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When I was a kid, we didn't have "Black History Month" ...I find the idea enlightening and welcomed it, but what would happen if we had a "White History Month?"
I thought it was cool when people started wearing "Black Pride" T-shirts. Great trend in clothing and all around innovative, but what if I wore a "White Pride" T-shirt?
That poll that was taken about Democrats not getting enough support for Obama because he was Black got me to thinking... link here http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93AIV882&show_article=1
What if they did that exact same poll and used only black participants, would they show any racism?
I think... if you ask most, they'll say the judge a person by their character, not skin color. It's time to stop thinking of yourself as a victim and start being a leader in your community. << I wonder who said that?
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A racist is someone who votes for an unqualified african-american over a better qualified woman
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A racist is someone who does things based upon a persons colour. It's generally assumed racists are White and because of this we're allowed 'black pride' etc. In reality Whites suffer from more racist remarks and racist inuendo than blacks.
If you can have 'Black pride', there should be a 'White pride', a 'yellow pride' etc. There's far too much PC crap over racism. So much so that it's gone totally in the other direction. It's now ok to be racist against whites.
www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23557601-details/Race+revolt+hits+the+Yard/article.do
A clear example of blacks pulling the racism card.
"Metropolitan Black Police Association" ?- Clearly a racist organization if there is not a White alternative.
I'm not racist myself, I'm for equallity, but equallity doesn't mean one colour gets an organisation and the others don't.
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Id just love to see all the people freaking out if we suddenly had a White Histery month and a WET "White Entertainment Telavision" Country or Rock singgers started sinning about White power and we had Large marches on D.C. To Discourage the marrining of your sister, and to stop Beating your Wife, Oh and Equale Oppertunity to be Enroled in Schools and Hired at Jobs. And Cracker was suddnely the Real equivelent of the "N"word. In Todays Political Enviroment people would have a heart attack.
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What you have to realize is that African Americans are a distinct cultural group with a shared history. Things celebrating cultural groups are not uncommon. There is, for instance, apparently an Irish American Heritage Month.
As for white Americans, anything that says "American" with no prefix is generally assumed to be about white Americans. That alone should tell you something.
I think just about everyone wants racism to end completely, but you can't just ignore context and history. Fact is, the black race and white race in America are not equivalent. We want them to be, but there are a good number of people alive today who remember when they weren't equal under the law in some parts of the country. Ignoring a problem and pretending it never existed is rarely the best way to solve it.
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I thought that was a sexist?
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I thought that was a sexist?
Nah, that's the standard misinterpretation. When you pick someone BECAUSE they are african american, that's racist. When you pick a dude BECAUSE you don't want to pick a woman, that's sexist. The democratic party did the former. Racism trumped sexism; as it often does among the left.
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Someone who believes themselves supierior to another race.
Most popular reasons (KKK, Nazis, the thousands of Aryan groups) who use Charles Darwins theories as an excuse to force the "lesser" races (in the nazis case every one not born in germany) to accept a evolutionary pecking order for mankind.
There are different degrees of racism also, from those that lack all forms of human campasion who believe that *#&^ to the ones who still have compasion but they just choose to believe it anyways. For instance the few (there were a few, not many) Nazi soldiers (yes, soldiers) who helped the Jews hide and escape from Hitler. They believed all the hate put out, they just didnt agree with all the end solutions of dealing with "their problems".
Its just using science to further mans ambition. Like the nuclear bomb.
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I thought that was a sexist?
Nah, that's the standard misinterpretation. When you pick someone BECAUSE they are african american, that's racist. When you pick a dude BECAUSE you don't want to pick a woman, that's sexist. The democratic party did the former. Racism trumped sexism; as it often does among the left.
Oh, and obviously EVERY democrat voted for Obama because he was black. Don't make ridiculous assumptions, you look like an ass.
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I thought that was a sexist?
Nah, that's the standard misinterpretation. When you pick someone BECAUSE they are african american, that's racist. When you pick a dude BECAUSE you don't want to pick a woman, that's sexist. The democratic party did the former. Racism trumped sexism; as it often does among the left.
Oh, and obviously EVERY democrat voted for Obama because he was black. Don't make ridiculous assumptions, you look like an ass.
I didn't say that. Don't make ridiculous assumptions yourself; you look like -- well, I'm also nicer than you.
When someone says "the democratic party" did something, they don't usually mean that every member did that. In fact, I've never seen anything of the sort said by anyone.
You are free of course to think differently than me, and believe that Barack Obama's great legislative history, his great speaking abilty with a teleprompter, all his great work as an organizer for ACORN and his great work as a law professor is what tipped the scales for him, but I'm sorry I disagree. No reason to resort to personal attacks though.
