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It's so stupid to examine level 1 player
Larry2298
Member Posts: 865
Everytime when I see a high level with not so nice looking armors examined my level 1 alt, it only makes me think how stupid they are. If a high level playing the game long enough then they would know what was the default armors look like, in addition, a level 1 has a question mark next to their name also told everything. I don't understand why some people even examined twice in a row.
The more high levels doing such stupid examination the more I feel hopeless to the people playing this game because it's too stupid. Fortunately, there are some players did not do such stupid examination but just heal or buff you.
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While i agree it can get annoying when people examine you, no matter what level you are, don't you think you are overreacting just a bit? Calm down man lol.
And if you hate it that much, just filter it out. Problem solved.
Yeah, people are stupid because they don't instantly recognize what your level 1 alt is wearing just by looking.
Maybe they have been out of it for so long they "gasp" forgot how it looks like?
Yet another reason to not let people know when someone is examining the gear they are wearing.
Also as a side note, is it less stupid to heal or buff someone who hasn't taken a bit of damage or is clearly idling about?
You can get a few neat information about a player through examining, like the player's current quest title, not just level and what armor they are wearing. It's a feature for a reason, I agree if it bothers you that much filter it out..
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Not because I am level 1 or level 8 for overreaction. It is basically the matter of common sense. I also figured out that many people used Examine to say hello to you because the text message " xxxxx examines you" displayed on your screen. Apparently, they tried to get your attention but they don't realized that Examine is when you want to check other people's armors and level not to use for other purpose. This exaplins the stupidity.
One other possibility was I played female characters, LOL. I shouldn't be but the Hume Male are so 6ayish. While I playing my first 6ay Hume warrior, my girl friend came by and said it is so 6ay, that's why I changed to female. And the Hume Female looks like a man.
I understand that Hume doesn't mean Human so they could be something else like a fictional race. But I still not used to see a Blonde with black eye brow and black eyes, with pale white lips wearing giant gloves as large as the size of her head.
I don't know about all the other stupid people, but this stupid person will examine players of all levels. I do this because I'm usually a little bored at the time and play to fiddle around with crap. Typically I will just go though my menus. If you wanna talk about my stupidity I will open up the status menu and see my weapon/magic skills, exp, ttile etc then less than 10 seconds later I'll do it again even though nothing had changed. Hell. I am in my bazaar more often then i'd like to admit. What really gets me is I have the bazaar filtered, but the icon still shows up over my name when someone is in my bazaar. I get all excited until I figure out it is just me ... kinda like being scared by a reflection yourself in the mirror, but more pathetic.
As for checking other people out. I do it without reguard to who or what i'm looking at. Most times I am not playing attention so I could potentially cycle back and look at the same person twice. Or maybe i check them out at one end of the zone then we both ened up in the same spot and I just assume it is a new person. I really hate it when I'm in someone bazaar see somehting that I need to buy, but not realize until 3-4 examines later that i needed it, then I have to scavange though everyone around trying to find it ... and this is a challenge since people move.
And for all y'all that wanna bitch about getting examined, deal with it. I am not asking for permission to look at you when it is programmed into the game. Like somone mentioned, if you don't like it, put filters on. Or even better /logout and find real life where people check you out all the time without your permisison.
filter out the the examine notification, problem solved.
Why does it have to be about "stupid people doing stupid things", as you sorta frame it in your first post?
Maybe they're curious what rank you are, and/or what subjob you have, etc... Maybe they're just curious. Even a rank 10 player with several jobs leveled to 75 has to wear level 1 gear when they start a new job.
Why is it a big deal? I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over someone checking their gear, or level, etc... in a game. I mean I realize they do, and its their prerogative. I just don't get it.
Personally, I couldn't care less if people examine me non-stop all day. I keep the examination notices filtered off 'cause it's just more unnecessary spam in my chat log, interrupting what I'm interested in reading. I couldn't care less if people examine me.
In all, Larry2298, almost every post I've read by you so far has been a gripe about the game. It would seem you're unhappy with it, with all the complaining you're doing. Makes me wonder why you're playing it at all.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I agree with WSIMike. Why are you even playing if you complain so much? I don't play the game right now, but when I did I was low level, someone came along and checked me out, then had me follow him to the shops as he bought me upgraded weapon and armor and gave me some money and stuff.
