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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Originally posted by Larry2298


    Am I the only one have auto target problem?
    When I fight more than one mob, the game not able to add the second mob after I killed the first. It is considered the fight was finished so my character sheath weapon at once. It takes 2 seconds to sheath weapon so if I click on attack, the system tells me <You must wait longer to perform that action> while the second mob still attacking me.
    I have to keep clicking clicking and as soon as I am able to attack the second mob, it takes another 2 seconds to draw out the weapon, so my character was underattack for very long time. If I am lucky enough, I may have one whip then died.
    I have been fighting 4 mobs in one combat, first 2 mobs, then another 2 mobs joined. It seems that the instance in King's tomb are slightly better because the game adds second target more often, but it is still unable to add the third or fourth mobs.
    There is one group of bats most time 2-3 formation, sometimes up to 4 bats at left side tunnel after you step down the entrance.
    Since the game unable to add the proper quantity of mobs so the consequence is either to take you time to run back, or taking forever for rejuvenation or lost your trophy if your party been wiped out. 
    I have tried to Disengage the first mob at beginning but then I gave up because there is another function just used the same icon, same place as Disengage, Call For Help. So when I tried to disengage the first weaker mob to second stronger mob, it turned out to be I was crying out loud for help. So I don't click on disengage anymore. If auto target function as it should be then there will not so many accidents and ready yourself to jump into group mobs.
     

    You see so many of your problems is that you are a noob ,sorry but that is what a true noob is,one who just doesn't understand the game yet.It's no big deal everyone has been a noob at one time,yes even me lol.The thing is this ,you need to WANT to learn for yourself,at least 99% of the game for your self.That is the BEST way to learn that way it sticks with you.

    I can tell you the VERY simple way to fix your auto/target problem.One way is to move your player around so that the other mob is also facing you in your line of attack with the other mob.That way after you kill the first mob,you will not SHEATH your weapon as you put it,you won't have to target/click or lose any time between fights.

    The other problem is that you may want to switch targets between while fighting one.There is an icon in the lower left with all the others that will let you switch target,there is if i remember right a faint blue arrow that will show over top of the mobs head that you are now targeting.Once the new mob is targeted you just hit enter and your locked onto new target.You could set up a macro to make it fast and easy,but you need to take one step at a time and then figure out your macros and how they work.

    You need to quit being so quick to scrutinize something,because there is a VERY good chance the game has been done right and knows all the problems and how they work.There will of course be some things Square Enix has done wrong but i can tell you they are limited ,and you likely won't run into them until you have played a long time.

    I can honestly say that the ONLY problem that is not done right in FFXI that you will run into,is making GIL.So other than making GIL you should not have many concerns right now,worrying about "was it done right or not"most things in the gameplay are done very well,better than most games.

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  • TrexorTrexor Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Larry2298


    Everytime when I see a high level with not so nice looking armors examined my level 1 alt, it only makes me think how stupid they are. If a high level playing the game long enough then they would know what was the default armors look like, in addition, a level 1 has a question mark next to their name also told everything. I don't understand why some people even examined twice in a row.
    The more high levels doing such stupid examination the more I feel hopeless to the people playing this game because it's too stupid. Fortunately, there are some players did not do such stupid examination but just heal or buff you.
     
     
     

    Dont you need to examine someone to check there bazzar? and seeing how most people use alts for theres then its not really stupid at all, SO unless they changed it form last year then you sir are a retard.

     

  • Larry2298Larry2298 Member Posts: 865

     What a speech indeed! But saved them until my last 2 screen problems goes away.

    Anyhow, FFXI is mainly design for console so PC player may have great problem if they used to PC game design. I admit not good at manipulate the gamepad for Up Down Left Right Right Up Up Square Circle fast enough to create a Super Combo. Seems to me that FFXI interface is simulated just like that. 

    I noted that the auto target mode is working conditionally. It's fine. But I think the Zoom In feature should be disabled. It is absolutely not necessary. But again, people playing on TV loves this because it's console.

    Since you mentioned gil, I supposed you don't know very well about the game core. Most Japanese games such as EQ2, Pirates of the Burning Sea are all tied up with very complicated craftings, and that was the trick as well as the locked up combat mode also the trick played by dev. Certainly, it is not your fault but I think it is that poor Auction House just like the problem of Wall Street today.

    I am not advertising for LOTRO here, but take a look at their auction house if you have chance. IMO, LOTRO has one of the best auction house in mmorpg.

