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Didn't live up to expectations
dxt178
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I know there are a lot of negative "reviews" and "trolls" here, I want it to be clear that I have no axe to grind nor am I a fanboy of any one game. I used to be a game reviewer/freelance writer but have long since moved on to just enjoying games. I have played WoW and enjoyed it to some extent but ultimately grew tired of the end-game content and time needed. I have been following WAR since its inception and looking forward to release. I didn't play beta.
OK with that all out of the way my humble opinion based on my first day/night with it and my High Elf Swordmaster.
* The graphics are fairly bland. I have a high end system and everything is maxed, still environments are basic and unpolished and characters are very basic.
* Combat is similarly bland and unpolished. It feels slightly disconnected and weak.
* Quests are well done but some lack proper direction and can be confusing for no reason.
* Overall performance and play is just too generic feeling and plain to really draw the player into the action and story. If WAR was a bag of chips it would be the old style white bag with black letters just saying "Chips."
Unlike many negative "reviews" I do plan on sticking with it for at least the first month and hope it grows on me, but I have a feeling that the overall fit, finish, and polish of WoW just has this title beat in almost every respect. I just wish WoW had some of the positive ideas and aspects of WAR like the grouping and RvR. I still would not go back to WoW, but I don't think WAR is going to hold me as long as it managed to do and I don't think my time in WAR will be as rewarding. I hope to be wrong but fear I won't be.
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* The graphics are fairly bland. I have a high end system and everything is maxed, still environments are basic and unpolished and characters are very basic.
The graphics are really good. The artwork is fantastic and the enviourments can be breathtaking. So I don't know what you are talking about. Maby played to much crysis?
* Combat is similarly bland and unpolished. It feels slightly disconnected and weak.
Combat is good. It's just like any one of theese games. You can't say anything about it really. It's what it's always been. Only thing I irritate at is that healers are too good IMO and tanks have too much health. Or maby it's just cus I play the awful Engineer class that I just can't scratch my opponents.
* Quests are well done but some lack proper direction and can be confusing for no reason.
No, you always know where to go, the map tells you and the tracks are being tracked. If you find them confusing... I dont know how you ever got through one of theese games before
* Overall performance and play is just too generic feeling and plain to really draw the player into the action and story. If WAR was a bag of chips it would be the old style white bag with black letters just saying "Chips."
No that would be WoW. WAR at least has some Barbeque spice on them. More attitude, spark and rock'n'roll
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http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Sounds like the opinion of someone who tried to take yesterdays PvP bunny-hop tactics into WAR, and got their rear handed to them. Multiple times.
This is the most honest review of the game I have read so far in that I agree with it whole-heartedly. Time will tell but I couldn't even play through the OB without getting bored. Other MMOs forced me to get back on and play at any spare chance.
This one does not.
All valid points and I will add in that the chat system is horrible. No one ever talks in this game since instead of getting a zone wide chat we get every small area broken into a chat channel. Not to mention the chat window is ugly.
I'm also giving the game it's full month, but I don't see the game having much long term appeal. The PVP can be fun, but the game really seems to lack a "soul".
Like any review - its a personal opinion. SO most reviews are honest whether they like the game or not as the are the person reviewing's opinion.
Like any game - some will like it, some will hate it, some will grow to like it, some will grow to hate it.
Personally I cant wait to get home, get the kids tucked in bed so I can play.
Graphics - As long as they arent totally off puting I dont care. These are fine for me.
Public Quests - good fun, nice lot and healers can actually make a decent contribution and be recognized for it.
Tome of knowledge - nice lore, getting minor XP and tome unlocks for just wandering around doing stuff is nice as well.
Open Party system - Why doesnt everyone have this? Just look to see whos in your area, join the group start helping.
Scenarios - the couple I have played have been quick 15 minute things. So far I have only joined solo. Teams either know there role and its a fairly balanced 15 minute game, or one side has no idea and its a cake walk. And yes I have been walked over.
Getting different gear from questing, PvP, PQ influence rewards - nice. Encourages me to try different things to get some better gear so I dont die as much.
I like the way you get more and more abilities as you level so you learn your character and combat has more options. Found the reknown trainer last night so I was able to cash in the reknown points from PvP to up my abilities slightly.