My only problem with the game is running speed... It seems to take hours and hours just to run from one side of a city to another, and then trying to go places out in the world takes forever... It's like giving the character a walk, and then putting a run animation in its place. I wish they would fix the run speed. If they ever do, then I would definitely be playing Final Fantasy XI again.
On a side note, I personally used to examine a level 1 with a "?" next to their head to see what gear they could use. Then kindly ask them if they would like me to help them with some armor for level 7 if they didn't already have it.
Not everyone who examines someone is "stupid". Some people out there examine in an effort to help others...
I know GASP! right?
Your IQ tells you that you may found out a level 1 with lv75 jobs so a smartas like you started to examine every level 1. You never know what the lv1 armor look like because you thought it was highly probability crafted by lv75.
I can tell you why,you just have to be open minded.For one thing many level 1 are alts and have LS,they might be interested in what LS you are.One of the other reasons is because they want to see if a level 1 wit ha ? beside there name has any unreasonable gear,that no way a noob would have.Another reason..lol,is one i often do,is to see just how pathetic a noobs gear is,it might prove he actually is a noob and not an alt,then i help them out in some way ,whatever i can do to help.There is still yet another reason lol,they wouldn't know what class you are and if you have a sub job,they sometimes will check to see if you need a heal or if you can heal yourself at all.They sometimes [applies to level 7]throw PROTECT at you if they see you can cast it on yourself.
The other thing is that you are sounding defensive and guilty of something.Do not start to be like the few idiots that infest games worrying about there gear,that drives me mad to no end.I can tell you right now as a long time FFXI player,GEAR matters less in this game more so than all other games.The only thing that really matters is ACCURACY,items/food/gear.
So next time people examine you,don't feel all guilty that you don't have elite gear ,it matters not.If anyone tries to tell you different,then ask them why RMT can use crap gear all through the game and level EASILY in very fast order.If RMT can do it with total noob gear,i have seen level 1 gear on level 30+ RMT,leveling,then anyone and everyone should have no excuse.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
You have no right to "examine" other players and all you can see were the player's level, last quest title, armors and weapons. Some games allowed you to see such information from other player without need to tell you that Mr. BreakPrivacy just examining you now, some games will asked if you allowed Mr. Curious to see your armors first. It won't be necessary to tell you Mr. LawBreaker examines you now.
The word "Examine" is improperly being used in this game but I think it is ok to display the other player's information on your screen. The feature is fine and normal but not the word "Examine".
Sadly, people are abuse to use this word provides by the game instead of really want to see the level 1 player's armors because the game entitled you with an Examiner which is you are unable to do in real life.
It is obviously being abuse to use such function because for any reason you want to see the level 1 information are no good reason. Considered you wished to performing this function to send the examine message to the player or try to get attention from the level 1.
Since most people denied they wanted to check the level 1 player's information so it has proved that people just wanted to send "Examine" messages to the player.
As I said, it is common to check the other player's armors/weapons and it is not a crime. If examine not a controvitial word then it is stupid to check on level 1 player with question mark. Did I said other levels?
Only stupidity I see is on the OPs part.
Worthless thread, and I don't even need to examine the OP to figure that out.
what heck is wrong with you its just a game its not like there looking in to your window just stop playing if its so bad.......
... Huh?
What are you talking about exactly?
I know what the level 1 armor looks like because I've bought and used it on my own character, for multiple jobs. I've also seen the same sets on other characters.
Similarly, I recognize gear at 40, or 60 or 70, because you see it all over the place and likely end up using it yourself.
When I see someone wearing Leather Armor, running around E. Sarutabaruta, I know that's a level 7 armor set. I don't need to examine them to figure it out. When I see someone running around in Pahluwan armor, I know they're at least level 72 and have done a lot of Assault runs. And so on...
That doesn't tell me, however, what job/sub they have set up (though gear can narrow it down), what jewelry/back/waist pieces they're using, etc. The only way to know that is to either examine them, or ask them outright. Though you can find out their rank and job/subjob by doing a /search for their name as well.
That said, I don't go around "examining everyone". Frankly, most people I talk to couldn't care less if someone examines them. It's not that big a deal.
Are you insecure about your level or something?
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Square Enix implemented the system. It's been in there since the game launched (at least in the US) and it's still in there now.
