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Warhammer is completly overrated.

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  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495
    Originally posted by Smilex0311

    Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss


    ... Everyone loving the game isn't posting on these blasted forums right now.......



     

    This exact sentence was used with AoC in one many of the various forums.  Look where that went...*flushing sound fx*

    Im not a Warhammer hater.  I own it and am currently playing.  I think Mythic did well w/ this game, but I just had to quote this because its like deja vu...Hopefully it wont end the same way.

    Anyone else remember reading something similar?

     

    This was also said when WoW was released, and every other MMO.  What's your point?  Everyone compares everything to AoC like it's the first game for all of these things to happen and because they happen again in this game it means WAR will suffer the same fate.  It happens in every game at launch. 

  • CyberWizCyberWiz Member UncommonPosts: 914

    WAR delivered what it promised, if you do not like that, then you do not like it ...

    I like it alot right now, really, so much, that I left Ryzom, which is a great sandbox game.

    WAR has no stress, no grind, and all fun.

    Thats how I feel about it atm.

     

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  • MoodahMoodah Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by tetammoth


    who cares, this game isnt better than AoC, it just has more fanbois at the moment.
    The flamewar for this game comes soon, do you think i am the only one that found out what bullcrap Mythic sold to us ?

    I don't know where you took that, but the difference from AOC for example is that Mythic delivered stuff they promissed and did not cheat people, which was the major reason for AOC failure. Since you are taking the AoC example - AoC promissed one, delivered something else and that in a highly unfinished state. WAR delivered what it promissed, mostly in the state they promissed so if there are any complaints, they are not even closely in the same league as AOC, and that will show in the numbers.

    You might not like how the game looks and works, but that is only your own problem that you did not read tons of information, available well before the launch, before you decided to make a purchase and thus, you have zero right to come complain. Mythic did not sell you any bullcrap - it is obviously you who did an unimformed purchase.

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519

    Yeah this game is slow, Boring, and dull. I will agree the classes in this game suck. Healers suck, Tanks suck, only good thing in this game is Melee DPS, but they took out 2 of them when i think squig herder would of been a better class to remove. And all battles are decided now with how many people you have to Gank the other guy before his help arrives, which in turn wont help because they will just kill him then run. We will see the true numbers for this game when WoTLK comes out because damn they aint going to be able to keep the WoWbois for to much longer.

    PS Im not a WoWboi i hate wow with a passion. It ruined MMO's IMHO.

  • madstoogmadstoog Member Posts: 132

     OP borns the shit out of me. 

    lol what a no life person he must be, bet all he does is talk about games on forums all day, how pathetic.

    ah .

  • afoaaafoaa Member UncommonPosts: 578

    I think the OPs agenda is pretty obvious. He likes another game and is pissed that WaR has drawn people away from that game so it hurts his enjoyment of the game he likes. So he tries to downtalk WaR in the hope that it will make less people move over to it and hurting his game experience even more.

    One thing sounds right. People who dont like the game get the dislike within 48 hours of starting to play it. WaR is so radically different that it doesnt take 40 lvls to understand if the game is not your cup of tea. I have seen that in several of my friends. But none of them felt the urge to hurt WaR because of this.

    "You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."

  • crunchyblackcrunchyblack Member Posts: 1,362

    Some people who are not playing war, want to see it fail so bad, they feel the need to describe it as the worst game ever.

    Of many of the negative posts ive seen on this thread, warhammer, for me, is nothing like they explained it. Gameplay isnt slow or clunky, i enjoy the graphics, pve is fun and still growing on me.

    I guess they dont like the no-grind fun...its funny because before warhammer i gurantee on other game forums they all bitched about how grindy games where.

    Yeah instant action RvR, more content than any game out todate, option to not grind at all to endgame...yeah warhammer sucks /s

  • Lord_IxiganLord_Ixigan Member Posts: 548

    I enjoy  WAR and love the Warhammer lore so whenever I see people bitch about WAR I usually just chuckle and move on without responding.

     

    Let me break this down for everyone in an honest fashion:

    Reasons to like WAR:

    Mythic delivered on almost  -exactly- what they promised the game would be.

    Mythic has been extremely upfront about the game. When people bitched about server congestion they took the time to clone -everything- on the heavily populated servers to less populated ones so people could switch servers and not have to start everything over.

