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Warhammer is completly overrated.

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  • c0nan999c0nan999 Member Posts: 15
    Originally posted by tetammoth


    This game has a User Rating of 8.92, the true rating without the fanbois that even love the bugs is >>
    at best 7.2     
    the game is slow, boring, the classes are boring theres nothing new. This gam should have been sold in 2003-2004 but not at 2008.
    The grafic sucks, new grafic cards are useless because this game even runs on a ATI1950XT in full FPS.
    The animations are dull and all classes look like robots. 
    Again many of us got hyped by the marketing of Mythic. But looking at DAOC, honestly i didnt expect anything that great. Well i bought it and i want to sell it ASAP. i hope i find someone stupid enough to take it.
    People that compare this game with Vanguard, WoW or even AoC cant be normal. They must be blinded and mindwashed by all the commercials.
    This game runs on a Pentium 4 3Ghz, 2GB and a shitty VGA Card with max quality.
    No Bump Mapping, No high resolution Textures, just plain old 2003 WoW Grafic with other design.
    Thats it.
    Many people will follow my opinion soon after a few weeks more people will wake up and see what crap they bought and even played.
    BTW > Warrior Priests are the Paladins of Warhammer, even 7 Orcs cant kill one of them. Nice Balanceing Mythic  
     (no native english,thnx) 
                                            
    OMG WARHAMMER !!! RUN !!!    
     
    so your basing the graphics on your walmart special? get a real comp noob if u can even handle building one wich i doubt.



     

  • MatticulousMatticulous Member Posts: 52

    It's funny how the WARheads fight so hard to defend this game when they know it will be dead in a year or so.

  • JadegogetterJadegogetter Member Posts: 40

    The only game that is on par with WAR, yes on par! Is WoW and WoW has had years to fine tune.

    AoC will gain popularaty with time but WAR has more to offter.

    As for GFX, well try forceing AA and AF.  Lush graphics! WAR will only strengthen with time. More content, more items, perhaps changes in characters, more HQ citys, more PQ's, perhaps better crafting, endgame content with unlimited lore to play with. Always a struge in PvP with real goals at the end for RvR and many more.  Its a game at launch that plays well, has content! and keeps players happy. What more can you ask for :O

    Imo any way

  • NewhopesNewhopes Member Posts: 458

    I think this game will get boring pretty fast, ya so keep sieges are fun but I bet you they get pretty boring after you've done it for the hundredth time, and world pvp will be the same just an endless zerg with little to no skill involved

  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786
    Originally posted by Mattee336


    It's funny how the WARheads fight so hard to defend this game when they know it will be dead in a year or so.

     

    And you know that for fact? how? you are not such a  good troll. You need more practise.

  • rashherorashhero Member UncommonPosts: 510

    Opinions FTW!

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690
    Originally posted by Newhopes


    I think this game will get boring pretty fast, ya so keep sieges are fun but I bet you they get pretty boring after you've done it for the hundredth time, and world pvp will be the same just an endless zerg with little to no skill involved



     

    So true because even on servers that are supposedly balanced between Order and Destruction hardly anyone is doing Open RVR. People are doing scenarios instead and the wait times are too long. The imbalance between Destruction and Order is hurting the game. They certainly made Destruction a more favorable faction to play as far as classes and character model, they look so much better than Order. 

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  • QmireQmire Member Posts: 423

    2 more weeks and we'll see if the hammer will fall.

     

    personally i don't think this game will fail at all, afterall it's like a DAOC2 being mixed with a popular IP by many dungeon lovers.

     

    It's meant to keep atleast twice the amount of subs than DAOC did/does.

     

    I can't see the game as being good since the combat dynamics are awful in my opinion but that's mine alone, others will differ.

     

    GFX art wise, i believe it's not even remotely as well done as Blizzard did WoW. But then again it's my opinion and possibly every other mmo player who liked/likes WoW.

     

    I'm kinda saddend that the next mmorpg i'll be buying will be WotLK, followed by Aion sometime in the future, since i really believed this year would be the year where a lot of new big things would hit the mmorpg market but untill now it's only been pretenders.

     

    If WAR had better combat dynamics, i would have been playing and enjoying that game right now. Just wanted to point that out, because WAR has some nice features. Kinda weird saying that after pointing out how awful i thought the dynamics were and how bad i thought the art was, isn't it?  xD

  • xrealmerxrealmer Member Posts: 19

    If its was DAoC II i would play it

  • NewhopesNewhopes Member Posts: 458
    Originally posted by Qmire


    2 more weeks and we'll see if the hammer will fall.
     
    personally i don't think this game will fail at all, afterall it's like a DAOC2 being mixed with a popular IP by many dungeon lovers.
     
    It's meant to keep atleast twice the amount of subs than DAOC did/does.
     
    I can't see the game as being good since the combat dynamics are awful in my opinion but that's mine alone, others will differ.
     
    GFX art wise, i believe it's not even remotely as well done as Blizzard did WoW. But then again it's my opinion and possibly every other mmo player who liked/likes WoW.
     