The only reason it's a problem is because you, for some reason, are getting all bent out of shape over the fact that someone can see your gear/level/title/whatever. So what? They're examining a bunch of pixels on a screen that happens to form your character. Big whoop. You're carrying on like they're spying on you in real life through your bedroom window or something.
The function is there and people are going to use it, no matter how much you cry foul about it.
If it bothers you that much then there is a very simple solution... Turn on the filter that blocks out when people are examining you and then you won't know it's happening.
Short of that, you are going to have to learn to deal with it.
May I make a suggestion? Between this thread and your numerous other ones - including at least one thread ("Dont' waste your money") that you hijacked to complain about the very same things you complained about elsewhere - the only conclusion I can come to is FFXI is simply not for you.
Hundreds of thousands of people have played and do play FFXI and are doing just fine. For some reason, though, it's just not clicking for you. That's fine. Nothing is for everyone.
Of course, if you put as much effort into doing a bit of research or asking how to do something as you do into griping about every little thing on these forums, you might find yourself farther along in the game, having an easier time playing it, and enjoying it a lot more.
Just a thought.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
May I offer you a suggestion? There is one practical way to defense your IQ to examine at level 1 player. Go tell SE to improve the auto target mode. It is not function as it should be.
Oookay...
So you getting your panties in a bunch over people examining you = an IQ issue. Of course.
Was there supposed to be an insult in there somewhere?
What's wrong with autotarget? A mob attacks you, you automatically target it.
Want it disabled? Just type /autotarget off.
To turn it back on, type /autotarget on.
See? Simple.
Here's the problem with your rants here:
1) The whole "people examining you" thing.
You've been offered a solution that will eliminate the "problem" immediately. Simply filter out the examine notices via the chat configuration. Voila. Problem solved. But, no. You'd rather keep bitching and whining about it instead.
2) The myriad things you keep claiming, in various posts, as "broken" or "missing".
Instead of asking "how do I do this?" or "where do I find this?", you bitch about it. Even after people tell you what to do, you continue to complain about it.
It seems to me that either you are looking for attention, or you really enjoy complaining.
If you are not enjoying the game (it's pretty obvious you're not), then simply cancel the content IDs, uninstall the game and move on! There are dozens of other games out there that you might like and that you won't find so challenging to play.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Am I the only one have auto target problem?
When I fight more than one mob, the game not able to add the second mob after I killed the first. It is considered the fight was finished so my character sheath weapon at once. It takes 2 seconds to sheath weapon so if I click on attack, the system tells me <You must wait longer to perform that action> while the second mob still attacking me.
I have to keep clicking clicking and as soon as I am able to attack the second mob, it takes another 2 seconds to draw out the weapon, so my character was underattack for very long time. If I am lucky enough, I may have one whip then died.
I have been fighting 4 mobs in one combat, first 2 mobs, then another 2 mobs joined. It seems that the instance in King's tomb are slightly better because the game adds second target more often, but it is still unable to add the third or fourth mobs.
There is one group of bats most time 2-3 formation, sometimes up to 4 bats at left side tunnel after you step down the entrance.
Since the game unable to add the proper quantity of mobs so the consequence is either to take you time to run back, or taking forever for rejuvenation or lost your trophy if your party been wiped out.
I have tried to Disengage the first mob at beginning but then I gave up because there is another function just used the same icon, same place as Disengage, Call For Help. So when I tried to disengage the first weaker mob to second stronger mob, it turned out to be I was crying out loud for help. So I don't click on disengage anymore. If auto target function as it should be then there will not so many accidents and ready yourself to jump into group mobs.
Do you just not like listening to me or you're ignoring me outright? Let's take what you said from another topic where I explained it to you twice.
You:
I never realized that FFXI is not for PC platform, anyhow, I finally fine tune the camera to nearly acceptable situation, however, the combat ZOOM still sux because the screen is locked and all angles are locked up as well. It's very difficult to see mobs attacking you from behind if you want to switch target. And if you move your character, it is always 90 degree turn.
So a game without AUTO-RUN, without MINI MAP. Are they PATENT of WOW?
Today, I found a very interesting thing. I tried to use BOW, it is another LOL.
To use BOW, you need to click "-" to bring on the menu then select ABILITY from one of 8 different TABS, after ABILITY opened then select RANGE ATTACK, then select your target. SHOOT.
