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Omg its a scam! ..and HOW do I do different colored text? I want to put obnoxious emphasis on my post.
Just because they are now letting outside 3rd party players into the beta test is NOTHING to get excited about guyz. I mean that doesn't mean that you or I could potential get in right gaiz..doens't mean this is the first step to full blown beta amirite?
Sorry Cuk, but I have to disagree. This game could be 100x worse than Dark and Light and the fanbois would still call Darkfall Online the best game ever. Look back at Vanguard, POTBS, and AoC here on the forums. The original bandwagoners are still their pumping THEIR game's horn. No disrespect to fanboys, but they love what they love regardless if they are eating ground chicken livers when they were promised prime rib. To each their own, it is their $15 a month.
Ummm...No one in their right mind is claiming AoC is good, and Vanguard has had a complete 180 turnaround is is a good game to play now.
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It's always something with this game. I really believe the devs just love all the free hype. They keep it stirred up by being completely non-conventional and then set back and watch all the speculation and discussion that follows. A small company couldn't buy this kind of marketing and publicity if they tried.
thats it! its all part of a viral campaign! darkfall isn't a real game, its the game that will be played in Cloverfield 2, now more clovery! and its all here to stir up the movie hype like slusho!
the missing link in a chain of destruction.
All spelling and typographical errors are based soely on the fact that i just dont care. If you must point out my lack of atention to detail, please do it with a smile.
This game will crush all other MMO's in existence. Doubters will see a friend playing, and start the next day.
This will be the most PVP oriented MMO in existence, and the world is absolutely huge.
Lets just say, you can do almost anything you want.
Something that hasnt been in a good MMO since UO.
You know you make it hard to take you seriously when you say things like this. The ten million plus people who are playing WoW are not going to suddenly decide they want FFA PvP and full loot. So to Crush WoW Darkfall would need to expand the MMO maket by at least eight million people and empty every other MMO of PvP players. Not Happenin'
Of course they wont randomly decide such a thing. This was strictly a matter of my opinion. I feel that with the features in this game, and the combat possibilities, the gaming experience for players who aim to be extremely good will be much better and more rewarding than anything ive seen in any other MMO. Ive played dozens and have experienced the very best of end game content in more than a few MMORPGs.
Sorry i didnt clarify, but this game WILL be revolutionary imho.
You should really take my point seriously when you see the inconsistent climb and decline of WoW players who just get sick of the games mechanics and want a game that focuses on things that matter, like a combat system that requires alot more skill to be great at, among a myriad of other things. Plus, theres countless amounts of people who have wanted to pk a fellow WoW guildmate or someone of the same faction/race. Reasons for this are often plausible.
I do appreciate your opinion as well, but this game has no advertising campaign like WoW or anything else. Its strictly word of mouth that has gotten it this much hype. That fact alone proves something.
So... uh... anybody in yet? Anybody? C'mon, you can tell me, I promise I won't blab.
No?
No-one?
Probably you're all just keeping quiet because of the NDA thing, right? Why you sneaky little...
Maybe you guys should hold off all your "In Your Face" cheering and hollering until you have something to... y'know... shove In My Face. But hey, they still have 3 more months right? Before the Guaranteed Launch? Plenty of time.
And in the meantime, the time you took to read this post could have been the time it took Tasos to email you that Beta invite, so better refresh that Inbox. One more time.
Edit: Spelling, by crikey!
I really worry when people say that players don't like WoW because there's no PvP in WoW, or even that it's too limited. Has no one ever heard of PvP servers?? Just about every MMORPG has one, except MapleStory.
I also find it stretching credibility to suggest that a more difficult combat system will make most MMO players switch to DFO. Claim that it requires more "skill", it comes to the same thing... More difficult.
As for "full loot", I really have to wonder why that's so important. Many games have been cripled due to camping player respawn points, despite no loot. Many games don't have looting player corpses at all, yet still have large PvP communities. Plus, with full loot comes depressed prices on loot, so... I don't see the big deal of "full loot". (Although the idea is very attractive with PvE - very annoying to kill a creature with a sword and not get any loot... "Like WTF"!)