    I'm kinda saddend that the next mmorpg i'll be buying will be WotLK, followed by Aion sometime in the future, since i really believed this year would be the year where a lot of new big things would hit the mmorpg market but untill now it's only been pretenders.
     
    If WAR had better combat dynamics, i would have been playing and enjoying that game right now. Just wanted to point that out, because WAR has some nice features. Kinda weird saying that after pointing out how awful i thought the dynamics were and how bad i thought the art was, isn't it?  xD



     

    I don't think it'll fail either I just don't think i'll be as successful as some are claiming.

  • FenixSXFenixSX Member Posts: 12

    Let me break this down barney style for all you graphic douche bags.

    You'll notice that most MMORPGs don't have amazing graphics, and that's for a good fucking reason. MMORPGs have fair-decent graphics so more machines can handle it. Which means more people play, and the more money the company makes.

     

    This is common sense people, come on. That and you shouldn't be worried about graphics. Graphics are NOT what make a game good.

     

    I understand where you're coming from, it's nice to play a game with awesome gameplay and pretty visuals. That's just not the point though. People still play games like Pacman religiously, and by todays standards that games graphics are shit.

     

    You know why people still play classic games? Because their core gameplay elements are FUN. They're ENTERTAINING.

     

    If graphics mattered so much, the 10+million people who are playing WoW definitely wouldn't be there. If they mattered so much, people wouldn't be playing MMORPGs as much as they do.

     

    Let's hope this message clicks in some peoples heads.

     

     

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,033

           I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

  • vinwieselvinwiesel Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by Theocritus


           I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

     

    What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

    It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

  • jimcabtv24jimcabtv24 Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by vinwiesel

    Originally posted by Theocritus


           I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

     

    What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

    It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

     

    So true.  I just picked up WAR today, and it runs pretty crummy for me.  All graphical settings practically look the same (the only difference I notice is view distance between them).  Lineage 2 ran pretty well on my system.  Hell, Tabula Rasa (a game with a lot of action going on in zones like WAR) looks far better and is alot more smooth than WAR with alot of people in certain areas. 

    Not to mention the game logging off randomly for me, despite my connection being perfectly fine.  I just don't understand this game's problem at all. 

  • WolfkroneWolfkrone Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by jimcabtv24

    Originally posted by vinwiesel

    Originally posted by Theocritus


           I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

     

    What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

    It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

     

    So true.  I just picked up WAR today, and it runs pretty crummy for me.  All graphical settings practically look the same (the only difference I notice is view distance between them).  Lineage 2 ran pretty well on my system.  Hell, Tabula Rasa (a game with a lot of action going on in zones like WAR) looks far better and is alot more smooth than WAR with alot of people in certain areas. 

    Not to mention the game logging off randomly for me, despite my connection being perfectly fine.  I just don't understand this game's problem at all. 

     

    Probably firewalls, whats your PC's specs?

    Tried: WoW
    Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
    Playing: DAoC.
    Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  • jimcabtv24jimcabtv24 Member Posts: 20

    c2d e6600 2.4ghz

    2gig ram

    GF 8800gtx 768mb

    I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

    EDIT: And the problem isn't too extreme, it just happens about every 15-30 minutes, usually in PQ area, in scenario's or coming out of them, etc. 

  • WolfkroneWolfkrone Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by jimcabtv24


    c2d e6600 2.4ghz

    2gig ram

    GF 8800gtx 768mb
    I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

     

    Running Vista?

    You need more RAM. Also, your firewall might be interfering with the game, I know mine was for a while.

    Tried: WoW
    Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
    Playing: DAoC.
    Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  • jimcabtv24jimcabtv24 Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Wolfkrone

    Originally posted by jimcabtv24


    c2d e6600 2.4ghz

    2gig ram

    GF 8800gtx 768mb
    I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

     

    Running Vista?

    You need more RAM. Also, your firewall might be interfering with the game, I know mine was for a while.

     

    No, Xp.  And I've been reading around, 2gb for around these specs supposedly runs the game pretty decently. 

    I'll check into my firewall.  I turned off windows firewall and no go, even added exceptions for the game.  I'll try the router firewall, but I dunno...port forwarding should have bypassed it regardless.

  • WolfkroneWolfkrone Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by jimcabtv24

    Originally posted by Wolfkrone

    Originally posted by jimcabtv24


    c2d e6600 2.4ghz

    2gig ram

    GF 8800gtx 768mb
    I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

     

    Running Vista?

    You need more RAM. Also, your firewall might be interfering with the game, I know mine was for a while.

     

    No, Xp.  And I've been reading around, 2gb for around these specs supposedly runs the game pretty decently. 

    I'll check into my firewall.  I turned off windows firewall and no go, even added exceptions for the game.  I'll try the router firewall, but I dunno...port forwarding should have bypassed it regardless.

     

    What resolution etc. have you got the game on?

    Tried: WoW
    Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
    Playing: DAoC.
    Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258
    Originally posted by jimcabtv24

    Originally posted by vinwiesel

    Originally posted by Theocritus


           I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

     

    What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

    It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

     

    So true.  I just picked up WAR today, and it runs pretty crummy for me.  All graphical settings practically look the same (the only difference I notice is view distance between them).  Lineage 2 ran pretty well on my system.  Hell, Tabula Rasa (a game with a lot of action going on in zones like WAR) looks far better and is alot more smooth than WAR with alot of people in certain areas. 