Once again, we see the charming nature of Mr. Obama's supporters. thanks for demonstrating that for the folks.
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I thought Hillary won the popular vote :P
(of course Gore can tell you that one doesnt matter)
I personally dont like black history month, i find it to be pointless, taking 28 days out of the year to force yourself to remember the accomplishments of your race is silly.
Other then that, this discussion about seeng what other people concider racist, and now sexist i guess is interesting, some people have a skewed thought process.
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I don't know. I got called Osama a few weeks into boot camp. Yep, same fucking uniform on our backs, and some guy couldn't resist. No, it wasn't a joke. He got pissed, and that was the word that came out of his mouth. He really meant it. I was one of them. Isolated case. A few DI's on a training course thought it was hilarious that they thought I looked exactly like another guy. Take a guess what our only physical similarity was? Those were the only DI's like that, though. Slurs in elementary (mostly minor) and high school (little bit worse). "Go back to Iraq, so we can bomb your ass." I'm not even from Iraq. That was only one kid and his friends, though. I did some pretty rigorous martial arts in school, so I wasn't a wimp, but I was never quite sure whether those guys would take it a step further. I was a little afraid simply because of numbers. It pretty rarely crossed my mind when they weren't around, but I always wondered that when they were nearby. I went to school in a city which has among the highest concentration of my ethnicity in the country, too, so I had it ten times easier than most on these issues.
I get at least one hateful stare every month. You're probably wondering how I know. Oh, you know. It's not hard to mistake it when somebody looks at you and your blood runs cold, and every part of their face and body language screams, "You don't belong here. Get out of my country. It's mine, not yours." I don't really blame them, as this kind of attitude is still pretty commonly taught to American kids. Immigrants are lazy leeches, and if you could get rid of them, you would fix all problems in this country, etc. Even when my family was doing really badly, when my parents separated and my mom lost her job, and the three of us were living in a studio, we never took a cent of welfare money from the government. Oh, I got free lunches, I guess. That probably enrages some of you, though. Anyway, it's rare enough that I don't care, to be honest. Still, I'd say that when a white person gets mad at me in public, there is a 1/5 chance they will use a racial slur. I'm actually being very conservative with that estimate.
Yeah, I was born here and have lived here for most of my life here. I've competed in statewide drama competitions and won, and I've done public speaking on and off. I consistently scored near perfect on the English section of the SAT when I took it. So yeah, I can speak clearly and without an accent. Most of the girls I know consider me good-looking. I keep up on domestic issues more than anybody else I know. I enlisted at nineteen. I'm not even black or latino.
I had all of that going for me, and I still encountered the stuff above. If I was black or latino or had an accent, it would be fifty times worse, without exaggeration. If I was black or latino, I would also have the benefit of then hearing some white people say that whites have it worse than blacks because of reverse racism. Hahahahaha. Amazing. I understand what they (blacks and latinos) go through, though.
See, it's not bad for me in the US, but I've actually lived in countries where there was real racism against people of my ethnicity. In Kuwait, most of my kind are domestic help. So that's what kids looked at me as, when I was going to school there for a few years, since my dad was an expatriate there. They don't even realize it, but I could feel their attitude, just hanging around them. It's the same way many whites don't hide what they think of blacks, even when they think they're not showing it at all.
Anyway, let me explain why most people are afraid of "white pride" and white associations. First of all, it's because there are still many people alive today who saw atrocities committed under those banners.
Second, white isn't an ethnicity. Start a group celebrating German, British, Irish, or French culture, or anything else which will probably be almost all white. Nobody will care. Start a group celebrating American culture. Even that will be mostly white. If you are so prideful of your culture, have you bothered to trace back your roots? Have you bothered to celebrate the traditions of your forefathers who came to this country? I have. I know plenty of whites have too. I like it when they do. Good eats at those restaurants and on those occasions.
What is "white" pride, though? Would that be only related to skin color?
Blacks are a unique ethnic group. They're a minority who have had to stick together and develop their own culture because they were on the defensive for their first two-hundred years in this country.
Third, whites are the plurality, even now. Most black community groups are an attempt to help compensate for systemic bias and low socioeconomic status. What would white community groups do? Ensure whites retain a disproportionate amount of political and economic power?
Finally, your "stop being a victim" comment. [Yeah, I know who originally said it. I say your comment because you repeated it.] You've started a bunch of threads on this topic. I've never mentioned racism until now, unless somebody else started talking about it. I just try to live myself. You come here and complain about how whites have it so bad. So who's being a victim, again?