    WAR has the best PvP system of any mmo to date, if you don't like pvp then I wouldn't bother buying this game.

    WAR gives you the option to have ZERO grind to level. You can level ENTIRELY off of PvP if you choose to and there is still PLENTY of PvE content to level completely that way if you choose to (it's faster in fact).

    WAR is -extremely-  loyal to the world GW created, so if you are a fan of Warhammer lore then it's really fun to see it in action like this.

     

    Reasons not to like WAR:

    EA forced Mythic to 'kiddify' the game in order to give it a Teen rating. It isn't Mythics fault that EA has the business sense to release a well-funded MMO to blanket as wide an audience as possible. Still though WAR should be much, much bloodier.

    I'm not going to even mention the graphics for one simple reason: If you bitch about graphics in MMO's then you have NO idea what you're talking when it comes to the mmo market. The time it takes to build high-res models with the kind of poly count most of you people are whining for eats up a LOT of dev time. MMO's are extremely complex to code and if you try to focus on graphics then your gameplay WILL suffer unless you double your dev cycle, which costs a shit load more money. AoC reportedly threw 100m into the game...they focused almost entirely on smooth animations and graphics and look where that got them. AoC is the BIGGEST flop in mmo history and will hold that title forever.

    There really aren't enough crafting professions. As it stands there are only two actual crafting professions and while interesting are still pretty lame imho. Mythic should have incorporated more in-depth crafting profs such as the ones from EQ2 (probably the best crafting system I've ever seen in any game).

     

     

    I've had enough of these bitchy threads from dumbass players who need to go back to playing single player games. People like the OP have no idea what they're talking about and need to get out of the mmo market entirely because it's clearly not the kind of game for them. MMO's are a complex beasts and if you don't understand what actually goes into them then you need to stay away from them, or just stay away from bitching about them.

     

  • PhilssPhilss Member Posts: 433

    Graphic is nothing to me . Fact : the best RPGs ive ever played are on snes ( final fantasy 3 chrono trigger ) .

     

    Gameplay + fun factor >>>>>>> graphic anytime of the day .

     

    If you dont think like this then maybe you should go buy yourself a playstation 3 or xbox 360?

  • WolfkroneWolfkrone Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by tetammoth

    Originally posted by dreamer05


    Graphics graphics and more graphics, that's all I'm hearing.  If you want to play a game with good graphics go play Vanguard, see how far you will go with that. =)

    My Vanguard Account is active and i am playing it. I gave this Warhammer crap to my girlfriend now, she wants to give it a try. I have some 30ish characters in Vanguard. no way someone could compare the warm atmosphere of VG with the candy land grafic from Warhammer.

    Also the Fighting system in VG is years ahead of this warhammer crap. 

     

     

     

     

    Hmm, you have 30ish characters in Vanguard, I suppose this means you like to do the same boring quest (kill @*%# 1/1000) over and over? Vanguard is overrated by it's fans, there is no real endgame. All you do in Vanguard is the same boring PvE crap over and over, while your human characters look like women regardless of their gender.

    Also, the animal races in Vanguard are just cheap humans with an animal head on them, at least in Everquest II they were actually different... where are the cat-like appendages? In Vanguard I can walk into an enemy races city and do anything I want there... without them doing anything to me, what the hell is up with that?

    Vanguard has failed to beat the game it was supposed to succeed let alone Warcraft, Warhammer or hell, even Conan.

    Whats the point of a big open world if there is nobody to share it with? (I forgot to mention half the game is covered in same-looking spiders that just have a different name).

    I'm fine with people criticizing Warhammer, yes, it has it's flaws... but comparing it to Failguard: Saga of Spiders is a joke.

    P.S: I believe it's Graphics... what are is your avg. FPS anyway?

    Tried: WoW
    Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
    Playing: DAoC.
    Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  • Balthaazar1Balthaazar1 Member Posts: 531

    The only thing overated is your opinion that we care. Who the hell is honestly going to not play Warhammer because of you? Certainly not all the people having a blast all this month in it.

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    'Cry Havoc, and Let Loose the Dogs of WARRRRR!!!'

  • acme22acme22 Member Posts: 97
    Originally posted by LordRelic


    Good Bye, Don't let the door hit ya.

    lol good one!

