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should i comeback?
Crysis420
Member Posts: 43
i'm really considering coming back for WotLK (also WoW is still the most polished up MMORPG)... though i'm wondering if there's still issues with these problems.
AV botters
City spam
Arena balance
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What problems are you referring to? Those? I think they'll always be there in one form or another. If you enjoyed WoW and aren't tired of playing in view of the changes Blizz will be making, then I say try it. If you like it, then it'll be worth it.
If you are not sure you'll like it, wait a bit to see for yourself the changes made and whether you think you'll enjoy them then.
Worst thing to do in any situation is rush a to decison without information.
AV botters is a gamebreaking issue IMO (for me). Having half the team bot and leech honor makes not even playing that aspect of the game fun.
Av botters ...yeah still there
Spam ... yep has that too.
Arena imbalance .... yep , will always be unless you do 5v5 ....not to mention all the hacks in arena ...99% of people dont even know when they've been hacked so it goes unreported.
But if those are your main concerns , they are very small in the overall scheme of things. Plenty of servers run AV premades daily .... that problem is solved.
As for spam , ignore it ... not a big deal.
Arena imbalance .... thats your call. Personally I did quite well in arena with 3 different classes and then quit doing them altogether. I have no desire to arena anymore .... too worn out and too repetitive for me. Arenas just seem like who has the best gimmick or team of the month. Neither of which impressed me on a players ability to pvp. If I had time to 5v5 much, maybe It would have been different , I dunno.
yeah, im thinking of comming back too. i have not played in 4ever, but some recent changes and the pre-order of wotlk are draggin me back in. i just hope bliz does somethin to keep ppl like me who where there pre-bc and experienced the fun of the hge 40-man raids and the badass server-pvp in there.
I don't think that city spam is so bad, the ablity to report spam and ignore someone just by right clicking their name on chat window and choosing the option was a great update. I don't know if you have played after it was added or not.
But arena balance will likely only get worse as WotLK is released since they are doing so large changes to classes and game mechanics. While it's likely that ultimately those changes will lead to more balanced game and arenas, large amounts of changes do usually lead to inbalances at first.
The only thing that get comments in Wow these days is Arena.
But those who say "Arena sucks", are really saying "I suck in Arena".
I challenge anyone to look into the top 500 arena players of the world (out of a possible 10 million) and don't find anyone of his preferred class in it.
You just loose about 50% of your arena fights, that's normal, that's statistics. There is only ONE Carl Lewis (and even he has been beaten now).
So grow up and enjoy the ride (again).
Should you come back?
NO.
Some classes get shafted or have a hard time finding a good team. Mages and Hunters have it bad with the LoS BS... And suppose pallies have had it hard (though aren't they gettign buffed?). I like the concept of arena... i'm also very pvp focused, but it needs fixing. Every class is capable of being on a #1 team, but some classes have a longer harder road ahead of them.
Some classes get shafted or have a hard time finding a good team. Mages and Hunters have it bad with the LoS BS... And suppose pallies have had it hard (though aren't they gettign buffed?). I like the concept of arena... i'm also very pvp focused, but it needs fixing. Every class is capable of being on a #1 team, but some classes have a longer harder road ahead of them.
Wow is a great game however it still has alot of problems.
1) community is very immature in general
2) gear determines who wins 90% of the time in any match..arena or pvp in general (unless you have a druid that can spam cyclone like its his job)
3) The WoW economy is trash...daily gold guides and quest have caused an inflation frenzy for most items that really arent worth their price.
4) Pug's still suck (some are good...if your lucky)
5) the pvpis still unbalanced...because the kids complain about something...blizzard nerfs it..then nerfs everything else afterwards to be fair.
6) 1 warlock can still kite 5 players in AV if they are Aff/Demo
7) Leveling 1-80 to get to the end game pretty much ruins the entire experince of what is WoW. There is no point in reading the lore since everyone just wants to be 80.
8) PVP epics that you spend so much time to grind honor for are absolutely useless in PVE areas...especially raids.
Now i think you get the point ...there are others but ill be nice.
WoW is a great game. And you can go back to it at any time.. however if you do I reccomend a guild and playing with friends. The PVE in WOW is awesome..the raids and the instance design is really good. i think if they somehow fixed the community..and the gear grind and made it more enjoyable and easier to get into groups the game could really shine. But as it stands it takes sometimes 1-4+ hours to get into a group or raid even if your in a guild just to do PVE.
*short answer* Wait untill after exp is released and find out what they have done with it from a friend before going back.
You only give opinions not facts and for anyone playing Wow at the moment most comments are a joke.
1. Community is just like any other community. So unless you are a racist thinking that Wow players are different from other video game players, you’re simply wrong. As a matter of fact Wow is MORE appealing to non video gamers than most other MMORPG because of its mass status.
2. Basic BG gear today (merciless) is 3% less than the highest PvP gear you can get in arena .
Is 3% too much for you ? Rest is skill with all the CC and anti CC available in the game. As proof my brother (top arena player) took on today a half brutal/ half vengeful warrior in a separate fight in AB. His new warrior had exactly 4 epic pieces, all basic (merciless gear) and a poor resilience. Result: he won the fight with at least 30% health left on his 2 weeks old lvl 70. Than he took my just dinged 70 rogue with a poor 132(!) resilience and only the weapons from the basic BG gear – rest are greenies and blues from as early as mid 60’s. He came on top in killings of another AB, slaughtering most other rogues. So the skill of the players do count. As can be seen from the arena competition which is being fought with free same gear for all players.
