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  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    i was so happy when i was able to buy the game foolishly thinking it would run on my system,
    FYI : the computer can play eq2 on high settings, guild wars, daoc, wow, and many other games btw.
    so anyways.  i get the game installed and patched and and when i push the play button, i get a error occered  warhammer will now terminate.  so as soon as i get this i go in the  debug files to find out what the problem is, i look at the file as it state i fail to reach system requierments because my video card dose not support  VERTEX SHADER 2 ?. funny how ea mythic forgets to put that on the box when they made the game, so i can only assume i need to go out to the store to buy another video card and dish out a good 200 bucks just to play the game.
    ea mythic ,  thank you for making a game that me and many others can't play.  with the developers making a game  where we had hopes to play get crushed due to a little program that can cater to only the people who would by chance have a video card that can be supported by corprate greed.
    good bye warhammer, hello darkfall. i hope this game dose not dispoint as well.

     

    Everyone else has said it and I will say it to.......here it comes......

    Check the system requirements.

    Dont blame Mythic for your own ineptitude. The game installed and runs fine for me. Its good fun by the way

  • banthisbanthis Member Posts: 1,891

    Sorry lorndarken your only the what second person I've seen say anything and he wasn't angry or blamed them he simply didnt know what was going on since he's not a computer person normally.  You obviously aren't either but your one of those get angry and blame someone else types that automatically attacks despite having no idea what your talking about.

    Sad really...Im sure in a week we'll have a flame post that it sucks you have to PvP in order to get Renown Points or that the game is PvP based so the PvE isn't as great as you'd hoped it be.  Or that half the classes need a nerf because you have no idea how to play your class..sad really but...god I hope you play Order.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,978
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    i was so happy when i was able to buy the game foolishly thinking it would run on my system,
    FYI : the computer can play eq2 on high settings, guild wars, daoc, wow, and many other games btw.
    so anyways.  i get the game installed and patched and and when i push the play button, i get a error occered  warhammer will now terminate.  so as soon as i get this i go in the  debug files to find out what the problem is, i look at the file as it state i fail to reach system requierments because my video card dose not support  VERTEX SHADER 2 ?. funny how ea mythic forgets to put that on the box when they made the game, so i can only assume i need to go out to the store to buy another video card and dish out a good 200 bucks just to play the game.
    ea mythic ,  thank you for making a game that me and many others can't play.  with the developers making a game  where we had hopes to play get crushed due to a little program that can cater to only the people who would by chance have a video card that can be supported by corprate greed.
    good bye warhammer, hello darkfall. i hope this game dose not dispoint as well.



     

    So you didn't check the video card, later found out that you needed a more up to date video card, got mad and posted what seems to be a rant.

    Then you say you will go to DarkFall? And if Dark Fall requires a more modern card then what?

    I just don't get posts like this.

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  • markoraosmarkoraos Member Posts: 1,593
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    i was so happy when i was able to buy the game foolishly thinking it would run on my system,
    FYI : the computer can play eq2 on high settings, guild wars, daoc, wow, and many other games btw.
    so anyways.  i get the game installed and patched and and when i push the play button, i get a error occered  warhammer will now terminate.  so as soon as i get this i go in the  debug files to find out what the problem is, i look at the file as it state i fail to reach system requierments because my video card dose not support  VERTEX SHADER 2 ?. funny how ea mythic forgets to put that on the box when they made the game, so i can only assume i need to go out to the store to buy another video card and dish out a good 200 bucks just to play the game.
    ea mythic ,  thank you for making a game that me and many others can't play.  with the developers making a game  where we had hopes to play get crushed due to a little program that can cater to only the people who would by chance have a video card that can be supported by corprate greed.
    good bye warhammer, hello darkfall. i hope this game dose not dispoint as well.

     

    I feel for you mate.

    I know exactly how you feel for I myself had a similar harrowing experience whilst trying to run EvE online on my ZX spectrum.

    Curse those greedy inconsiderate CCP folks for not putting "not compatible with ZX Spectrum" clearly on the box!

    This is a definite deal-breaker for Mythic. We should all boycott their game just to show those game-hardware mafiosos we're not putting up with this anymore!