My opinion is this:
If our society cannot handle a White History month, a white pride day, etc, etc then they need to get rid of all "race related celebrated holidays."
I see why they created it because everything that was black was supressed. We need to stop living in the past and time to move forward in time. Ive dealt with racism myself for a little bit so i know what it feels like. I went to the University of Maryland Eastern Shore Campus for just one semester. In was back in 1992 (same year as the LA riots).
Let me tell you something. I was harassed, threatened and belittled because I was white. Many people at that college hated me even more because I went for free on a minority scholarship (for being white). They even paid for my books. I was there for just a semester.
So, who knows. While I would like to think the US is ready for equality I dont think they are. If we got rid of black pride or black month, we would have riots. If we had white pride or white month, we would be branded as racists.
Its just one of those evils that were created from practices of earlier evils.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Second, white isn't an ethnicity. Start a group celebrating German, British, Irish, or French culture, or anything else which will probably be almost all white.
Just a moment, by that logic, black isn't an ethnicity either as you can divide it up into Nigerian, tanzanian, Sudanese, Ethopian, so on and so forth.
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watermelon
fried chicken
collard greens
are foods i enjoy.
racism or stereotype, did i blur the line? cross it?
what line, is the question we should be asking.
there was a post about 2 watermelon seeds here a while back, news article. an older black man found the black watermelon seed(there was a white one too)racially insensitive or something.
and lets not forget the 'black hole' gaff made by a councilman.
there are people that make their entire fortunes, making sure racism does not go away.
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God bless America, it's time to make changes, either black or female.
One or the other is going to be a first!
Wrong. YOU are promoting racism. YOU choose not to include blacks in those 11 months. YOU choose to believe they are all about whites. In those 11 months blacks are not excluded. Skin colour is ignored, yet you feel blacks deserve one month a year just because of their skin colour.
Racism is here and will be here for as long as people refer to, and think about a persons skin colour. These days the anti racist groups do more to keep the racism going than anyone else.
A few posts back someone posted about how baddly they are treated by whites. Well a while ago I went into a cafe to get lunch and they ordered me out because I was white. They refused to serve me because of my skin colour. Now I didn't just assume that was the reason, which is what many blacks do. They actually said " Get out, we dont serve your type here. Go back to your whitey friends".
Many times the racism is created by the person believing they are the victim of it. They are sure they saw a racist look. They are sure it was because of their skin colour they didn't get the job etc. THEY are creating the racism by assumptions.
Racism happens both ways and until we can stand up as bigger people and refuse to participate, then it will continue. Thats BOTH sides, not just whites. We need to get rid of all these racist organisations like "black ****" and get on with being friends.
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I learn white history all the time, no need for it. Black History Month isn't somthing that was just pulled out of the ass to show any type of segeration or diffrence. I'm sure (even myself) many people learn possibly more history on white americans than black americans. Also how there is no need for White Entertainment Television. I flip channels and see a (VERY) highy majority on every channel.
But you know I mean Enigma your maybe like at least 15+ years older than me. I'm sure you have had a very diffrent experience than I have.
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I don't know. I got called Osama a few weeks into boot camp. Yep, same fucking uniform on our backs, and some guy couldn't resist. No, it wasn't a joke. He got pissed, and that was the word that came out of his mouth. He really meant it. I was one of them. Isolated case. A few DI's on a training course thought it was hilarious that they thought I looked exactly like another guy. Take a guess what our only physical similarity was? Those were the only DI's like that, though. Slurs in elementary (mostly minor) and high school (little bit worse). "Go back to Iraq, so we can bomb your ass." I'm not even from Iraq. That was only one kid and his friends, though. I did some pretty rigorous martial arts in school, so I wasn't a wimp, but I was never quite sure whether those guys would take it a step further. I was a little afraid simply because of numbers. It pretty rarely crossed my mind when they weren't around, but I always wondered that when they were nearby. I went to school in a city which has among the highest concentration of my ethnicity in the country, too, so I had it ten times easier than most on these issues.
I get at least one hateful stare every month. You're probably wondering how I know. Oh, you know. It's not hard to mistake it when somebody looks at you and your blood runs cold, and every part of their face and body language screams, "You don't belong here. Get out of my country. It's mine, not yours." I don't really blame them, as this kind of attitude is still pretty commonly taught to American kids. Immigrants are lazy leeches, and if you could get rid of them, you would fix all problems in this country, etc. Even when my family was doing really badly, when my parents separated and my mom lost her job, and the three of us were living in a studio, we never took a cent of welfare money from the government. Oh, I got free lunches, I guess. That probably enrages some of you, though. Anyway, it's rare enough that I don't care, to be honest. Still, I'd say that when a white person gets mad at me in public, there is a 1/5 chance they will use a racial slur. I'm actually being very conservative with that estimate.