But it is only one shot, if you want to continue the second shot, repeat the above steps. And remember, if you miss click on wrong TAB, the interface will hijacked your mouse pointer to somewhere on your screen, you need to move your mouse to find the pointer but careful because you may lost in the hijacked interface mess brought you to unpredictable situation.
BTW, each arrow cost you 4g to buy, it requires higher skill level for precision. And, most low level mobs per drop is between 5-16 gold.
While you are repeating the steps to use BOW, I am sorry that your target still atacking you.
In combat mode, I also found something buggy or imperfect design, while the Goblin mage casting a spell, my character was not able to move and wait until the mage finishing the cast. It makes the online real time become a TURN game.
Thanks for the tip on how to make money, I have just figured out the way in making money today.
Me:
I'm faulting you for not looking up anything on changing the controls, using hot keys, macros, ect. There is never a need to use he mouse with the game and it has the WASD movement. Here's a tip on when you get a link or aggro. Line up the mobs that are attacking you in front of you, and you'll auto-attack the next mob that is on you.
You:
For example, during combat mode, the system not able to add the second target many times, once a while the system added the second target. After eliminated the first target then my character sheath weapon while second target still attacking me. If the system able to add the second target then my character will not sheath weapon. And it takes nearly 2 seconds to sheath weapon.
So I click on ATTACK again, it appears YOU MUST WAIT LONGER TO PERFORM THE ACTION. This message is riduculous. It is not only to wait for the character to draw his weapon nearly takes 2 seconds but also the delay of stoopid interface.
I also found out while I engaged one mob then 2 mobs joined during the fight, the system only able to add one target sometimes,but most times, the system not able to add target automatically.
While the Orc Shaman casting Stone, then my caharater is freezed to wait for the spell take effect on my character, sometimes, I found it did not freeze so I think it is buggy.
I think I am not the first one to brought such buggy thingy to the forum. The thing is that this game is aging so they only tries to meet the demand for end game and ignore the new player's starting level environemnt. I think all this reasons makes new player have difficulties to continue to play because nearly level 1-10 are all alt of old players. Perhaps I am the only new player to play FFXI 4 years after the game has been released. I am experienced game player but not good at research on configurations setup especially this game is All-In-One design for PS2 and XBOX as well so the default setting probably set on PS2 instead of PC.
I really hope SE will improve the automatic add target as soon as they can because the agro range expanded when you become agreesive to other mobs. I don't mean in this forum but in the game. When your agro grows, all different mobs started to join the battle, a nearby rabbit may join when you attack the sheep and goblin or orc have farther agro range to detect your existence. I think when your level are much higher than the agro will be reduced to zero.
I have tried auto run today, but it is terrible, it is like the system take over your control and the graphics all of a sudden become sux. To use auto run, you have to move forward first then press R, and if you never press S to stop the auto run, the system still control over it, even the left and right become not smooth enough. So it might be better to glue fingers on WASD than auto run.
Hopefully, Japanese game can make more internationally than created a uniqe requirements for mmorpg because it is not patents of WOW to use such common and widely use interface.
Me:
You expect it to be like every other MMO's setup when it was disigned for a console? Everyone here tells you how to change the movement keys and such. I've already told you how to auto-target the next mob if it linked or aggro'd you. Since it's a delay battle system, you're not going to be swinging your weapon at the speed of sound constantly. The reason you can't attack immediately after you kill a mob (unless you time it right) is because people used to exploit the delay system with high delay weapons. That was their fix to it.
We've been trying to help you and you keep ignoring us and complaining of the same thing. If you complain about targeting again, I'll know you didn't read a word I wrote.
To be the best, you must help each other become the best.
FFXI Character: Satimasu
FFXI Server: Valefor
FFXIV Character: Tamorae Fonteil
You are complaining about absolutely nothing... There's more to it then just viewing armor, ls, your comments etc. Also players do it to piss people off. Which is probably what they are doing to you and likely so. It's useless to argue about it, filter if it makes you squirm.
Satimasu, why are you even trying?
This is what he does, and you are just feeding him. He justifies his existance in the world by belittleing and ripping this game that we like. He believes his and only his opinion matters; something that, frankly, is a concept that 2-year-olds have trouble grasping. Really ... honestly ... larry logout, smash your pc into little bits and go get laid ... All the money you would be using for electricity, computer parts, monthly fees could buy you a cheap hooker on craigslist. You are not here so we don't have to listen to you, you are not playing a game you obviously hate, and you are getting some ass ... all in all wins all around.
