yeah the game would be better without stealth, doesn't matter now does it? when i go against destro i see nothing but WE attacking everyone, its like destro doesnt have any other classes to play or something.
Excellent. The WE is the easiest class to kill in this game, and the more of them they field the more they gimp themselves.
"You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."
It's imfuckingpossible to play a BW in T3 with all of these faggotty-ass rogues group ganking. There is not a single thing in this world that can save you. Root is worthless because they can break it and do everytime. Healers either A) don't heal because they're retarded or can't help anyways because the damage is way too high. It's really killing PvP. It's getting old running out to a fight just to get ganked by the same 2 idiots in stealth and running back. Oh look, BW, free kills.
I just got a little wood on from reading this. You can die to stealthers until you quit the game. In fact, I -really- hope your imbalanced ass gets Vundo or something, and your PC just craps out entirely.
I play a Chosen, and let me tell you, unless I'm using a two hander, those faggoty, imbalanced, POS Bright Wizards do NOT die in a 1v1. I'm glad you're getting a little up your ass from -something- at least, considering that fricken godlike tanks cant take you out.
Glad to see this class is finally getting some ownage slammed into their faces a few times. Lets hope that in addition to crying (and thus giving me wood), they will also quit the game. If I never see another BW, it would be a good day.
But hey, if you really are that upset about it, just reroll another BW - its not like you have to worry about fucking ANYTHING except an entire team ganking you in Tier 1 and 2 - you have homo-root, healers who can keep you up, and most importantly, DoTs that blow away the fucking red-headed stepchild of Chaos - the Magus.
Yeah, end rant.
I actually have no problems taking out BW's with a 1-h and shield assuming I can get close to them. More often than not that doesnt happen though. Even with juggernaut Chain firecages suck balls untill they get the roots fixed.
The funniest part is I see people bitching about tanks being OP. They are far from it. Anyway I'm sure that WH is whining and crying about nerfing Chosen after tonight. Even with his stealth and getting the jump on me I wiped the floor with him. His WP buddy showed up alittle to late to save him but sure made short work of me. Nerf WP's? Nah. Calling nerf because one class destroy's me while I destroy another class is for crybabies.
I'm not trying to derail here (this thread is too sexy), but you are absolutely right. That's what I meant in that rage post of mine. BWs eat Chosen, and there isnt anything we can do about it. The resist aura doesnt help TOO much, it just delays the inevitable death that is coming, and that Aura that damages anyone casting on us does far too little damage to be effective.
Maybe using Hold The Line would help, but that would mean we would run in, hit, HTL, pray the BW uses his root at that very second. If he doesnt, we are just wasting DPS and AP.
As for WH, I agree. That is the one class I havent had a problem with (above Tier 1) with my Chosen. We do just enough damage to kill them, and it SHOULD be suicidal for a WH to attack a walking armor factory.
As for WPs, I find them to be a little bit powerful, but that's really the way they were designed to be. The Empire doesnt really have a tank, and the WP cant tank so much as run around and heal themselves. I've cried about WPs in the past, but after seeing them after so many levels, they arent -that- bad.
BW, however, are simply fucking insane. You cant melee them as a tank, and you cant outdamage them as a Magus. Its just an insane situation. I'm fairly certain that they fear Marauders, but I dont know. Maybe they just root them and laugh while they nuke them down.
As a archmage, Ive problems with witches. I can stand in the middle of my raid, a witch can easily stealth to me and kill me with 2 hits
Wrong. I play a WE. I can't kill anyone in 2 hits. I can kill you fast, but not in 2 hits. In Tier 1, I would kill you for sure because everyone was on their own mostly. But in Tier 2, I always see 2 healers together and I "try" anyways to kill one of you, and I often fail, and more and more I am being detected. And one of our mastery paths makes it so we can reduce healing done by 75%. Of course I am going to attack weak healers, and then when you try to heal yourself its reduced by 75%. (Granted I don't have that skill yet, but it is one, I have 45% I think right now).
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Originally posted by Scalebane
yeah the game would be better without stealth, doesn't matter now does it? when i go against destro i see nothing but WE attacking everyone, its like destro doesnt have any other classes to play or something.
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Wrong. When I scenerio I see 2-3 WE's at most. So on average 2 people are WE's. Actually WEs are one of the lesser played classes. We are very easy to kill, I don't get you people. In lower Tiers sure we can stealth unnoticed and kill someone fast, but after we "maybe" kill one person we can die in a matter of seconds if a few people attack us. We're strategic killers of squishies and healers, its what we do. I just run from tanks, I don't even try to waste my time.
