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WAR or LICH KING....why i canceled my subcription at WAR
Archillez
Member Posts: 25
First, i orderd a collectors edition of WAR, i been waiting for the games since i saw it 2 years ago. i played guild wars then wow..tried some of the free to play which i dont like. im a RPG type of guy..and i love pvp.
first..i wana compare it to the game which was so addictive to me...wow
1.Dungeon..tho they have dungeon in war...i tried the sewer...but there is no sense of strategy at all. All you have to do is let the tank lure,heal it and whack mob. While in heroic dungeon in wow..there is a sense of team play..we even use ventrillo just for the sake of coordination..CC wise.U also need a strategy to kill boses. Raid is even harder.
2.Economy..war has none..wow has a lot
3.laggy..everytime a warpriest cast a spell buff.it lags..and other buff as well.
4.Farming..ok this one i hate so much..but but...wow makes farming addictive...everytime i log in..all i want is get more money.get better gears. do many heroics over and over just to get that drop item. tho i hate it so much..but once u get the item u want..u feel so proud.a sense of accomplisment. wow did some psycological thing on farming which make it addictive even tho ppol hate farming..but still they do it.
5. Skills...come on....i hate war skills..i mean the execution of skill is just not right. someone mention that wow skills is like tetris..he is exactly right..the feeling of it just make it addictive.
i played wow for 1 yr..and i got bored..but in war..i played it about 2weeks..now im bored.
war pvp is awesome..the idea of rvr is nice. but if its the only reason for playing war...then it gets borring easy...
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so essentially you expect the first dungeon in the game to require the same level of skill as the highest end raid dungeons in WoW, there isnt enough farming for you, you havent visited the auction house and you dont like PvP.
I think WAR will survive without you.
Based on your post, a reader would think that WAR and WOW have been equally been available for the same amount of time. But actually, we know that's not true. WAR has only been out for a month, and WOW has been out for few years.
Do you see the error in your judgement now?
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Yikes...
hmmm probably.....well anyway...i got 17 days more to go to change my mind about war.
Yeah, WoW has a good...4 years on War.
I don't think I will be sticking around War for much longer, for now anyway.
I would much rather wait and come back, and see if the game goes anywhere around 6 months-a year after release.
Groovy.
I'm sorry, but the fact that you are complaining that there is no item grind in WAR completely made me stop reading your post. Anyone who can honestly say they LIKE the fact that the sole point in playing WoW is to grind gear, to be able to grind more gear, so that you can then grind MORE gear needs to get punched by a bear.
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My dear OP what you describe are clearly all WoW strengthes. It was clear from the beginning that in War there is nearly no farming (of items, reputation or craft ingredients), no supersmart and hard PVE instances, no economy (because there is no important crafting).
The two points I can agree with you is that the game's performance is horrible and needs to be at least doubled in the next year or Warhammer will fail, and that the responsiveness of skills is not as good as that of WoW yet.
Both above mentioned points will very likely be sorted in in due time. But you my friend, WANT to play a game that is like WoW because you are addicted to its "grind for better items" feature. You wont have fun with another game, so congratulations your game is WoW and you will love the addon.
For me, I like PvP in Battlegrounds (Scenarios) or in the open and I hate Arena Counterstrike twitch fights. I like to be competitive without having to keep up with a raiding guild or a Arenagroup that "works" on a rigid schedule.
I would love for War to be as performant as WoW and to have meaningful crafting and even the odd instance that is more than tank and spank but the above mentioned points are way more than enough for me to move to War. It all depends on taste and you are a WoW player through and through.
Based on your post, a reader would think that WAR and WOW have been equally been available for the same amount of time. But actually, we know that's not true. WAR has only been out for a month, and WOW has been out for few years.
Do you see the error in your judgement now?
And if a person who never played an mmorpg before started playing both WAR and WOW today. Which version of WOW would he be playing? The one from a few years ago or the one from today? Duh.
Why is that important at all? I don't really care whether War has 4 year to do it, or just 2 week ... i am not gimping myself on a lesser feature game just because it is newer.
If it cannot compete with an older game right out of the gate, well, too bad.
I don't choose games because it is "fair". I choose games based on enjoyment and features.
WoW is a better PvE game no question there IMO. Warhammer has more PvP and is focused in that direction. To me the PvP gets boring a lot faster then the PvE journey as you don't really feel like you are going through an adventure in PvP. WoW had good dungeons and economy from the start. It's always been a pretty solid PvE game. As I said in another post most people multi box now though so there isn't anyway to group for instances in the old areas anymore. It somewhat ruins the experience of playing through the game. Hopefully someone will come out with another good PvE game at some point.
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The early level dungeons in WoW are better designed IMO. I don't even like to raid. The small group dungeons are better thought out. I know Warhammer was never meant to be a dungeon crawling PvE game though.
I dont like that the tradeskills are quite lacking in WAR....
can you even make weapons and armor?
or can you only make potions?
War is not a tradeskill game nor do they advertise any sort of complex crafting system (though cultivation is a neat idea but boring). You can make potions, tailesman, and gather a bunch of stuff. All armor and weapons will come from mobs, rewards, bags, and rolls. This is a game designed to be focused on RvR War and not much else. Everything you do in teh game is designed to get you prepared to play against other characters for the RvR end-games.
Though potion making is kinda neat the free flow of ingrediants you can put into it and change the potion every time.
I got a kick out of the fact that you think wow has a "lot of economy". Every shred of credibility you might have had went right out the window with that comment...
That being said, from my level 18 perspective in WAR, it appears even more shallow then WoW, and that in itself is quite a feat. We'll see if Mythic has the ability to make WAR into a lasting mmo, because I sure as hell am not going to pay $15 bucks a month just for a few end game RvR areas and scenarios. IMO, there must be a healthy mix of pve and pvp. One without the other just doesn't create a long lasting gaming environment. To each their own I guess...
isnt every strategy let the tanks take the damage and let the healers heal? so the main thing is let the people do their jobs am i right?
economy? you need to elaborate more on that. besides economy is pointless in games i mean who cares if you have 100gold or whatever in the bank you cant buy anything irl with it.
lag has to be put up with in every mmo.
farming is the same in every mmo.
skills is literally the same in every mmo i believe. you click on the box and watch it happen. the only difference is in conan where you have to execute combos. yet you still have to click the box which made no sense to me but whatever they tried to do something different.
funny how i shot down each of your reasons yet i havnt even played warhammer.
Windows is a GUI made around clicking buttons and having an event occur in responce to that. I'm not sure how you can make it better. Age of Conan didn't really try anthing different then that. All it did was increase the amount of times you have to click in rapid succession. To me thats a just a way to kill your hands and make it so you have no time to do anything strategic. I know WoW interface is slow compared to FPS style in which you target something and click with the mouse, but it does have a lot of abilities that must be used to counter anothers abilities. You can't just spam a button and win. You have to click abilities in reaction to what abilities the other person is using during the fight. Kick for the rogue is a good example of this. You would want to save kick for when someone is casting a heal or a big damage spell. There are abilities to free you from stun/fear/CC/etc are on cooldowns. Everything has to be timed right to win.
Please, real trolls have many posts. On the other hand, takes one to know one.To me it just sounds like the game didnt fit the guy, nothing wrong with that, you can't like all games.
But to the OP: You didnt like the game fine. but you were bored with wow too, you really think the expansion will change that?
Maybe it's time to try a new game until you find ones that fit you, there are many new ones comming out soon.
You are not the only one to get bored after 2 weeks, tho I am sure you will get flamed, if for nothing else then for praising WOW. It has more to do with Pawlows dogs than reason.