They have a publisher...but the publisher has never done software video games before. They usually restribute VHS/DVD movies in the greek language http://www.imdb.com/company/co0006126/
That doesn't mean shit, AVE is their distributor. They just burn CDs. Seriously people when any other game is about to launch do you check their distributor's business history? You're clutching to a straw, a old one. It's clear that Aventurine have to launch the game this year or atleast start a beta otherwise it will be a complete business suicide after so much hype. In what state it will deliver, is the hot discussion now.
The reason you don't see Darkfall in Gamestop, or any other stores, simply because this sort of "niche" game don't appeal to the mainstream gamers. If it's not the same old WoW/WAR/EQ game, why take the chances of advertising it in your store. Once beta is announced, and officially starts, you can bet this game will find it's way into the mainstream market. Adventurine isn't really advertising the game, and I like it that way. Give it six more months, and you'll see Darkfall's Poster replacing WoWLK's. ---IMO---
Eh, guess it's because I'm from the states. I'm not clear here, but I'm fairly positive they haven't found a NA publisher, just the EU. So until they get a NA publisher, I don't see gamestop knowing about Darkfall. Every Gamestop or Store dedicated to Games only, has no idea what DFO is. Everyone I've went to, I say, "Hey man, You heard of Darkfall Online?". I get the same answer everytime, Nope. I then precede listing features and they begin to drool. I think I've showed the gameplay video to about 8 of my friends, all who were drooling over it, so 120k is maybe an understatement. I mean, granted others are doing the same thing I am.
Which also reminds me, I forgot to add this to my last post. Darkfall has stated they want the NA & EU launches to be simoltaneous.Tasos clearly stating they won't compromise the vision they have to any extent. I think the next big news announced from DFO, will be a NA publisher. Then shortly after, comes the beta announcement I could be wrong, only time will tell ^^
theyve said if they catch people trying to sign up twice they will guarantee you will not get beta. But ok some might not know that.
mmorpg.com also said if they catch people creating alt accounts here they will be perma banned and yet there are more alts in the darkfall section since the release of the video in August than in any other mmorpg.com sub forum combined.
Trust me. forumfall numbers do not reflect a different person for each count. Just as mmorpg.com's 923,172 members does not reflect 923,172 different people.
There's MANY reasons why people create alts here and every other forum.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
They have a publisher...but the publisher has never done software video games before. They usually restribute VHS/DVD movies in the greek language http://www.imdb.com/company/co0006126/
That doesn't mean shit, AVE is their distributor. They just burn CDs. Seriously people when any other game is about to launch do you check their distributor's business history? You're clutching to a straw, a old one. It's clear that Aventurine have to launch the game this year or atleast start a beta otherwise it will be a complete business suicide after so much hype. In what state it will deliver, is the hot discussion now.
sounds like someone has a guilty conscious.
I stated the facts. Is AVE not their publisher? If I am wrong, please let me know because according to Adventurine, AVE is their publisher.
The link I provided...is that not AVE and their previous work history? Did my post, in any way, tell you that they will not launch the game this year as your post stated?
Stop looking for things that are not there. Forum Post Comprehension FTW
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
theyve said if they catch people trying to sign up twice they will guarantee you will not get beta. But ok some might not know that.
And how will they be able to check that? I bet there are lots of people with like 8 accounts
They will probably use the same mechanic they will put in place to prevent people from making multiple accounts in the finished game, thus allowing them to play alts. If they can prevent that, then they can prevent people from signing up twice.
I am sure they are checking for unique ip addresses. Come on how many normal people would go out of the way and go through a proxy to register with two diff ip's.
You know that people actually PAY to get spots in Beta-Tests? I mean...on E-Bay and so on. I'd think if people do that, they will do other things to heighten their chances at a Beta-Spot.
People there is no sure way to prevent multiple acounts, registrations, etc. in internet.
There are many tools around to prevent been detected. Only people that lack of knowledge will be caught. And they will learn eventually.
This is a problem for games, forums, etc.
Btw, dxdiag doesnt ensure anything. If you have access to more than one computer you have then more than one dxdiag and that's not even editing it. And I am pretty sure there maybe many ways to create or modify dxdiags... its just a text file.
You have to invest a lot of money to prevent this kind of things and, even then, people will find the way to by pass your mechanisms.
I am sure they are checking for duplicate ip addresses. Come on how many normal people would go out of the way and go through a proxy to register with two diff ip's. not even I have done that, and I REAALLY want to play beta.
people do it here ALL the time....and mmorpg.com doesnt even have a beta.
When I served on staff here it was staggering the amount of people who created alts even when it specifically says you are not allowed to. We even developed an email system and other "deterrents" of having people create alts here. Like I said, The Darkfall subforums here has the highest concentrated amounts of alts than I have ever seen at mmorpg.com
But they do.