  • IronMan66IronMan66 Member Posts: 25
    Originally posted by Wolfkrone

    Originally posted by tetammoth

    Originally posted by dreamer05


    Graphics graphics and more graphics, that's all I'm hearing.  If you want to play a game with good graphics go play Vanguard, see how far you will go with that. =)

    My Vanguard Account is active and i am playing it. I gave this Warhammer crap to my girlfriend now, she wants to give it a try. I have some 30ish characters in Vanguard. no way someone could compare the warm atmosphere of VG with the candy land grafic from Warhammer.

    Also the Fighting system in VG is years ahead of this warhammer crap. 

     

     

     

     

    Hmm, you have 30ish characters in Vanguard, I suppose this means you like to do the same boring quest (kill @*%# 1/1000) over and over? Vanguard is overrated by it's fans, there is no real endgame. All you do in Vanguard is the same boring PvE crap over and over, while your human characters look like women regardless of their gender.

    Also, the animal races in Vanguard are just cheap humans with an animal head on them, at least in Everquest II they were actually different... where are the cat-like appendages? In Vanguard I can walk into an enemy races city and do anything I want there... without them doing anything to me, what the hell is up with that?

    Vanguard has failed to beat the game it was supposed to succeed let alone Warcraft, Warhammer or hell, even Conan.

    Whats the point of a big open world if there is nobody to share it with? (I forgot to mention half the game is covered in same-looking spiders that just have a different name).

    I'm fine with people criticizing Warhammer, yes, it has it's flaws... but comparing it to Failguard: Saga of Spiders is a joke.

    P.S: I believe it's Graphics... what are is your avg. FPS anyway?

    And Warhammer has what?  Destruction completely dominating every tier so that they can endlessly sack Order's capital?  mmmm... good fun!   Enjoy it.

  • BorkotronBorkotron Member Posts: 282

    WAR rocks my SOXXORS. No use in arguing with the haters so might as well say stupid crap. Silly gamers...if you don't like a game, go play something else. If you think you have a credible opinion about why you don't like a particular game, why not email the developers? Lord knows they might actually care. Because, those of us who are enjoying the game really don't care that you're butt hurt over a game that didn't please you.

  • viltsuh1viltsuh1 Member Posts: 3

    uhh... you're completely "off skiing" as we say here in Finland. You probably didn't even want to like WAR, you were so addicted to WoW and wanted to back to your beloved warrior priest. Well I don't mind. And btw, the graphics aren't that bad. Maybe you should've put up your resolution and the gameplay is really awesome once you get used to it. Well,  I'm off to Ekrund and have a nice RvR match against the runty dwarfs. You can go grind some squirrels for 200 hides.

    I'd rate  it 9/10

  • elondorelondor Member Posts: 171
    Originally posted by dreamer05


    You can take Vanguard then with its cookie cutter classes and its half million animal-human races and its standard battle system and keep it.
     
    I'll take WARs new creative classes, fun and interesting RvR including; open RvR, scenarios, and all else that goes along with it.  And call it even then!

     

    creative classes? LOL.  hold on, i had to stop laughing.  rvr, that is such a joke.  MMO pvp is for people who suck at FPS games. 

    mmo's will always be about PvE, and PvE is where warhammer fails, it fails at everything, but pve especially.  it will fail at pvp too because pretty soon people will realize all the class imbalances, people will start to use speed and radar hacks like in daoc, people will start multi boxing and throwing the balance like every ignorant pvp system mmo's have thought up.

    i don't know how many times i have said this, but no game will ever be good at pvp while there is a class, race, level, and gear based system in effect.  sorry, it just won't happen.

     

     

  • DreawingDreawing Member Posts: 362

    It's funny he has no clue what he's talking about.

    Warhammer won't get boring ... It will get better

     

    Warhammer online has so much content to add later and more zones and more cities then wow will ever have to offer.

    I think warhammer deserves the rating because it is fun. The pvp is fun. The quests are fun.

    You just don't know what fun means?