Yeah, I was born here and have lived here for most of my life here. I've competed in statewide drama competitions and won, and I've done public speaking on and off. I consistently scored near perfect on the English section of the SAT when I took it. So yeah, I can speak clearly and without an accent. Most of the girls I know consider me good-looking. I keep up on domestic issues more than anybody else I know. I enlisted at nineteen. I'm not even black or latino.
I had all of that going for me, and I still encountered the stuff above. If I was black or latino or had an accent, it would be fifty times worse, without exaggeration. If I was black or latino, I would also have the benefit of then hearing some white people say that whites have it worse than blacks because of reverse racism. Hahahahaha. Amazing. I understand what they (blacks and latinos) go through, though.
See, it's not bad for me in the US, but I've actually lived in countries where there was real racism against people of my ethnicity. In Kuwait, most of my kind are domestic help. So that's what kids looked at me as, when I was going to school there for a few years, since my dad was an expatriate there. They don't even realize it, but I could feel their attitude, just hanging around them. It's the same way many whites don't hide what they think of blacks, even when they think they're not showing it at all.
Anyway, let me explain why most people are afraid of "white pride" and white associations. First of all, it's because there are still many people alive today who saw atrocities committed under those banners.
Second, white isn't an ethnicity. Start a group celebrating German, British, Irish, or French culture, or anything else which will probably be almost all white. Nobody will care. Start a group celebrating American culture. Even that will be mostly white. If you are so prideful of your culture, have you bothered to trace back your roots? Have you bothered to celebrate the traditions of your forefathers who came to this country? I have. I know plenty of whites have too. I like it when they do. Good eats at those restaurants and on those occasions.
What is "white" pride, though? Would that be only related to skin color?
Blacks are a unique ethnic group. They're a minority who have had to stick together and develop their own culture because they were on the defensive for their first two-hundred years in this country.
Third, whites are the plurality, even now. Most black community groups are an attempt to help compensate for systemic bias and low socioeconomic status. What would white community groups do? Ensure whites retain a disproportionate amount of political and economic power?
Finally, your "stop being a victim" comment. [Yeah, I know who originally said it. I say your comment because you repeated it.] You've started a bunch of threads on this topic. I've never mentioned racism until now, unless somebody else started talking about it. I just try to live myself. You come here and complain about how whites have it so bad. So who's being a victim, again?
Thats a good piece of writing. well done and thanks.
Racism is simply acting differently to people on the basis of their race. We all react differently to people on the basis of their race. The best we can ever do is to try and not let our emotional responses damage our opportunities.
There are core problems, someone of a different race may have significantly different social values. Should we respect those values? should we respect their right to hold a different view? If they are a citizen in our democracy should the government support their opportunity to express those social differences? Does an extensive history of repressing and punishing a races social values and social pride deserve consideration? Does someone who has faced a continued loss of opportunity on the basis of race deserve some help? Is the child of someone who has faced a continued loss of opportunity on the basis of race deserving of some help?
It is not a simple issue.
racism is discrimination against someone else because of where they are from.
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I learn white history all the time, no need for it. Black History Month isn't somthing that was just pulled out of the ass to show any type of segeration or diffrence. I'm sure (even myself) many people learn possibly more history on white americans than black americans. Also how there is no need for White Entertainment Television. I flip channels and see a (VERY) highy majority on every channel.
But you know I mean Enigma your maybe like at least 15+ years older than me. I'm sure you have had a very diffrent experience than I have.
You live in America...therefore white history is much, much more pertinent than black history.
To sum up black history: Inner-continental war, inner-continental war, inner-continental slavery, inner-continental slavery, europeans have an interest in our natural resources, we like the white man's guns and they buy our rival's pow's, oh no the middle passage, we don't get any wages, that sucks, the north won, wages rule, mlk, rodney king, i believe i should get a job based on my skin color rather than qualifications, form equal opportunity, reverse racism.
In short: You don't hear much about African history because they didn't write shit down and Europeans played a very, very large role in Africa's past, excluding the hundreds of years of inner-continental tribe wars prior to the Europeans' arrival.
Black history month is perpetuating racism, and glorifying a past that has little to do with the development of America's history.
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Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination.
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Also, the reason you don't see "white entertainment networks" or "white pride day" is mainly because Whites are the dominate race / ethnic group in the U.S. Everything is more or less geared toward them by default. All other ethnic groups are typically expected to conform to the dominate culture historically speaking and the U.S. is no exception.