3. Wow economy is far from a trash. Because? Just visit SW and look how many players visit the AH each day – multiple times.
So you say prices are sky rocketing. Well it is proof that players are interested in paying these prices isn’t it? And the new daily quests which give lot of gold, just assure gold sellers have a very hard time these days.
4. You gave your own answer: “Pugs are not good … but some are good”. ?))
5. PvP is balanced between 3vs3 and 5vs5, and even 2vs2 : proof is there in the arena rating.
Every class is present in the top 500 of the world. IF the PvP were unbalanced the top 500 would consist only of say 1 or 2 classes and it isn’t. Some classes are more represented in some combos yes. But EVERY class has lots of people in it. So balance IS there whether you like it or not. And 1vs1 is not the aim – never was.
6. WL can still kite 5 players. Happy for him, because as a clothy, he hates rogues doesn’t he? It just shows how each class is corrected by other classes in 2vs2, 3vs3, 5vs5 or any other formation.
7. The BIG advantage of the game is that it lets you decide how you play it. NOT all players want just to level as fast as possible. It depends on the player, the mood he is in and what he likes to do most.
8. PvP epics not good for PVE?
That is my pet peeve, you know why?
Because it was a discussion in our guild also. Well I went with my PvP geared Pala (brutal) in the 3 last raids (TK, Mount Hyjal, Mag) and guess who came out on top? ? 2 to 3% more healing than number 2.
The only thing as a PvP geared healer you need to take care of is the lack of mana growth on PvP gear, but this is very easily solved with the potions and elixirs (AH !!! – economy remember?) and trinkets that ease the mana consumption. As for DPS classes it is exactly the same. DPS Palas with PvP gear rule in Kara (demons).
So this answer is again showing you can counter these statements. But you can't counter prejudgement can you?
Be happy there is at least a polished MMORPG, else we would all crawl in half finished and very broken online games.
Some classes get shafted or have a hard time finding a good team. Mages and Hunters have it bad with the LoS BS... And suppose pallies have had it hard (though aren't they gettign buffed?). I like the concept of arena... i'm also very pvp focused, but it needs fixing. Every class is capable of being on a #1 team, but some classes have a longer harder road ahead of them.
Wow is a great game however it still has alot of problems.
1) community is very immature in general Can't really agree here, ever heard of the term, the loud kid in the family? Hell every game got them, and since WoW has 10 mill subs, it's just logic they got more, sadly.
2) gear determines who wins 90% of the time in any match..arena or pvp in general (unless you have a druid that can spam cyclone like its his job) , the stat difference between "welfare" pvp epics and highest Arena season set is laughable small ~ 3 - 5% Also the days of Druid cyclonium is long over i believe, it's been nerfed a few times, feel free to correct me on this part though.
3) The WoW economy is trash...daily gold guides and quest have caused an inflation frenzy for most items that really arent worth their price. Any game face that and the inflation you speak of, isn't an economic disaster, it's just been raised, since players in general have more gold, pure common sense, hence a living economy.
4) Pug's still suck (some are good...if your lucky) bleh i think you should have said pugs mostly suck, but there are a few diamonds among the rocks, remember that but for anything else, guild mates and friends are there for a reason.
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5) the pvpis still unbalanced...because the kids complain about something...blizzard nerfs it..then nerfs everything else afterwards to be fair. Sometimes it's the larger grp that gets their way, however it's not always they are wrong, it's sadly easier to nerf the one class instead of buffing the 8(9) others. Blizzard can overreact to a sudden problem and overnerf a class' new overpowered or bugged ability but they do revert/fix it as fast they can, except for vanilla wow release, where it took them several months to fix all the warrior bugs, by then they became the pvp gods.... And got the nerf bat in face hehe.
6) 1 warlock can still kite 5 players in AV if they are Aff/Demo Warlocks are raid bosses..... joking, i always hated locks too but they have been nerfed, some say too much, others think they need a little more spank from nerf bat, meh.
7) Leveling 1-80 to get to the end game pretty much ruins the entire experince of what is WoW. There is no point in reading the lore since everyone just wants to be 80. It's the players' own fault if he/she wants to keep his/her eyes at a silly lvl guide 50% of the time, i personally always loved lvl'ing at my own pace, without any guides, and visit new places, so it's all up to the player, You are your own lucky charm.
8) PVP epics that you spend so much time to grind honor for are absolutely useless in PVE areas...especially raids. Well there are two sides of the coin, you want the high raiding pve guilds to own the pvp players with their raiding gear? Don't expect 1 set for everything, would make it boring.
Now i think you get the point ...there are others but ill be nice.
WoW is a great game. And you can go back to it at any time.. however if you do I reccomend a guild and playing with friends. The PVE in WOW is awesome..the raids and the instance design is really good. i think if they somehow fixed the community..and the gear grind and made it more enjoyable and easier to get into groups the game could really shine. But as it stands it takes sometimes 1-4+ hours to get into a group or raid even if your in a guild just to do PVE.
*short answer* Wait untill after exp is released and find out what they have done with it from a friend before going back.
Well here i don't have much to add here, you said it nicely,maybe apart from the "1-4 hours to get grp" part. I myself am tempted to return as well but i'll try my best and wait till WotLK is launched instead, or at the least wait till the "before the storm patch".
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