Oh and to the topic of the OP, no. It was a rumour started by trolls that there would be no stealth although we told them time again that indeed there is a form of stealth in game and they should stop lying and check their facts. But it seems that didn't work.
Mark Jacobs dated April 7 3:14pm:
"I'll comment more when appropriate on this issue but for now what I'm willing to say is simply this. The stealth that we had in DAoC or that can be found in WoW and/or other games is not in WAR now and I still have no intention of allowing it into the game."
So stop lying and check your facts Sober_Sean.
To the OP, sounds like they introduced stealth/ambush which is something they said they wouldn't. The stealth in WAR was supposed to allow squishies to get up close without getting hurt but not allow them to ambush players.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
As a archmage, Ive problems with witches. I can stand in the middle of my raid, a witch can easily stealth to me and kill me with 2 hits
Wrong. I play a WE. I can't kill anyone in 2 hits. I can kill you fast, but not in 2 hits. In Tier 1, I would kill you for sure because everyone was on their own mostly. But in Tier 2, I always see 2 healers together and I "try" anyways to kill one of you, and I often fail, and more and more I am being detected. And one of our mastery paths makes it so we can reduce healing done by 75%. Of course I am going to attack weak healers, and then when you try to heal yourself its reduced by 75%. (Granted I don't have that skill yet, but it is one, I have 45% I think right now).
Wrong. Yesterday a WE killed me and two other light gear wearer (standing in a 12men raid) until he finally died.
Us Magus have a really nice morale skill that lowers int by 45 and drops your AP to 0.
I use this usually on healers to completely gimo them but if I am against a bright ( I own them btw due to my magic resists I cashed my pvp points in for ) I use it as well.
They at that point try to run away.
BTW as a Magus I always get healed.. know why? because I drop my pet down and bodyguard the hell out of a healer.
I range kill things and if anyone is on my healer I will root them then dot the hell out of them and add in a 50% slow just to be funny. I cant wait until I get the huge AOE pull where I can suck everyone in a area into a single little spot then make them stunned for 2 seconds. That may not seem like alot but its a AOE'ers dream to have 15 guys all in a 2 foot area stunned for a few seconds to root or abuse lol :P
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I'm tickled pink that the class that dominated Tier 2 is complaining because they don't dominate Tier 3 as well.
Tier 3 is going to be a fun place.
And I'm a Black Orc, so I don't really care about this stealth nonsense.
As a archmage, Ive problems with witches. I can stand in the middle of my raid, a witch can easily stealth to me and kill me with 2 hits
Excellent. The WE is the easiest class to kill in this game, and the more of them they field the more they gimp themselves.
"You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."
I just got a little wood on from reading this. You can die to stealthers until you quit the game. In fact, I -really- hope your imbalanced ass gets Vundo or something, and your PC just craps out entirely.
I play a Chosen, and let me tell you, unless I'm using a two hander, those faggoty, imbalanced, POS Bright Wizards do NOT die in a 1v1. I'm glad you're getting a little up your ass from -something- at least, considering that fricken godlike tanks cant take you out.
Glad to see this class is finally getting some ownage slammed into their faces a few times. Lets hope that in addition to crying (and thus giving me wood), they will also quit the game. If I never see another BW, it would be a good day.
But hey, if you really are that upset about it, just reroll another BW - its not like you have to worry about fucking ANYTHING except an entire team ganking you in Tier 1 and 2 - you have homo-root, healers who can keep you up, and most importantly, DoTs that blow away the fucking red-headed stepchild of Chaos - the Magus.
Yeah, end rant.
I actually have no problems taking out BW's with a 1-h and shield assuming I can get close to them. More often than not that doesnt happen though. Even with juggernaut Chain firecages suck balls untill they get the roots fixed.
The funniest part is I see people bitching about tanks being OP. They are far from it. Anyway I'm sure that WH is whining and crying about nerfing Chosen after tonight. Even with his stealth and getting the jump on me I wiped the floor with him. His WP buddy showed up alittle to late to save him but sure made short work of me. Nerf WP's? Nah. Calling nerf because one class destroy's me while I destroy another class is for crybabies.