Increased difficulty, PvP, and looting will not draw WoW players. A well balanced sandbox, with a healthy dose of solo/non-combat activities would draw many. Whether DFO will have enough crafting and other trade skills, quests, merchanting, POH's, etc. to mention is yet to be seen.
(Vanguard, Tabula Rasa, Pirates of the Carribean, Warhammer, Age of Conan, etc. have gotten more hype than DFO. What does that say?)
So i can do anything i want?
Kill players?
Kill monsters?
Craft?
That's all darkfall is, you people act like you're going to be playing a virtual reality game. Can't wait till reality slaps you in the face.
That's hardly fair. I could say "all there is to watch on TV are soaps, reality shows and sports" and I would be right, but that's hardly the point. There's a much broader scope that can't be indicated with such a simple list. You'd almost need a branching tree diagram to list all the things to do in the game, assuming what we've been told is true.
is anyone from mmorpg.com in the beta?
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That's hardly fair. I could say "all there is to watch on TV are soaps, reality shows and sports" and I would be right, but that's hardly the point. There's a much broader scope that can't be indicated with such a simple list. You'd almost need a branching tree diagram to list all the things to do in the game, assuming what we've been told is true.
Yes but i don't have to describe it any further.
You're still out killing monsters(with or without quests, who knows?)
You're still ganking the other realm whenever you see them, and then having the random guy from your faction kill you.
You're still just getting materials to craft armors and buildings.
That's all it really is. The problem is, the DF fans have hyped it to be something much much more than that. And it's really not going to be.
That's exactly my point. By trying to limit the scope of the discussion by using broad, sweeping terms, you make it sound like each facet of the game is miniscule, which simply isn't true. I'll give examples.
Based on what we've been told, monsters don't just stand around waiting to be killed like in EQ or WoW. They have camps or groups or whatever, but they wander. They kill players, and loot them, and then wear the gear they looted, which can later be looted back off the mob and worn. They are capable of making decisions, jumping, switching weapons, running away and calling for help. Just a few examples.
You're leaving out guild vs guild wars, naval warfare, fighting while mounted, actual tactics such as using passes or hills for strategic advantage. There are pros and cons for rolling each race, since some races have more allies (and thus more people to ask for help) and some have more enemies (and thus more targets to kill and loot). It's far, far more complex than "kill or be killed."
Once again, crafting boats, buildings (whether personal or for guild use) that span a wide range of uses, weapons, armor, possibly breeding mounts? You can hire NPCs to mine/gather and more NPCs to sell your goods when you're done crafting them, in the shop you or your guild have built. I don't know the full extent of crafting but I know it's (yet again) much deeper than just "gather mats and make stuff."
They have hyped it up, you're right, but we don't have any reason to think they're lying (yet). Maybe they were wrong all along, and all of these things weren't in the game, but we don't have proof one way or another, so running around crying "wolf" and telling everyone the game is crap is a bit silly.
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So i can do anything i want?
Kill players?
Kill monsters?
Craft?
That's all darkfall is, you people act like you're going to be playing a virtual reality game. Can't wait till reality slaps you in the face.
You obviously have no idea what I meant, so keep your childish comments to yourself.
AoC turned out to suck, and WAR seemed strikingly similar to WoW on crack, but i didnt flame it before it came out.
Insulting people on an Internet forum is fine, but I hope this doesnt carry into your real life, or else your parents shouldve beaten some humility into you.
That's exactly my point. By trying to limit the scope of the discussion by using broad, sweeping terms, you make it sound like each facet of the game is miniscule, which simply isn't true. I'll give examples.
Based on what we've been told, monsters don't just stand around waiting to be killed like in EQ or WoW. They have camps or groups or whatever, but they wander. They kill players, and loot them, and then wear the gear they looted, which can later be looted back off the mob and worn. They are capable of making decisions, jumping, switching weapons, running away and calling for help. Just a few examples.
I'm sorry but this is downright not going to happen. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but not even console games designed around freeform ai have come as close to what they are promising for darkfall.
Looting player items, yes it'll probably be in. The groups wandering? Chances are it will be mob patrols from various points with camps that spawn at XX locations.