Wrath of the Litch King is out in a few weeks ... then all this is over since he will be back in WoW.
OK, here is the updates.
1. I can't play any game without uses of my mouse. Now, I am barely able to manage the screen. No more interface issue because it's hopeless.
2. As I said earlier, there are tons of manual controls required from player to balance the poor design. In other games, many freuqnet to use features already there but in FFXI, you need to learn how to use TOOLS to play the game. I relaized this lately.
3. I don't know what do you mean Line up the mob that attacking me in front of Me. The combat scren is locked up, I can only see 30 degree to left and right. It is impossible to see mobs attacking me from behind, as well as the attacking from distant.
4. After I play FFXI then I realized the game is mainly designed for console. When I bought FFXI 2008 European Edition, it says ---- For WIndows ----. I am fool.
5. Delay - I don't care if it is delay or whatever reason, my character sheath weapon during the combat. This means it is not function normal.
Thanks for try to help, anyway. some of them are helpful !!!
Things concerns me now is not interface but the drop rate. I have spent hours to grind sheepskin from wild sheep for ZERO drop. Especially while sheepskin is not rare drop.
Question now:
Am I going to spend another few hours to grind wild sheep for nothing?
It's
OK, here is the updates.
1. I can't play any game without uses of my mouse. Now, I am barely able to manage the screen. No more interface issue because it's hopeless.
It'll grow on you. Just like anything you're not used to at first.
2. As I said earlier, there are tons of manual controls required from player to balance the poor design. In other games, many freuqnet to use features already there but in FFXI, you need to learn how to use TOOLS to play the game. I relaized this lately.
That's what macros are for, and hotkeys, and just being able to type stuff out as well.
3. I don't know what do you mean Line up the mob that attacking me in front of Me. The combat scren is locked up, I can only see 30 degree to left and right. It is impossible to see mobs attacking me from behind, as well as the attacking from distant.
I know people have explained how to take off the lock-on during a fight. And yes, you can still line up the mob by running around the mob until it lines up in front of you with the mob you linked. Just go to the in-game config and look for it. I always have mine off and turn it on during the actual fight when I need to. There is a toggle for it, I don't remember what on the keyboard though.
4. After I play FFXI then I realized the game is mainly designed for console. When I bought FFXI 2008 European Edition, it says ---- For WIndows ----. I am fool.
I guess you are. It is for Windows though, or else it wouldn't work. "For Windows" does not mean for keyboard and mouse controls only. Just get a controller, you'll probably like it better.
5. Delay - I don't care if it is delay or whatever reason, my character sheath weapon during the combat. This means it is not function normal.
It's for the particular mob, unless you have done what I said, they are going to sheathe the weapon or unless you have good timing on being able to manually switch targets right when you're going to finish off the first one. It's normal.
Thanks for try to help, anyway. some of them are helpful !!!
Things concerns me now is not interface but the drop rate. I have spent hours to grind sheepskin from wild sheep for ZERO drop. Especially while sheepskin is not rare drop.
Like I said, some things drop more than others. Use the other drops to fund your sheepskins on the AH. That's one way to do it.
Question now:
Am I going to spend another few hours to grind wild sheep for nothing?
No, because if you don't get any drops, or exp, then it's for nothing. You haven't even seen a bad drop rate yet... Then, you'll see things and be like, stop dropping already!
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To be the best, you must help each other become the best.
FFXI Character: Satimasu
FFXI Server: Valefor
FFXIV Character: Tamorae Fonteil
My very last 2 tthings bothers me very much about screen controls. I will be very happy to ending this.
1. How to make my avatar turn left or right without moving the entire map at same time? Currently, when I press A which is to the West then the entire map also turn around to the West. I don't want the map move with my character but only make my avatar facing the West. Is it possible and how?
2. When I press A or D, it is alwasy 90 degreen turn, it is problem because I often seen the message, you are unable to see your target. So I am always mess around to press WASD to face the target during combat. How to reduce the angle from 90 down to 45 or even less?
Minor thing:
When I initiate Attack mode, is there any way not to Zoom In? I found out if I changed weapon during combat then the Zoom will be disabled and back to normal window view. I'd choose not to zoom in because normal window mode has much wider view, and the screen is not locked up and it is always free to run around.
I don't bother a less to change weapon everytime during combat so it will be good to have this fixed.