    In addition, I have played many other F2P, probably you won't believe that they have much better AH than FFXI. To heating up the economic, you need a good auction house first. Otherwise, some F2P provides Personal Stand to booming the economics which is I think still better than a poor auction house. 

  • Larry2298Larry2298 Member Posts: 865
    Originally posted by Trexor


    Dont you need to examine someone to check there bazzar? and seeing how most people use alts for theres then its not really stupid at all, SO unless they changed it form last year then you sir are a retard.

     



     

    You know, if you want to be a fan of FFXI least you are playing this game regularly but I supposed you don't even have FFXI installed. Your joined the forum to bash other player.

  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553

    You guys are such easy bait for trolls.  Either this guy is either A.) Too stupid to figure out the game or B.) Just trolling you all.  I'm guessing it's C.) Both.

     

    Obviously this game isn't for him.  He doesn't have the patience or sheer IQ level obviously to play the game so i'd really just stop trying to help him.  He bitches about every thing on these forums and obviously dislikes the game. 

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  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564
    Originally posted by Suplyndmnd


    You guys are such easy bait for trolls.  Either this guy is either A.) Too stupid to figure out the game or B.) Just trolling you all.  I'm guessing it's C.) Both.
     
    Obviously this game isn't for him.  He doesn't have the patience or sheer IQ level obviously to play the game so i'd really just stop trying to help him.  He bitches about every thing on these forums and obviously dislikes the game. 

     

    QFT. I fell into the trap, but only part way.

    I realized that no matter what you tell him, he's not satisfied. He either goes on to repeat the same complaint in a different thread, or proceeds to complain about something else entirely.

    And thing is, every single thing he's complained about is either easily explained, researched or, heck, with a little bit of "do-it-yourself" attitude in-game, can be easily figured out.

    I guess it's easier for some to just complain about it.

    So, I gave up on even acknowledging his posts anymore.

     

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  • Larry2298Larry2298 Member Posts: 865
    Originally posted by Larry2298


    My very last 2 tthings bothers me very much about screen controls. I will be very happy to ending this. 
    1. How to make my avatar turn left or right without moving the entire map at same time? Currently, when I press A which is to the West then the entire map also turn around to the West. I don't want the map move with my character but only make my avatar facing the West. Is it possible and how?
    2. When I press A or D, it is alwasy 90 degreen turn, it is problem because I often seen the message, you are unable to see your target. So I am always mess around to press WASD to face the target during combat. How to reduce the angle from 90 down to 45 or even less? 
    Minor thing:
    When I initiate Attack mode, is there any way not to Zoom In? I found out if I changed weapon during combat then the Zoom will be disabled and back to normal window view. I'd choose not to zoom in because normal window mode has much wider view, and the screen is not locked up and it is always free to run around. 
    I don't bother a less to change weapon everytime during combat so it will be good to have this fixed.
     



     

    Does anyone ever read this post as above?

    You think FFXI configurations are capable to do this basic thing? 

    Did I missed someone tried to help with this one? 

     

  • thelawoflogicthelawoflogic Member UncommonPosts: 788

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

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    go there

    and someone did answer you

    Originally posted by Larry2298

    Am I the only one have auto target problem?

    When I fight more than one mob, the game not able to add the second mob after I killed the first. It is considered the fight was finished so my character sheath weapon at once. It takes 2 seconds to sheath weapon so if I click on attack, the system tells me <You must wait longer to perform that action> while the second mob still attacking me.

    I have to keep clicking clicking and as soon as I am able to attack the second mob, it takes another 2 seconds to draw out the weapon, so my character was underattack for very long time. If I am lucky enough, I may have one whip then died.

    I have been fighting 4 mobs in one combat, first 2 mobs, then another 2 mobs joined. It seems that the instance in King's tomb are slightly better because the game adds second target more often, but it is still unable to add the third or fourth mobs.

    There is one group of bats most time 2-3 formation, sometimes up to 4 bats at left side tunnel after you step down the entrance.

    Since the game unable to add the proper quantity of mobs so the consequence is either to take you time to run back, or taking forever for rejuvenation or lost your trophy if your party been wiped out.

    I have tried to Disengage the first mob at beginning but then I gave up because there is another function just used the same icon, same place as Disengage, Call For Help. So when I tried to disengage the first weaker mob to second stronger mob, it turned out to be I was crying out loud for help. So I don't click on disengage anymore. If auto target function as it should be then there will not so many accidents and ready yourself to jump into group mobs.