You're leaving out guild vs guild wars, naval warfare, fighting while mounted, actual tactics such as using passes or hills for strategic advantage. There are pros and cons for rolling each race, since some races have more allies (and thus more people to ask for help) and some have more enemies (and thus more targets to kill and loot). It's far, far more complex than "kill or be killed."
Guild vs Guild is a function based on the players, it's not a part of the darkfall game. You could very well never have it happen to you at any point in time, or rarely. It could also be daily. Naval warfare should be interesting depending on how smooth the boat controls are, and how important water routes are.
It still is kill or be killed, just because you can choose which side you start on, doesn't add any complexity to that.
And landscape offering positional advantages is nothing new to ANY PvP game, WoW has places that offer the best ambushes, WAR has points which are easier to defend/attack from in every scenario and pvp area. etc etc etc.
Once again, crafting boats, buildings (whether personal or for guild use) that span a wide range of uses, weapons, armor, possibly breeding mounts? You can hire NPCs to mine/gather and more NPCs to sell your goods when you're done crafting them, in the shop you or your guild have built. I don't know the full extent of crafting but I know it's (yet again) much deeper than just "gather mats and make stuff."
Even what you describe is just gathering mats and crafting. If you honestly think it's going to be anything other then, a boat recipe being XX wood XX steel. then your kidding yourself. NPC mining/gathering is something new to mmorpgs, but has anyone seen how they work, will they travel the world finding mats before someone randomly kills them? will they just be a choice to buy and you never actually see them but they invisibly supply wood/ore over time?
At the end of the day your just gathering XX mats, to create XX buildings, and XX boats, and XX armors. It's nothing revolutionary
They have hyped it up, you're right, but we don't have any reason to think they're lying (yet). Maybe they were wrong all along, and all of these things weren't in the game, but we don't have proof one way or another, so running around crying "wolf" and telling everyone the game is crap is a bit silly.
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It's not that you have to think they are lying, it's that the fans have taken the features listed(most of which probably aren't quite as awesome as they make them sound, which really is just developer spin as all mmos have done).
It's that people have taken their features/etc and sort of created a fantasy in their head about what the game is going to be, and it's simply not going to be what they are thinking.
I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
you are a non believer , i am a believer ,
time will tell who is right
BUT
imagine the fans are right and Darkfall dev team is speaking truth.
Will you play it then?
cause i sure as hell will
I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
you are a non believer , i am a believer ,
time will tell who is right
BUT
imagine the fans are right and Darkfall dev team is speaking truth.
Will you play it then?
cause i sure as hell will
If they smooth up the graphics and animations, improve the UI to look less terrible(or offer modding tools).
If they have solid PvE, if they have a large enough playerbase to support the PvP over their landmass. If the game is smooth to play, and not resembling quake 1(which the vid did at points).
Then yes i'll play.
But really you have to look at the features listed, and what the developers have said and then.... TOTALLY IGNORE THEM. Then take the base features from their speeches, look at every other mmo out there, and realize it's going to be similar to how it is in those games.
Look at WAR for example, they let their caged monkey out of the game to hype the game a bit too much, since a lot of the things he said isn't even close to being what he hyped.
I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
you are a non believer , i am a believer ,
time will tell who is right
BUT
imagine the fans are right and Darkfall dev team is speaking truth.
Will you play it then?
cause i sure as hell will
Look at WAR for example, they let their caged monkey out of the game to hype the game a bit too much, since a lot of the things he said isn't even close to being what he hyped.
animations needs to be smoothed, yes. Once achieved, It'll still be more visually appealing than many MMO's.
But your comment about WAR..totally true, although i knew it would be oddly similar to many games ive played.
I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
you are a non believer , i am a believer ,
time will tell who is right
BUT
imagine the fans are right and Darkfall dev team is speaking truth.
Will you play it then?
cause i sure as hell will
If they smooth up the graphics and animations, improve the UI to look less terrible(or offer modding tools).
If they have solid PvE, if they have a large enough playerbase to support the PvP over their landmass. If the game is smooth to play, and not resembling quake 1(which the vid did at points).
Then yes i'll play.
But really you have to look at the features listed, and what the developers have said and then.... TOTALLY IGNORE THEM. Then take the base features from their speeches, look at every other mmo out there, and realize it's going to be similar to how it is in those games.