And they do it for the same reasons why they do it at other game forums...and its not to spread flowers of love and joy to people.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
there is a closed beta, apparently. And they have claimed that open beta will only be a few weeks before actual game...so thats only like 21-28 days (a month-ish).
there is a closed beta, apparently. And they have claimed that open beta will only be a few weeks before actual game...so thats only like 21-28 days (a month-ish).
there more hoping issues ownt arise for thatf ew weeks.. because they also said public beta will last as long as it needs too
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
2008 is a bit early to expect a release, given whats come out so far, with the beta being in "signup" phase still.
And still being in their Alpha test (its not really a closed beta) right now with so called "Professional testers"
-I'm not convinced if it does get rushed out this year that it will of been at least properly tested and everything is going to work as planned- (but it wouldn't be an MMO if everything worked like you expect it to)
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
They haven't proved that they do have a playable game yet. And he's right that the game won't come out in 2008. Vapourtroll has become an easy way to dismiss any skepticism of Darkfall as far as I can see.
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
They haven't proved that they do have a playable game yet. And he's right that the game won't come out in 2008. Vapourtroll has become an easy way to dismiss any skepticism of Darkfall as far as I can see.
for them not to have a playable game, it would mean that all 6 gameplay videos, totalling approx 30 mins of footage, released over the past 3 years, have all been faked. not to mention the 600+ screenshots, which would also have to have been faked. of course it's possible, but at this point, with a signed distributor and signed server provider and announcement of beta and release, skeptics of the game's existence just look like trolls and/or ignorant simpletons, usually both.
of course there is nothing wrong with skepticism -- skepticism is good -- but being skeptical about things for which there is tons of evidence (eg: evolution, global warming, darkfall being a game), can really only be ignorance and/or stupidity.
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
They haven't proved that they do have a playable game yet. And he's right that the game won't come out in 2008. Vapourtroll has become an easy way to dismiss any skepticism of Darkfall as far as I can see.
Its an old habit in western economy busines to pay someone for to give you a playable game. Did you pay for to be allowed to receive a playable copy?
[This is ofcourse a naive question cause in real, any developement of any product is company interns and represents know-how and accomulated capital of the company so it would be a joke for them you asking them to show you their product before they want to do it]
If not then its old habit in western economy to wait for the rules of the developers of a product on how and under wich circumstances you allowed to have access to their product.
understand that vaportroll ? Without having put money in you dont have any right for geting any proof or any playable game.
But in their greatness DF allowed even private followers of the game to take a look on it on some accasions and they written about. Use search.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
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That doesn't mean shit, AVE is their distributor. They just burn CDs. Seriously people when any other game is about to launch do you check their distributor's business history? You're clutching to a straw, a old one. It's clear that Aventurine have to launch the game this year or atleast start a beta otherwise it will be a complete business suicide after so much hype. In what state it will deliver, is the hot discussion now.
This is one of the biggest online gameshops in Sweden. But I'm not saying you're wrong cause you're right
Eh, guess it's because I'm from the states. I'm not clear here, but I'm fairly positive they haven't found a NA publisher, just the EU. So until they get a NA publisher, I don't see gamestop knowing about Darkfall. Every Gamestop or Store dedicated to Games only, has no idea what DFO is. Everyone I've went to, I say, "Hey man, You heard of Darkfall Online?". I get the same answer everytime, Nope. I then precede listing features and they begin to drool. I think I've showed the gameplay video to about 8 of my friends, all who were drooling over it, so 120k is maybe an understatement. I mean, granted others are doing the same thing I am.
Which also reminds me, I forgot to add this to my last post. Darkfall has stated they want the NA & EU launches to be simoltaneous.Tasos clearly stating they won't compromise the vision they have to any extent. I think the next big news announced from DFO, will be a NA publisher. Then shortly after, comes the beta announcement
I could be wrong, only time will tell ^^
mmorpg.com also said if they catch people creating alt accounts here they will be perma banned and yet there are more alts in the darkfall section since the release of the video in August than in any other mmorpg.com sub forum combined.
Trust me. forumfall numbers do not reflect a different person for each count. Just as mmorpg.com's 923,172 members does not reflect 923,172 different people.
There's MANY reasons why people create alts here and every other forum.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
That doesn't mean shit, AVE is their distributor. They just burn CDs. Seriously people when any other game is about to launch do you check their distributor's business history? You're clutching to a straw, a old one. It's clear that Aventurine have to launch the game this year or atleast start a beta otherwise it will be a complete business suicide after so much hype. In what state it will deliver, is the hot discussion now.
sounds like someone has a guilty conscious.
I stated the facts. Is AVE not their publisher? If I am wrong, please let me know because according to Adventurine, AVE is their publisher.
The link I provided...is that not AVE and their previous work history? Did my post, in any way, tell you that they will not launch the game this year as your post stated?
Stop looking for things that are not there. Forum Post Comprehension FTW
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You have to submit a dxdiag. That should discourage multiple entries. Then again, it's possible they don't even check for duplicates.
They will probably use the same mechanic they will put in place to prevent people from making multiple accounts in the finished game, thus allowing them to play alts. If they can prevent that, then they can prevent people from signing up twice.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I am sure they are checking for duplicate ip addresses.