     

    Do you just not like listening to me or you're ignoring me outright? Let's take what you said from another topic where I explained it to you twice.

    You:

    I never realized that FFXI is not for PC platform, anyhow, I finally fine tune the camera to nearly acceptable situation, however, the combat ZOOM still sux because the screen is locked and all angles are locked up as well. It's very difficult to see mobs attacking you from behind if you want to switch target. And if you move your character, it is always 90 degree turn.

    So a game without AUTO-RUN, without MINI MAP. Are they PATENT of WOW?

    Today, I found a very interesting thing. I tried to use BOW, it is another LOL.

    To use BOW, you need to click "-" to bring on the menu then select ABILITY from one of 8 different TABS, after ABILITY opened then select RANGE ATTACK, then select your target. SHOOT.

    But it is only one shot, if you want to continue the second shot, repeat the above steps. And remember, if you miss click on wrong TAB, the interface will hijacked your mouse pointer to somewhere on your screen, you need to move your mouse to find the pointer but careful because you may lost in the hijacked interface mess brought you to unpredictable situation.

    BTW, each arrow cost you 4g to buy, it requires higher skill level for precision. And, most low level mobs per drop is between 5-16 gold.

    While you are repeating the steps to use BOW, I am sorry that your target still atacking you.

    In combat mode, I also found something buggy or imperfect design, while the Goblin mage casting a spell, my character was not able to move and wait until the mage finishing the cast. It makes the online real time become a TURN game.

    Thanks for the tip on how to make money, I have just figured out the way in making money today.

     

    Me:

     

     

    I'm faulting you for not looking up anything on changing the controls, using hot keys, macros, ect. There is never a need to use he mouse with the game and it has the WASD movement. Here's a tip on when you get a link or aggro. Line up the mobs that are attacking you in front of you, and you'll auto-attack the next mob that is on you.

    You:

    For example, during combat mode, the system not able to add the second target many times, once a while the system added the second target. After eliminated the first target then my character sheath weapon while second target still attacking me. If the system able to add the second target then my character will not sheath weapon. And it takes nearly 2 seconds to sheath weapon.

    So I click on ATTACK again, it appears YOU MUST WAIT LONGER TO PERFORM THE ACTION. This message is riduculous. It is not only to wait for the character to draw his weapon nearly takes 2 seconds but also the delay of stoopid interface.

    I also found out while I engaged one mob then 2 mobs joined during the fight, the system only able to add one target sometimes,but most times, the system not able to add target automatically.

    While the Orc Shaman casting Stone, then my caharater is freezed to wait for the spell take effect on my character, sometimes, I found it did not freeze so I think it is buggy.

    I think I am not the first one to brought such buggy thingy to the forum. The thing is that this game is aging so they only tries to meet the demand for end game and ignore the new player's starting level environemnt. I think all this reasons makes new player have difficulties to continue to play because nearly level 1-10 are all alt of old players. Perhaps I am the only new player to play FFXI 4 years after the game has been released. I am experienced game player but not good at research on configurations setup especially this game is All-In-One design for PS2 and XBOX as well so the default setting probably set on PS2 instead of PC.

    I really hope SE will improve the automatic add target as soon as they can because the agro range expanded when you become agreesive to other mobs. I don't mean in this forum but in the game. When your agro grows, all different mobs started to join the battle, a nearby rabbit may join when you attack the sheep and goblin or orc have farther agro range to detect your existence. I think when your level are much higher than the agro will be reduced to zero.

    I have tried auto run today, but it is terrible, it is like the system take over your control and the graphics all of a sudden become sux. To use auto run, you have to move forward first then press R, and if you never press S to stop the auto run, the system still control over it, even the left and right become not smooth enough. So it might be better to glue fingers on WASD than auto run.

    Hopefully, Japanese game can make more internationally than created a uniqe requirements for mmorpg because it is not patents of WOW to use such common and widely use interface.

     

    Me:

    You expect it to be like every other MMO's setup when it was disigned for a console? Everyone here tells you how to change the movement keys and such. I've already told you how to auto-target the next mob if it linked or aggro'd you. Since it's a delay battle system, you're not going to be swinging your weapon at the speed of sound constantly. The reason you can't attack immediately after you kill a mob (unless you time it right) is because people used to exploit the delay system with high delay weapons. That was their fix to it.

     



    We've been trying to help you and you keep ignoring us and complaining of the same thing. If you complain about targeting again, I'll know you didn't read a word I wrote.

     

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