I'm not trying to derail here (this thread is too sexy), but you are absolutely right. That's what I meant in that rage post of mine. BWs eat Chosen, and there isnt anything we can do about it. The resist aura doesnt help TOO much, it just delays the inevitable death that is coming, and that Aura that damages anyone casting on us does far too little damage to be effective.
Maybe using Hold The Line would help, but that would mean we would run in, hit, HTL, pray the BW uses his root at that very second. If he doesnt, we are just wasting DPS and AP.
As for WH, I agree. That is the one class I havent had a problem with (above Tier 1) with my Chosen. We do just enough damage to kill them, and it SHOULD be suicidal for a WH to attack a walking armor factory.
As for WPs, I find them to be a little bit powerful, but that's really the way they were designed to be. The Empire doesnt really have a tank, and the WP cant tank so much as run around and heal themselves. I've cried about WPs in the past, but after seeing them after so many levels, they arent -that- bad.
BW, however, are simply fucking insane. You cant melee them as a tank, and you cant outdamage them as a Magus. Its just an insane situation. I'm fairly certain that they fear Marauders, but I dont know. Maybe they just root them and laugh while they nuke them down.
Its still stealth and you can easy kill a wounded in 10 sek. They lied
Wrong. I play a WE. I can't kill anyone in 2 hits. I can kill you fast, but not in 2 hits. In Tier 1, I would kill you for sure because everyone was on their own mostly. But in Tier 2, I always see 2 healers together and I "try" anyways to kill one of you, and I often fail, and more and more I am being detected. And one of our mastery paths makes it so we can reduce healing done by 75%. Of course I am going to attack weak healers, and then when you try to heal yourself its reduced by 75%. (Granted I don't have that skill yet, but it is one, I have 45% I think right now).
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Originally posted by Scalebane
yeah the game would be better without stealth, doesn't matter now does it? when i go against destro i see nothing but WE attacking everyone, its like destro doesnt have any other classes to play or something.
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Wrong. When I scenerio I see 2-3 WE's at most. So on average 2 people are WE's. Actually WEs are one of the lesser played classes. We are very easy to kill, I don't get you people. In lower Tiers sure we can stealth unnoticed and kill someone fast, but after we "maybe" kill one person we can die in a matter of seconds if a few people attack us. We're strategic killers of squishies and healers, its what we do. I just run from tanks, I don't even try to waste my time.
Amazing how all the whines are exactly the same as the whines were in DAoC...
WAR = DAoC 2
Players running a buff bot in WAR as well now?
Be paid for Beta Testing, don't pay to Beta Test.
Mark Jacobs dated April 7 3:14pm:
"I'll comment more when appropriate on this issue but for now what I'm willing to say is simply this. The stealth that we had in DAoC or that can be found in WoW and/or other games is not in WAR now and I still have no intention of allowing it into the game."
So stop lying and check your facts Sober_Sean.
To the OP, sounds like they introduced stealth/ambush which is something they said they wouldn't. The stealth in WAR was supposed to allow squishies to get up close without getting hurt but not allow them to ambush players.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
Wrong. I play a WE. I can't kill anyone in 2 hits. I can kill you fast, but not in 2 hits. In Tier 1, I would kill you for sure because everyone was on their own mostly. But in Tier 2, I always see 2 healers together and I "try" anyways to kill one of you, and I often fail, and more and more I am being detected. And one of our mastery paths makes it so we can reduce healing done by 75%. Of course I am going to attack weak healers, and then when you try to heal yourself its reduced by 75%. (Granted I don't have that skill yet, but it is one, I have 45% I think right now).
Wrong. Yesterday a WE killed me and two other light gear wearer (standing in a 12men raid) until he finally died.
Us Magus have a really nice morale skill that lowers int by 45 and drops your AP to 0.
I use this usually on healers to completely gimo them but if I am against a bright ( I own them btw due to my magic resists I cashed my pvp points in for ) I use it as well.
They at that point try to run away.
BTW as a Magus I always get healed.. know why? because I drop my pet down and bodyguard the hell out of a healer.
I range kill things and if anyone is on my healer I will root them then dot the hell out of them and add in a 50% slow just to be funny. I cant wait until I get the huge AOE pull where I can suck everyone in a area into a single little spot then make them stunned for 2 seconds. That may not seem like alot but its a AOE'ers dream to have 15 guys all in a 2 foot area stunned for a few seconds to root or abuse lol :P