Come on how many normal people would go out of the way and go through a proxy to register with two diff ip's.
not even I have done that, and I REAALLY want to play beta.
Khael[SUN]
SUN - peekayin since pong
Webdeveloper on:
http://www.guildofsun.com
http://www.bloodmonarchy.com
You know that people actually PAY to get spots in Beta-Tests? I mean...on E-Bay and so on. I'd think if people do that, they will do other things to heighten their chances at a Beta-Spot.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
People there is no sure way to prevent multiple acounts, registrations, etc. in internet.
There are many tools around to prevent been detected. Only people that lack of knowledge will be caught. And they will learn eventually.
This is a problem for games, forums, etc.
Btw, dxdiag doesnt ensure anything. If you have access to more than one computer you have then more than one dxdiag and that's not even editing it. And I am pretty sure there maybe many ways to create or modify dxdiags... its just a text file.
You have to invest a lot of money to prevent this kind of things and, even then, people will find the way to by pass your mechanisms.
Thinking otherwise is naive.
yeah but comeone how many people will go through a proxy or use ip-hide tools. maybe 1% maximum.
Khael[SUN]
SUN - peekayin since pong
Webdeveloper on:
http://www.guildofsun.com
http://www.bloodmonarchy.com
people do it here ALL the time....and mmorpg.com doesnt even have a beta.
When I served on staff here it was staggering the amount of people who created alts even when it specifically says you are not allowed to. We even developed an email system and other "deterrents" of having people create alts here. Like I said, The Darkfall subforums here has the highest concentrated amounts of alts than I have ever seen at mmorpg.com
But they do.
And they do it for the same reasons why they do it at other game forums...and its not to spread flowers of love and joy to people.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
there is a closed beta, apparently. And they have claimed that open beta will only be a few weeks before actual game...so thats only like 21-28 days (a month-ish).
DARKFALL 09!
Apparently 08 didn't make it
Sorros of Forumfall.
there more hoping issues ownt arise for thatf ew weeks.. because they also said public beta will last as long as it needs too
Only the most optomistic people believe it will be out in 2008, far more likely to be mid to late 2009. Not shown in any shows, Leipzig was just last month in Europe, did not even show for that, so pretty much concludes they don't quite have a playable game yet.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
2008 is a bit early to expect a release, given whats come out so far, with the beta being in "signup" phase still.
And still being in their Alpha test (its not really a closed beta) right now with so called "Professional testers"
-I'm not convinced if it does get rushed out this year that it will of been at least properly tested and everything is going to work as planned- (but it wouldn't be an MMO if everything worked like you expect it to)
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
They haven't proved that they do have a playable game yet. And he's right that the game won't come out in 2008. Vapourtroll has become an easy way to dismiss any skepticism of Darkfall as far as I can see.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
They haven't proved that they do have a playable game yet. And he's right that the game won't come out in 2008. Vapourtroll has become an easy way to dismiss any skepticism of Darkfall as far as I can see.
for them not to have a playable game, it would mean that all 6 gameplay videos, totalling approx 30 mins of footage, released over the past 3 years, have all been faked. not to mention the 600+ screenshots, which would also have to have been faked. of course it's possible, but at this point, with a signed distributor and signed server provider and announcement of beta and release, skeptics of the game's existence just look like trolls and/or ignorant simpletons, usually both.
of course there is nothing wrong with skepticism -- skepticism is good -- but being skeptical about things for which there is tons of evidence (eg: evolution, global warming, darkfall being a game), can really only be ignorance and/or stupidity.
look guys it's a vapourtroll, how cute!!
just when you thought they were extinct from being blown away by the awesomeness of the August video (which they said wouldn't come out, would be bad, etc).
i think i left my vapourlollerskates in my roflocopter.
Aye he is a cutie pie.
"Winks at the cute vaporware troll"
I don't get how Ozmodan could be viewed as a vaporware troll from his post. He is saying the game will come out, just not in 2008. He gives reasons on why he believes this, but it's hardly a vicious attack on the game.
it was a thinly veiled troll. it's the ridiculousness of the "they don't have a playable game yet" statement that does it.
They haven't proved that they do have a playable game yet. And he's right that the game won't come out in 2008. Vapourtroll has become an easy way to dismiss any skepticism of Darkfall as far as I can see.
Its an old habit in western economy busines to pay someone for to give you a playable game. Did you pay for to be allowed to receive a playable copy?
[This is ofcourse a naive question cause in real, any developement of any product is company interns and represents know-how and accomulated capital of the company so it would be a joke for them you asking them to show you their product before they want to do it]
If not then its old habit in western economy to wait for the rules of the developers of a product on how and under wich circumstances you allowed to have access to their product.
understand that vaportroll ? Without having put money in you dont have any right for geting any proof or any playable game.
But in their greatness DF allowed even private followers of the game to take a look on it on some accasions and they written about. Use search.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)