  • Cochran1Cochran1 Member Posts: 456

    If your card doesn't support vertex and pixel shader 2.0 then you couldn't run EQ2 either because that game requires vertex and pixel shader hardware. A friend of mine bought EQ2 and couldn't play for this very reason. These days you don't just pick up a PC game without looking at the minimum specs, which they have a very long list of cards that are supported and go as far to say that using a chipset other than what is listed might not run the game. Just fyi anything above a geforce mx series card supports vertex and pixel shader 2.0.

  • Tawn47Tawn47 Member Posts: 512
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    yes it was listed with what video cards that may support the game,
    windows xp , check
    2.5ghz  p4 processor or equivalent , check
    1 gb with xp  or more, check
    hard drive at least 15 gb , check
    direct x 9.0 or later and sound check and check
    and in the tiny print, pixel shader 2.0, check with a 128 mb video card, check
    nope, can't find anything about a vertex shader 2 on the box anywhere . hmm it must be hidden like some sorta code where if you take the letters and arrange them in a way you would come up with that.  man i knew i should of brought my cracker jack box decoder ring with me when i was looking at the box before i bought  the game,
     
    thanks guys. ill be sure to do that next time  .



     

    This is where you went wrong. (in red).

    System specs are actually important to properly check, but in any case with an integrated graphics card - you should ALWAYS assume it wont run any games.  (even if some do) theyre not designed for gaming.

    Oh and nobodys saying youre trying to be a 'hardcore' gamer..  but if you want to play games..  youre a gamer at least..  and you NEED a proper graphics card.

    Incidentally:  You don't stand a hope in hell of running Darkfall.

  • KahineKahine Member Posts: 3

     I call troll and complete crap , you do not run EQ2 on High settings with that integrated Intel card that's not even remotely one made for any gaming to begin with 

  • TheutusTheutus Member UncommonPosts: 636
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    i was so happy when i was able to buy the game foolishly thinking it would run on my system,
    FYI : the computer can play eq2 on high settings, guild wars, daoc, wow, and many other games btw.
    so anyways.  i get the game installed and patched and and when i push the play button, i get a error occered  warhammer will now terminate.  so as soon as i get this i go in the  debug files to find out what the problem is, i look at the file as it state i fail to reach system requierments because my video card dose not support  VERTEX SHADER 2 ?. funny how ea mythic forgets to put that on the box when they made the game, so i can only assume i need to go out to the store to buy another video card and dish out a good 200 bucks just to play the game.
    ea mythic ,  thank you for making a game that me and many others can't play.  with the developers making a game  where we had hopes to play get crushed due to a little program that can cater to only the people who would by chance have a video card that can be supported by corprate greed.
    good bye warhammer, hello darkfall. i hope this game dose not dispoint as well.

     

    I was so pissed when my Voodoo II wouldn't run this game!! I mean WTF it ran EQ1 on lowest settings perfectly... F**kin' developers can kiss my f**kin' a**!! M*****q**t*****f*a*!!1!

     

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Kahine


     I call troll and complete crap , you do not run EQ2 on High settings with that integrated Intel card that's not even remotely one made for any gaming to begin with 

    Don't forget about HT&L eq2 definitely needs support for it, which most intel based integrated graphics do not. I find this to be a very skeptical statement.

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  • lorndarkenlorndarken Member Posts: 279

    for all the speculation aside about me being able to play eq2  , it did use up some storage space and the game did lag like crazy but it was still capable of playing.  wana know what kinda computer im running as well ? okay....

    gateway 702GE. maybe that will explain some things.

     as for looking on the box. i did look at the system requirements. if it said i needed vertex shader 2 , then i would of simply not bought the game cause i would of wanted to know if my current graphics card had that to begin with.  but gee willy wouldnt you know. a game that was rushed out for devilery  not to mention it has no mentioning of a vertex shader 2 to begin with wont run because  blah blah blah ect......  but why am i even responding to such childish taunts when someone makes the claim they cant play a game  they get blasted with mocking statements ,, if the warhammer community is like this    in game as  it is   on mmorpg  i can actully thank ea mythic for saving me by

     NOT

    putting me in a world with non mature people aswell.

    normally most games can

      be played if your computer, or graphic cards barley meet the system requirements, 

  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093

    It's funny you are calling someone childish.. because they are pointing out all of your inconsistencies.  It's all ready been mentioned Vertex shader = pixal shader (as far as requirements). 