Quests - Pull up the main map, a red area is marked on the map showing where you need to go. If you need to talk to someone these show up - so easy to find. Unless they are dead so sometimes you are hunting for them until you stumble over their corpse.
I like the way they use regular quests to guide you into the Public Quest areas.
I liked the tome giving you xp just for finding new things.
Dislikes - not enough chatting / strategy in PvP - lots of people rush in. I am guessing this will improve with time and guilds using voice chat.
Sounds like the opinion of someone who tried to take yesterdays PvP bunny-hop tactics into WAR, and got their rear handed to them. Multiple times.
Sounds like another fanboy refusing to see that these same issues, mainly the disconnected/bland combat have been brought up for the past few weeks on just about every forum dealing with this game. There are 20+ page threads from players that have been following this game for years on some of the same issues he brought up.
Accept that some people don't like it in its current state and stop thinking that WAR is some how more skill-based or tactical PvP.
Here comes the "i played for a few hours and it dissapointed me" threads.
Yeah levels 1-5 kinda suck, you dont have the skills to really play your character right.
Wait untill level 15ish, when you get enough skills to actually play your character right, everything will change and combat will become fun.
Also, as far as the graphics go, im just not seeing this "unpolished and basic looking enviroment"
I dont even have my setting maxed and it looks just fine, sure its not crysis, but it runs smooth. Also you might be confusing the gritty world with bland graphics, its not suppose to be a bright and happy looking enviroment.
So i suggest to the OP, play the game untill he hits level 15ish, do the RvR scenarios, try some open field RvR, if you still feel dissapointed, this game isnt for you then.
Bus seriously, you are not going to get your character's gameplay style "down" in a few hours, even a few days for that matter. Every character has his strengths and weaknesses, and has a bunch of skills to exploit them.
If you expect to click and spam the attack skill, and have your character preform as someone who uses all of their availible skills then your going to be dissapointed and bored with the gamplay, also youll get stomped in pvp.
This is the most honest review of the game I have read so far in that I agree with it whole-heartedly. Time will tell but I couldn't even play through the OB without getting bored. Other MMOs forced me to get back on and play at any spare chance.
This one does not.
Sadly, this is how I've felt about it too.
I've said several times that it's just missing something, but that I can't put my finger on QUITE what it is. The game isn't bad, it's okay, no...it's good. It just doesn't, I don't know, inspire me to crave playing it, or something.
Someone described it as not having a "soul." Maybe that's it. It is just missing some charm, or that almost magical draw that makes me want to log on the minute I get up in the morning, to play for a bit before my day starts.
But....I also plan on at least getting my 50 bucks worth out of it. Maybe within the next month, something in it will "grab" me. /shrug
Edit: I've only played up to level 14 and my RR 6 gear, so....maybe I just haven't given it enough of a chance, I don't know. But the whole time I have been playing, I kept asking myself, "is this the gameworld that I want to call "home." My answer so far....has been no.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
Honestly if you think that war's combat is too slow and the graphics are terrible, AoC should be right up your ally, im being serious not sarcastic.
All i know is this game got really addicting for me around level 11, and it was the RvR that did it for me, not everyone is going to like RvR, and if you didnt get addicted by it, its probably not going to be a game your going to like in the long run.
Conan would be perfect if it had content and a playerbase. But we all know that story.
I'm hitting 11 tommorow. The RVR seems cool so far, but there hasn't been much going on. It's usually just a bunch of us destruction running around and outnumbering Order. Since everyone is mostly sticking to scenarios and PVE for faster leveling I'm guessing RVR will be more popular and interesting around 40.
What game are you people playing?
I had to playt he game for a bit in low low rez mode, and it was kinda bland and disconnected, I upgraded my rig with new RAM and a 3850 card, and it's come alive for me.
Me thinks you played at a friends house.
Always change your signature.
Well, I didn't play at a friend's house, and my computer isn't a p.o.s. really....Core2Duo, 4G RAM, 8800GT...I mean, it's not today's LATEST machine, but it doesn't choke on ANY game I've put on it, and I don't usually play like oh...Myst, or anything.
