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I've been running through the trial for a few days and thus far really like the crafting and diplomacy components, there seems to be a real depth there that I've definitely been missing in other games. My question is, before I sub, what happens past the trial island? Does this continue and grow or does it become useless and/or same-old, same-old as you go up in levels? How far can you level up the two w/o leveling up on the pve side? (I have nothing against pve, but as a former high-level WoW raider it'd be nice to know that there's another endgame besides that ).
Thanks!
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Crafting and diplomacy can be completely leveled independent of adventuring.
Crafting continues to grow along the same lines with some quests and growing complexity in the crafting process.
Diplomacy starts to thin out on quests although they are adding. You get into civic diplo but they have added more stuff I'm not completely upto. So yeah diplo continues to evolve and grow.
I think now that they have fixed some of the fundamentals, bugs, performance, etc that we will see them adding some more content faster they in the past.
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PvE is the "easiest" part tbh. If you like both, diplo and crafting you most probably will end up in leveling them all three in a balanced way. Once you get bored by something you can change to a different sphere. All players who play 3 spheres do it like that.
The endgame of crafting is to get all upgrade recipes you want. I am a rather low level diplomat, but i think the diplo endgame is to have enough presence to talk to every available NPC. And there is raid crafting, diplomacy and adventuring ofc. All three spheres have their own item progression.
Its not a requirement, but its convenient to have your adventurer level around your crafter level. That makes harvesting of your own raws easier. If you plan to craft your own weapons or armor it a good idea to keep your crafter level ~10 levels ahead of your adventurer level.
You asked how far you can go with just one sphere independently. Well the answer is. You can be level 50 diplomat level 50 crafter and level 1 adventurer. Crafting quests are usually consisted of traveling & crafting (no fightning, no random drops from mobs or anything). Diplomacy is as well consisted mainly of traveling and the actual diplomacy mini-game. No fightning at all. But as was stated here already, probably best and most fun is to keep them all equal.
I cant comment on Crafting as I have not really done much (25th Leatherworker).
Diplomacy has a lot of quests for cards in all the newbie areas and a few quests here and there around the world. There is definately more work needed here.
I have noticed the 3 recommended areas from IoD have had yet more revamp with tons more quests (if there wasn't enough already) so plenty of stuff to do till at least 20th.
Currently 44th level diplomat and most of my time is spent grinding Civil diplomacy (by choice) as I am after all 9 civic titles (3 in each continent) and the amazing reward at the end of it.
There are also writ to get (diplomacy head gear) and of course the Thestra Tax collection system.
Plenty to do, not all of it quest driven.
Adventure wise, like I said upto 20th level there is tons to do, after that its a little more thin quest wise but people tend to do dungeon crawls.
Misthaven or Hilsbury Manor (unrest for anyone who remembers EQ1) is just amazing, simple brilliant dungeon crawls.
22-30 you have Ruins of Trengal keep, which is full of orcs and flying drakes, breath taking place at times.
30-40 you have Ruins of Vol Tuniel and the armour quests with the elves, after 40th its Greystone keep for the weapons and finally armour sets til 50th.
Tons of quests and loot all the way, and that is ONE continent I am describing.
Qalia has a lot of 50th group stuff, there is APW for raiding on Thestra and another group & raid dungeon for Qalia soon.
So much to do... not all of it perfect but definately fun.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
Is there a Trial to test this game? If yes where can I register/download it and for how long could I play...Also I want to know if you need a credit card to play the Trial (like WoW) or not (like Lotro)..
There is a great free trial that was just recently released. It lets you get a taste of Vanguard and is a lot of fun. I worked through it on my new character.
LINK (you can find the download here for starters)
vgplayers.station.sony.com/
Great, thanks for all of the info!
I definitely think I'll be signing up when my trial ends (and I'm finally done ripping out drywall and repairing the house from the flood we got hit with a couple weeks ago). At worst it seems like this will be a great diversion while I wait for WotLK (though I'm sick to death of WoW, I loved all of the original Warcraft games especially the Frozen Throne expansion so I don't think I'm going to want to miss the continuation of that storyline), at best maybe this is the game I've been looking for for the past couple years!
Thanks again for the help!
If you like the game mechanics of crafting, diplomacy etc... they stay the same. The game gets much, much, much bigger beyond IoD and will be progressively more difficult. Welcome aboard