    You need to chage the title to "Thank you Mythic for an opprotutnity to learn about video cards"

    By a cheap AGP Geforce card.. spend about 50 bucks.. and quit bitching. 

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  • Jefferson81Jefferson81 Member Posts: 730

    The best that you can buy price/performance wise is a nVidia 8800 GT but you already bought a card for $49.99.

    Thats very cheap and must be a budget card.

    Do you think that you will be happy with that in the long run?

  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093

    I don't think the 8800GT is in an AGP format (let alone a PCI (33Mhz)  format) Given the age of his computer, he probably doesn't have a PCI-16x slot.. 

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  • IAmMMOIAmMMO Member UncommonPosts: 1,462
    Originally posted by banthis

    Originally posted by lorndarken


    i've got a  intel 82915G/GV/910GL  Express Chipset Family
    yes it is a older video card , but it is capable of playing many games on it.



     

    ....an integrated video card..well that explains it.   Just because it can run 'many games' and most of the oens you listed are ancient and had seriously LOW requirements in the first place (especially DAoC which is an ancient game) doesn't mean it'll run a brand spanking new game out of the box.  I can tell you right now Fallout3, Diablo 3,  probably even Starcraft 3, Oblivion, Spore, Crysis definitly, will NEVER run on your machine.   I still find it hard to believe EQ2 runs on your machine...my old computer (when the game came out) barely ran it properly.

    Ingrated video cards are NOT made for gaming their made for computer illiterate people who want to surf the internet and write document files.

     

    That's because EQ2 engine is mostly CPU bound. It will assigns what would normally be done by the GPU in other games to the CPU. It was parts of SOE's brilliant plan to future proof EQ2 for 5 years so it would look better as CPU power got better to handle the higher settings, but this move alienated EQ2 from benefiting from the advancement in GPU tech over the years. Now resulting in a game engine that can't do much with the GPU power of today and only improves if you do CPU upgrades.

  • gracefieldgracefield Member UncommonPosts: 279
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    for all the speculation aside about me being able to play eq2  , it did use up some storage space and the game did lag like crazy but it was still capable of playing.  wana know what kinda computer im running as well ? okay....
    gateway 702GE. maybe that will explain some things.
     as for looking on the box. i did look at the system requirements. if it said i needed vertex shader 2 , then i would of simply not bought the game cause i would of wanted to know if my current graphics card had that to begin with.  but gee willy wouldnt you know. a game that was rushed out for devilery  not to mention it has no mentioning of a vertex shader 2 to begin with wont run because  blah blah blah ect......  but why am i even responding to such childish taunts when someone makes the claim they cant play a game  they get blasted with mocking statements ,, if the warhammer community is like this    in game as  it is   on mmorpg  i can actully thank ea mythic for saving me by
     NOT
    putting me in a world with non mature people aswell.
    normally most games can
      be played if your computer, or graphic cards barley meet the system requirements, 

     

    They're not childish taunts, OP. You are the one that came on here screaming and yelling that Ea/Mythic had sold you a dud game and how they'd lied to you on the box and all the rest of it. Now, it turns out that you're trying to play it on a computer that your old granny wouldn't piss on in a fire - the fact is that for an MMO that's only just come out, EA and Mythic have done a bang-up job and presented gamers with a game that they can enjoy and which looks lovely even on a modest machine. That's always been the trademark of good and lasting MMOs.

    I have a modest XFX 8600 GT (256MB) and I can blaze through this on max settings - that's actually a great card for the money BTW, super performance.

    So for heaven's sake stop moaning and lashing out at people and go and buy yourself a computer that a gamer might actually consider being seen dead with!

  • Originally posted by lorndarken


    i've got a  intel 82915G/GV/910GL  Express Chipset Family
    yes it is a older video card , but it is capable of playing many games on it.

    I'm looking at the system requirements on the box right now and it is clear that your model of video card is not adequate to play the game.  The only Intel chipset listed to run the game is the Intel Extreme GMA X4500.  "Please note that attempting to play the game using video hardware that isn't listed above may result in reduced performance, graphical issues or cause the game to not run at all."  I'm sorry, but you are well deserving of the flames you are getting because it is clear that you are the problem here, not EA/Mythic.