Look at WAR for example, they let their caged monkey out of the game to hype the game a bit too much, since a lot of the things he said isn't even close to being what he hyped.
Man, you cant fight these guys, theyre blinded by expectations. Its like having a JW show up at your door not to tell you to decide for yourself, but to berate you for being a non believer. Mind you not all of them are like that, but theres a large band of roving fan bois out there trying to send us all to hell for not having the same level of rabid zealotry that they do. I get the feeling though when the game is released, theyll be wiping the froth from their mouths, and strategically retreating in order to come up with more excuses for their god.
I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
you are a non believer , i am a believer ,
time will tell who is right
BUT
imagine the fans are right and Darkfall dev team is speaking truth.
Will you play it then?
cause i sure as hell will
If they smooth up the graphics and animations, improve the UI to look less terrible(or offer modding tools).
If they have solid PvE, if they have a large enough playerbase to support the PvP over their landmass. If the game is smooth to play, and not resembling quake 1(which the vid did at points).
Then yes i'll play.
But really you have to look at the features listed, and what the developers have said and then.... TOTALLY IGNORE THEM. Then take the base features from their speeches, look at every other mmo out there, and realize it's going to be similar to how it is in those games.
Look at WAR for example, they let their caged monkey out of the game to hype the game a bit too much, since a lot of the things he said isn't even close to being what he hyped.
Man, you cant fight these guys, theyre blinded by expectations. Its like having a JW show up at your door not to tell you to decide for yourself, but to berate you for being a non believer. Mind you not all of them are like that, but theres a large band of roving fan bois out there trying to send us all to hell for not having the same level of rabid zealotry that they do. I get the feeling though when the game is released, theyll be wiping the froth from their mouths, and strategically retreating in order to come up with more excuses for their god.
Was i sending you to hel with froth on my mouth?
There is a large misconception in this community about the zealous darkfall fans.
THERE ARE ALOT MORE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM THAT DO A BIG POO ON DARKFALL AND DARKFALL COMMUNITY THAN WE DO ON OTHER GAMES.
Its almost as if it is jealousy of people that love a game and its developpers team.
Why the hell would you want to FIGHT people that love a game???
Darkfall game is the most loved and Darkfall community the most hated ,
why cant you just leave us alone in our adoration of a game ,(even if it is not released)
why the need to continue this slander of the darkfall community.
i mean have you read all the posts on certain sections ? honestly , you cannot ignore the amount of slander DF and Df community get from people like you .
Every day people insult us and our game, , i never insult you guys , neither will i generalise this ' i need to shit on smth crowd to feel relieved'
read the following article fully and learn a bit more of this game,
http://www.lordsofdeath.com/www/?p=12
if you dont want to read and dont care , then why the hell are yuo still posting in darkfall section ,(why dont you go make a second acount and give your hated DF a 0 on hype , and in afew months feel guilty for doing so)
About the UI, I'm not really sure. I haven't seen any pictures including the UI that isn't many years old. Except one scene in the video, but I don't know how much that shows really considering how compressed it was.
I agree with your other point. It's really important that Darkfall gets an early success and with it a solid playerbase cause otherwise the whole concept will fall apart. It's a make or break point for them, getting that foundation to make it work.
Your third point... I don't really get it. Should we ignore all the information we have been given? Anyway, the base features from the game includes things like FFA PvP, Full Loot and other things that will for sure make it not be that similar to other MMOs out there.
Otherwise you are correct, we have no idea how everything will play out and how much of the talk will turn out to be correct. My own personal feeling is that most of the fanatical fans will be disappointed, cause they have their expectations way too high. I still think it will be a good game and make true on its basic principles, and make it work.
I read some of your older posts as well and while you have some good points you still deduct too much. You generalize every feature in a way that is just meant to make it seem not that revolutionary. Every game that is based on violence is at its most basic core about "kill or be killed". This doesn't mean that every game is the same and nothing has ever revolutionized the genre. If Darkfall will do that I just don't know, judging from the video I would say no. Too much hack n' slash.