See...people just have different opinions (to further beat this dead horse... /sigh). Not everyone is going to be "goo goo gah gah" over WAR. There will be people that just don't prefer it over other games. That doesn't mean it sucks. It just means it's not their "pick of the crop" or "pick of the litter."
I know...it's hard for people that adore the game to wrap their minds around this, but...it's just true.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
i dont mind the graphics at all...while polygon count could have been higher, i think they did a good job balancing between performance and quality. Its not the greatest graphics ever...but it is good for what it has set out to do.
I've always taken slight offense when people told me "Oh you only played to level 10? 15? 20? etc - well the game gets better you just have to play on to the good stuff!" -- That in itself shows me personally two things.
1 - Terrible Game Design. Games are supposed to be FUN FROM THE GET GO, that's why you play... not 'eat shit until the day you can have a cookie.'
2 - The people who keep playing games that really are no fun from level ? through ?? and KNOW they're not fun but drudge on have way too much time and way too little self respect, propelling and supporting another round of bad MMORPG's which clone their predecessors.
In all honesty I can't speak a word about what WAR is like because I haven't played it - and because of people I know in Beta whom I trust and respect the opinions of, I definately won't. While even I cancelled my Age of Conan account [at least for now until they get much more content] I think AoC has been the only MMORPG trying to be MORE than what's commonly referred to as the 'WoW Clone', which bring nothing new or exciting to the masses. AoC is still the most fun with an MMORPG I've had in a long damn time.... FROM level 1, up to about level 50. And THAT'S where it began to sag for me... not AT level 1.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
They probably limited the chat to areas because world wide chat can get bogged down with spammers and idiots. This way, if you ask a question, someone is more apt to assist you because they'll likely be dealing with something a bit more relevant in that area. Sure there is room for other area-unrelated questions but I hope you get my point.
And hmm... the chat window is ugly?!? That's interesting. I've never in my life not wanted to chat because the appearance of the chat window. It really has no bearing on whether I have a question that needs answering or feel like commenting on what someone else has already said. I hope this was a joke though because I think the UI is great. It's customizable without having to download a 3rd party mod and the chat window matches the rest of the UI stylistically.
That little text there, oh, and the fact you haven't actually played WAR (as you stated yourself) is basically what makes your conclusion rubbish.
I'm not saying everyone likes WAR, but it sure as hell isn't trying to be a WoW clone, and that is something you need to see for yourself, rather than listen to other people's opinions and take them for true (No matter how trustworthy the source). I'm not going to explain the differences between the two though, there's plenty of posts about that already.
But hey, if you don't want to try it, that's fine with me. But don't come here telling you know what's wrong with it.
They don't have an "easy" UI on general chat to avoid "My God, this isn't Wow or AoC or LOTRO quality". I bet my head on that.
They don't have any official forums either. Only the official non- official warhammeralliance forums which are guarded by types directly recruited and trained by FunCon - meaning the Gestapo types.
To Myhtic: TWO(!) way communications open up doors ! Yes, even in MMORPG's.
I do not know. I've enjoyed this game even in the levels 1-5, I think it does a good job of belnding yourself in, offering you a selection of things to do at all times.
* I find the graphics quite good, they keep the atmosphere of the IP perfectly intact and I love the details on those npcs armors. Yes the textures can be a bit fuzzy if you zoom in, but that is about it.
* If this combat is bland, then every other mmo's combat is as bland. Infact I would say Bland-er. The combat feels quite alive (I was worried about those comments of slow combat, but it does not seem the case here, to me at least). Yes, people do not die in two hits but that is a plus, not a minus in my book.
They have twinked with some mechanics for the various classes, trying to make them feel unique, maybe they did not succeed as much as they wanted, but the combat feels quite good anyhow.
* You are confused where to go? uh? how come? you open your map and there are these GIANTS red circles that tell you where to go! If you mouse over them they even tell you for what quest you are supposed to go there! How exactly can you get confused where to go??
* Really?? I mean what other games give you the story of the place you are in right off the bat? with some blurb about the special characters there and what is going on? What games gives you the public quests, that are a story on themselves, linked with the main one, that progresses as you play it?
I find this review puzzling. Yes, the first two points are subjective and as such it can just be the OP does not like those. But the third and fourth point seems fairly objective to me. Quests are highligted on the map and you get stories on about everything you encounter, thing no other MMOs ever did.