  • StellusStellus Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Originally posted by banthis


    Who the heck calls themselves a gamer and owns a video card that can't use Vertex Shader language 2.0?  Hell they're up to 3.0 now.    It was listed agse ago which cards are supported its your own fault for having no idea what your doing.



     

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Sorry PAL but an intergrated videocard wont run anything new. All the games you listed are old and the only reason you can run EQ2 at high is because it uses more CPU power than GPU power, something that it got a lot of whinning for (together with no multi core support it makes the game run less well than it could have).

    Your chanses of running darkfall on it is 0, and the only new games it will run is strategy games. Buy a new card, if your budget is really tight you can get a nvidia 8600 card for 50 Euro or in worst case a 8400 even cheaper.

  • MaxCRNAGEMaxCRNAGE Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by lorndarken


    for all the speculation aside about me being able to play eq2  , it did use up some storage space and the game did lag like crazy but it was still capable of playing.  wana know what kinda computer im running as well ? okay....
    gateway 702GE. maybe that will explain some things. intel 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
     as for looking on the box. i did look at the system requirements. if it said i needed vertex shader 2 , then i would of simply not bought the game cause i would of wanted to know if my current graphics card had that to begin with.  but gee willy wouldnt you know. a game that was rushed out for devilery  not to mention it has no mentioning of a vertex shader 2 to begin with wont run because  blah blah blah ect......  but why am i even responding to such childish taunts when someone makes the claim they cant play a game  they get blasted with mocking statements ,, if the warhammer community is like this    in game as  it is   on mmorpg  i can actully thank ea mythic for saving me by
     NOT
    putting me in a world with non mature people aswell.
    normally most games can
      be played if your computer, or graphic cards barley meet the system requirements, 



     

    Added your previously posted video card...

    Sorry, but you didn't read through the list of supported video cards.  I have the box sitting here in front of me.  One should know to always read the whole list.  After the list, which does not list your chipset, it says...

    "Please note that attempting to play the game using video hardware that isn't listed above may result in reduced performance, graphical issues, or cause the game to not run at all."

    You're right, most games can run at minimal levels if you meet the minimum requirements.  You don't 'barely' meet the requirement.  You flat out don't.  Sorry to break the bad news to you, but Mythic had it right there on the box in black and white.

    Can't be mad at anyone but yourself.

     

  • teknicianteknician Member UncommonPosts: 270

    @ OP- You mention a few times you graphics "card", but what a few people have pointed out is that integrated graphics is the graphics chipset on the motherboard and not a graphics card, such as one you would have in an AGP or PCI slot.

    In your defense, if you look at the specs for the chipset here, it does say it has a max of 128MB of video memory and Pixel Shader 2.0 support, which technically DOES fall at the bare minimum of the Warhammer Online system requirements, though it says "A 128 MB Video Card".

    BUT...it is good you bought a card, even a budget one.  Yes, you can get by, but it's really not the best experience running at the bare minimum.  If you plan on playing any games that are made these days or in the future, especially something like Darkfall, you will need a good video card, period.

  • lorndarkenlorndarken Member Posts: 279

    my computer uses pci exspress for video cards.

  • GimpdGimpd Member Posts: 17
    Originally posted by teknician


    @ OP- You mention a few times you graphics "card", but what a few people have pointed out is that integrated graphics is the graphics chipset on the motherboard and not a graphics card, such as one you would have in an AGP or PCI slot.
    In your defense, if you look at the specs for the chipset here, it does say it has a max of 128MB of video memory and Pixel Shader 2.0 support, which technically DOES fall at the bare minimum of the Warhammer Online system requirements, though it says "A 128 MB Video Card".
    BUT...it is good you bought a card, even a budget one.  Yes, you can get by, but it's really not the best experience running at the bare minimum.  If you plan on playing any games that are made these days or in the future, especially something like Darkfall, you will need a good video card, period.



     

    Most Intergrated graphics also share that vid memory with system resourcews too. It may say 128mb vid mem but it's probably running like 64 mb vid mem for all the sharing it has to do with the rest of the comp. 

     

       Looked up your comp specs and says pcie 16  upgrade  to an actuall vid card for that slot.  I run a nviidi 8500gs run game just fine.  oh and slap a another gig of mem into your comp too.

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