Your basic point however is right. Darkfall fanatical fans seem to take every mentioned feature, believe it will work out perfectly and then put it into a context where everything is without complications. That's just not it will be. Darkfall will have its flaws, systems will have its flaws and there will most likely be more frustrating aspects with it than any other MMO coming out now, simply because they are not doing the well-known concept made popular by EQ.
At the point of hyping... Aventure has, except for some premature, misguiding beta news and the like, not really been hyping this game in that way. The community has, unfortunately. Like I said, I think many of them will end up being a bit disappointed because they expect way too much. It's enough to get a candy that is your kind of candy and that tastes good, expecting it will give you a never-ending orgasm is just to beg for disappointment.
Maybe. I haven't seen anyone step forward claiming to be in the "Hardware configuration Test", let alone post the email or anything.
Maybe. I haven't seen anyone step forward claiming to be in the "Hardware configuration Test", let alone post the email or anything.
A few have actually, no one believed them, and those threads were swiftly locked. Why would anyone announce that they got in? People have been waiting 7 years to see this game, they aren't going to throw it away.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Hardware configuration test, that's awesome.
Yet this thread is still stickied, and is still entitled "BETA BEGINS"... fantastic.
I'm sure there aren't any Darkfall zealots on staff at MMORPG.com, though.
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I'm not saying it's going to be bad, i'm just saying it's not going to be what the fans are expecting out of it.(which is quite unrealistic if you actually read their posts about the game)
you are a non believer , i am a believer ,
time will tell who is right
BUT
imagine the fans are right and Darkfall dev team is speaking truth.
Will you play it then?
cause i sure as hell will
If they smooth up the graphics and animations, improve the UI to look less terrible(or offer modding tools).
If they have solid PvE, if they have a large enough playerbase to support the PvP over their landmass. If the game is smooth to play, and not resembling quake 1(which the vid did at points).
Then yes i'll play.
But really you have to look at the features listed, and what the developers have said and then.... TOTALLY IGNORE THEM. Then take the base features from their speeches, look at every other mmo out there, and realize it's going to be similar to how it is in those games.
Look at WAR for example, they let their caged monkey out of the game to hype the game a bit too much, since a lot of the things he said isn't even close to being what he hyped.
Man, you cant fight these guys, theyre blinded by expectations. Its like having a JW show up at your door not to tell you to decide for yourself, but to berate you for being a non believer. Mind you not all of them are like that, but theres a large band of roving fan bois out there trying to send us all to hell for not having the same level of rabid zealotry that they do. I get the feeling though when the game is released, theyll be wiping the froth from their mouths, and strategically retreating in order to come up with more excuses for their god.
Was i sending you to hel with froth on my mouth?
There is a large misconception in this community about the zealous darkfall fans.
THERE ARE ALOT MORE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM THAT DO A BIG POO ON DARKFALL AND DARKFALL COMMUNITY THAN WE DO ON OTHER GAMES.
Its almost as if it is jealousy of people that love a game and its developpers team.
Why the hell would you want to FIGHT people that love a game???
Darkfall game is the most loved and Darkfall community the most hated ,
why cant you just leave us alone in our adoration of a game ,(even if it is not released)
why the need to continue this slander of the darkfall community.
i mean have you read all the posts on certain sections ? honestly , you cannot ignore the amount of slander DF and Df community get from people like you .
Every day people insult us and our game, , i never insult you guys , neither will i generalise this ' i need to shit on smth crowd to feel relieved'
read the following article fully and learn a bit more of this game,
http://www.lordsofdeath.com/www/?p=12
if you dont want to read and dont care , then why the hell are yuo still posting in darkfall section ,(why dont you go make a second acount and give your hated DF a 0 on hype , and in afew months feel guilty for doing so)
Well for starters thank you for proving my point, You sound like Chris Crocker defending Britney Spears. If you are so convinced that Darkfall is going to be the greatest accomplishment mankind has ever produced, why do you feel the need to defend it? Insecurity perhaps? Im not slandering DF as much as I used to, not when the rabid fans provide so much more ammunition. I think perhaps I just enjoy riling you guys up so the rest of the community can gaze in awe at the way you guys act about it. Im the match, Darkfall is the fuse and youre the boom.