    Not to mention the game logging off randomly for me, despite my connection being perfectly fine.  I just don't understand this game's problem at all. 

    L2 looking better than WAR i guess thats just opinions because I think WAR looks better than L2.  But I run fine on max settings with a full warband and more against another full warband if not more and its pretty much fine. I get a few hicups here and there but the framerate is quite nice. 

    my specs are

    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz

    Memory: 3328MB RAM

    Graphics: ATI 4850

     

  • jimcabtv24jimcabtv24 Member Posts: 20

    I tried on all resolutions, my native screen resolution is 1440x900, so that's what it initially was on.  Tried 1280x768, as well as 1024x768...same outcomes.  All current drivers for my card.  I'm honestly on the virge of downgrading drivers to see what happens, I dunno.  I just don't think the performance is what it honestly should be at all. 

  • jimcabtv24jimcabtv24 Member Posts: 20

    Although.....I've read about sound drivers, I dunno if that could be the problem or not.  I think I'll try that tomorrow and see if that is the problem.

  • PontifusPontifus Member Posts: 34
    Originally posted by tetammoth

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    BTW > Warrior Priests are the Paladins of Warhammer, even 7 Orcs cant kill one of them. Nice Balanceing Mythic  
    ...

     

    Sounds like those seven orcs need to learn to play. Black orcs aren't the best class for killing WPs, but they're certainly capable of it. If this is really your experience, and not exaggeration, balance has nothing to do with it; it's a matter of player skill.

    Explorer: 87%, Socializer: 60%, Achiever: 47%, Killer: 7%

  • red_cruiserred_cruiser Member UncommonPosts: 486

    To be perfectly honest, even though the game is fun (making a game that is fun should be seen as barely passing, in my opinion, if that is all it accomplishes) I have to agree with it being an over rated game.  If you are the type of person who likes MMORPGs, you'll like WAR most likely, but it could really have been done much better and delivered what it promised more successfully.

    So far, the "PvP" in Warhammer consists of two things: Instanced battlegrounds called "scenarios" and trying to kill a bunch of people huddled around a Hero and three Champions in a not quite so very epic "Keep" fight.

    Anybody who gets excited about PvP of that ilk hasn't likely played any game other than World of Warcraft.   There's no point to really fight around the Battlefield objectives because once you cap it your enemy can't turn it over for a certain period of time, and I have yet to see anyone really fight all that hard over one.

    Beyond that, Class customization is bad, with some choices so obviously bad and some choices so obviously required that it inherently lends itself to cookie cutter specs.  Healers that can do "damage" is mostly a myth that has little bearing in reality.  Most of the "class mechanics" are more a hassle to trip through with little payoff for the extra effort required.

    All of the attacks in the game are largly the same, with only slight differences in modifiers.  Two attacks will both do 20 damage, but one will increase your Toughness by 12 and the other will increase your Strength by 12.  That's called filler.

    The game spent only 3 years in development and it shows in almost every area of the game.  We desparately needed a game with some polish and originality to compete with World of Warcraft, but sadly, this game is the same thing with a different twist. I won't even call it a PvP twist... it's an RvR twist.

    This game will be popular for a little while, but if Darkfall is released, and delivers, expect a big drop in population.  By making a game so fundamentally similar to WoW, Mythic has left themselves pretty vulnerable to WotLK.  EA's influence in this game is pretty evident already.

  • NetspookNetspook Member UncommonPosts: 1,583
    Originally posted by FenixSX


    Let me break this down barney style for all you graphic douche bags.
    You'll notice that most MMORPGs don't have amazing graphics, and that's for a good fucking reason. MMORPGs have fair-decent graphics so more machines can handle it. Which means more people play, and the more money the company makes.
    This is common sense people, come on. That and you shouldn't be worried about graphics. Graphics are NOT what make a game good.
    I understand where you're coming from, it's nice to play a game with awesome gameplay and pretty visuals. That's just not the point though. People still play games like Pacman religiously, and by todays standards that games graphics are shit.
    You know why people still play classic games? Because their core gameplay elements are FUN. They're ENTERTAINING.
    If graphics mattered so much, the 10+million people who are playing WoW definitely wouldn't be there. If they mattered so much, people wouldn't be playing MMORPGs as much as they do.
    Let's hope this message clicks in some peoples heads.



    "Let's hope this message clicks in some peoples heads".

    Dude, your opinions are not facts, they are just opinions. Not more valid than others'.

    And for heaven's sake, next time try to avoid words like "douche bags", "fucking", etc. It doesn't make your opinions more valid, it only proves you're very immature.

    OP, I agree that WAR is overrated. It's not a bad game, but I find it to be very lacking. I don't think this game will be any epic fail like AoC, but I do not doubt that a lot of players won't resub after the free month is over. I'm also quite sure that a lot of others won't resub once they understand how limited endgame is.

    Gorwe
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