Maybe the OP can explain why he did not feel drawn in when all the game is designed to do just that? To what other experiences are you comparing this?
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
That red line must be the quote of the day.
Every War copy sold is free publicity for WotLK.
You know ... the original Elvis or The Beatles or whatever you'd call the original the masses have listened to.
I've always taken slight offense when people told me "Oh you only played to level 10? 15? 20? etc - well the game gets better you just have to play on to the good stuff!" -- That in itself shows me personally two things.
1 - Terrible Game Design. Games are supposed to be FUN FROM THE GET GO, that's why you play... not 'eat shit until the day you can have a cookie.'
2 - The people who keep playing games that really are no fun from level ? through ?? and KNOW they're not fun but drudge on have way too much time and way too little self respect, propelling and supporting another round of bad MMORPG's which clone their predecessors.
In all honesty I can't speak a word about what WAR is like because I haven't played it - and because of people I know in Beta whom I trust and respect the opinions of, I definately won't. While even I cancelled my Age of Conan account [at least for now until they get much more content] I think AoC has been the only MMORPG trying to be MORE than what's commonly referred to as the 'WoW Clone', which bring nothing new or exciting to the masses. AoC is still the most fun with an MMORPG I've had in a long damn time.... FROM level 1, up to about level 50. And THAT'S where it began to sag for me... not AT level 1.
I've always taken slight offense when people told me "Oh you only played to level 10? 15? 20? etc - well the game gets better you just have to play on to the good stuff!" -- That in itself shows me personally two things.
1 - Terrible Game Design. Games are supposed to be FUN FROM THE GET GO, that's why you play... not 'eat shit until the day you can have a cookie.'
2 - The people who keep playing games that really are no fun from level ? through ?? and KNOW they're not fun but drudge on have way too much time and way too little self respect, propelling and supporting another round of bad MMORPG's which clone their predecessors.
In all honesty I can't speak a word about what WAR is like because I haven't played it - and because of people I know in Beta whom I trust and respect the opinions of, I definately won't. While even I cancelled my Age of Conan account [at least for now until they get much more content] I think AoC has been the only MMORPG trying to be MORE than what's commonly referred to as the 'WoW Clone', which bring nothing new or exciting to the masses. AoC is still the most fun with an MMORPG I've had in a long damn time.... FROM level 1, up to about level 50. And THAT'S where it began to sag for me... not AT level 1.
QFT mate, I'm so fed up with fanbois on these forums saying 'Oh wait till you're lvl XX'. I played this game till lvl 15 in CB and the fun was sub-par.
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The thing i hate the most.. is review'ers who play a mmorpg game a single day, and place their review... lol, when u anyway gonna stick for a month, try give a review there instead...
But i am sure, that you need to have alittle bit of PvP person somewhere inside you, to fully enjoy and respect the game as it is.
And damn... i have never seen a game, run this smooth in first week of launch.. , well done Mythic.
WTF is up with graphic hatred around here?
Just open your godddamn eyes and compare it to WoW, if you managed to open your eyes you'll see that WAR has far better graphs than WoW! And still 10 M ppl play WoW?
They also didn't implent uber graphs because that wouldn't suit to the whole warhammer environment! Ever seen the tabletop game of warhammer? I think they really nailed the look of it. And I for one love it + if it the game doesn't require such a big graph card, more ppl can play it = MORE WAR
Now sit the hell down and enjoy the game, or leave and go play AoC with 0 % content, but at least you can go "ooh look at the landscape around me".
That red line must be the quote of the day.
Every War copy sold is free publicity for WotLK.
You know ... the original Elvis or The Beatles or whatever you'd call the original the masses have listened to.
Care to put some sense into your post? It's missing any and all.
EDIT: Nevermind, I just read some of your other posts, and you seem to be a Blizzard employee / Troll. "Sense" is non-existant to you.
That red line must be the quote of the day.
Every War copy sold is free publicity for WotLK.
You know ... the original Elvis or The Beatles or whatever you'd call the original the masses have listened to.
Care to put some sense into your post? It's missing any and all.
I'll explain it in 10 days. When everyone knows what it means.