  • tquetque Member Posts: 28

    the reason people start such posts is that their sense of security is somehow disturbed by the game that is actually good and fun to play

    it is a strange phenomenon and might be characterised as the pokemon generation, such people as OP were raised by pokemons and that is why they are fucked in the head a bit

    sad thing is that we make those posts active and they are headlined on mmorpg. com

  • WolfkroneWolfkrone Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by IronMan66

    Originally posted by Wolfkrone

    Originally posted by tetammoth

    Originally posted by dreamer05


    Graphics graphics and more graphics, that's all I'm hearing.  If you want to play a game with good graphics go play Vanguard, see how far you will go with that. =)

    My Vanguard Account is active and i am playing it. I gave this Warhammer crap to my girlfriend now, she wants to give it a try. I have some 30ish characters in Vanguard. no way someone could compare the warm atmosphere of VG with the candy land grafic from Warhammer.

    Also the Fighting system in VG is years ahead of this warhammer crap. 

     

     

     

     

    Hmm, you have 30ish characters in Vanguard, I suppose this means you like to do the same boring quest (kill @*%# 1/1000) over and over? Vanguard is overrated by it's fans, there is no real endgame. All you do in Vanguard is the same boring PvE crap over and over, while your human characters look like women regardless of their gender.

    Also, the animal races in Vanguard are just cheap humans with an animal head on them, at least in Everquest II they were actually different... where are the cat-like appendages? In Vanguard I can walk into an enemy races city and do anything I want there... without them doing anything to me, what the hell is up with that?

    Vanguard has failed to beat the game it was supposed to succeed let alone Warcraft, Warhammer or hell, even Conan.

    Whats the point of a big open world if there is nobody to share it with? (I forgot to mention half the game is covered in same-looking spiders that just have a different name).

    I'm fine with people criticizing Warhammer, yes, it has it's flaws... but comparing it to Failguard: Saga of Spiders is a joke.

    P.S: I believe it's Graphics... what are is your avg. FPS anyway?

    And Warhammer has what?  Destruction completely dominating every tier so that they can endlessly sack Order's capital?  mmmm... good fun!   Enjoy it.

     

    If you believe that come play on Ironclaw, we're quite balanced.

    Tried: WoW
    Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
    Playing: DAoC.
    Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  • Keeper2000Keeper2000 Member UncommonPosts: 637
    Originally posted by tetammoth  

    Many people will follow my opinion soon after a few weeks more people will wake up and see what crap they bought and even played. 

    So... you are some kind of prophet and people are all ignorant and blind maggots.  We are so lucky to have you to show us the way.

     

  • WolfkroneWolfkrone Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by Keeper2000

    Originally posted by tetammoth  

    Many people will follow my opinion soon after a few weeks more people will wake up and see what crap they bought and even played. 

    So... you are some kind of prophet and people are all ignorant and blind maggots.  We are so lucky to have you to show us the way.

     

     

    He's the next Jesus, watch the idiots who follow him!

    Tried: WoW
    Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
    Playing: DAoC.
    Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088

    If you dont like WAR then dont play it. Why does it matter to you that it got high rating? The whole WARvs AoC or WAR vs WoW debates (flamefests might be a better word because I rarely see a real argument presented) are for the simpleminded.

  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786
    Originally posted by Keeper2000

    Originally posted by tetammoth  

    Many people will follow my opinion soon after a few weeks more people will wake up and see what crap they bought and even played. 

    So... you are some kind of prophet and people are all ignorant and blind maggots.  We are so lucky to have you to show us the way.

     

     

    Lol, at Jesus comment. Sorry to burst you bubble but i won't be following your opinion. I cancelled my AOC sub and looking forward to more fun in WAR.

  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by tetammoth

    Originally posted by dreamer05


    Graphics graphics and more graphics, that's all I'm hearing.  If you want to play a game with good graphics go play Vanguard, see how far you will go with that. =)

    My Vanguard Account is active and i am playing it. I gave this Warhammer crap to my girlfriend now, she wants to give it a try. I have some 30ish characters in Vanguard. no way someone could compare the warm atmosphere of VG with the candy land grafic from Warhammer.

    Also the Fighting system in VG is years ahead of this warhammer crap. 

     

     

     

    Warhammer was setup for large multi-character battles in one place.  If you tried to put the same amount of people in one place with the graphic levels of VG nobodies computer could run it.  You've got to compromise in one area to get the epic battles in the other.

    I like the epic battles.  Tons of people all over.  The graphics are more than adequate to get my imagination wrapped around the scene.  That's all it takes for me, the rest is all fun in game play.

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  • ManchineManchine Member UncommonPosts: 469

    Hey look a troll.  Puts Troll on ignore. 

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