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Zealot or shaman dps/healing which ones better?
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Between shaman or zealot which ones better for healing and dps. So far i like zealot she does some good healigng and dps. However i heard shaman did better because of waaag for dps or healing im about to make a shaman right now.
So which one?
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Both are pretty weak for dps and good for healing with the zealot having a litle edge from what I have noticed, both of them can kill a mob on their own and finish quests but dont expect to go into RvR with any of them and just kill people its not gonna happen, you might ditch out the ocasional dmg to the dieing foe but thats it.
hmmm.. so zealot is a lil better
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Here's the deal. shaman are better at single target healing and DPS. They get a few group spells, but not many. Zealot can spec for full AE spells.
Zealot does not do well in damage. It's an illusion. you won't be getting many killing blows in scenerios. as a shaman you will.
A zealot is good at spreading out damage and heals across many targets. A zealot can cast mulitple HoTs on many different targets in half the time it takes a shaman to.
A Shaman can blast a person with a huge heal much better than a zealot. Im finding that zealots are not that great at burst healing unless you specific spec under the single target path. Shaman are on the other hand.
My suggestion. Roll shaman if you want to dish out more damage over. People get pissed off when tey see Zealots trying to DPS also. People ignore a shaman who DPS.
Shaman hear, I can deal some decent damage, and being geared, moraled, specced towards healin i can hold my own on that front.
Using the "Cower" skill + my damage absorption shield, and self-heal I can stand a pummel until the zerg around me beats them up for me.
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Shamans are 10 times harder to kill than Zealots. As an order player I can tell you shamans are a much bigger problem than the Zealots. They AE knockback, they have this immunity buff, they debuff and dish out quite a lot of damage an in addition they also heal for practically the same as the zealot.
If the enemy force rely on Zealots to survive then we can quickly kill them and after that their casters and later tanks. If its shamans then we rarely get past the kill-the-healer step.
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Well I currently play a DR zealot and the damage potential (its all AOE mind you) is second only to sorceress on destro side. Brother plays shaman and when I have him covering my back with healing I can wreck havoc to entire order groups, leaving half dead remains to be picked up and finished by single target DDs. And of course its still possible to be a fully capable healer with a simple tactics change.
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funny how dok's are not mentioned in this thread as a question by the op.
but id exspect as much, No Respect. just like rodney dangerfield, no respect !!!! whats this world coming to , huh ?
lol jk . um seeing both zealots and shamans do their thing, i can say this for sure
in terms of dps amongs all three healers, doks, shams, and zeals
doks do the most damage
2nd most dps im pretty sure its the sham, cause i have seen them kill things that got me going, okay . right on little man !!!
so in 3rd it be zeals
as for heals i know this is easy cause zeals just never stop, they can heal heal heal.
2nd best in heals would be sham ,
and 3rd the dok.
this is the way i have come to see it in most fights out in rvr and pve pq's , i could be wrong so please correct me if i am.
I disagree big time.....Zealots are WAY harder to kill....having much better on the run healing spells as well as a shield proc ability that practically procs every 3 sec while being hit....Shaman heals also are no where near as good as zealots. Unless your Waaagh is blasted up there heals arent as dependable as zealot....the biggiest shaman and archmage weakness for healing is there lack of instant heals so when your tank is at 30% and getting pounded on it really all dpends on luck if you can save that guy cause by the time you throw off a big enough heal to save his ass he'll be dead.
The only thing AM and shammies have going for them is the DPS...It can really be good (if u spec DPS or have the gear for it). Also there are pretty much the best 1 vs 1 classes in the game (which rarely happens but its still kool to be)
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DoK/WP should be the stronger 1v1 class.
My zealot is spec'ing for DPS. It's funny. It's not very good, but the challenge is amusing.
Yeah, my main is Order so I don't really feel too badly when we lose a scenario or I see some stupid marauder die, because I'm too busy nuking down an Engineer. I toss out my HoT on targets in the front and then get to work blasting.
But honestly, I still only really lose when we are outleveled. Levels and gear is pretty much everything in this game.
If I see a goblin shaman get jumped though, I always try to heal them as much as it takes. They watch my back, I watch theirs.
Of the two, which is better? It's tough to say. I think Zealots bring alot more utility when they chose to bring the DPS, though the Shaman should be able to do more of it.
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I just rerolled from Zealot to Shaman in order to maximize my healing just a bit more. Looking at the spells themselves, the classes are almost identical. What drastically seperates the two is the mastery paths.
All in all, I was very disappointed with the Zealot's mastery lines. Combining DPS and healing abilities within each line just didn't fit very well with the Zealot as they don't have very strong incentive to DPS inbetween their heals. The Zealot mechanic, the rituals, also doesn't function as well as it does in PvE. Placing them often becomes an afterthought unless there is another healer to pick up the slack while you find an effective spot to place them.
Shaman, on the other hand, have more traditional mastery lines for a healer in that their DPS, healing and utility lines are divided just like that of WoW's Priests. They can squeeze out just a touch more healing since they don't have to choose between buffing their 3-second heal, their group heal, or their HoT.
If you're looking to absolutely min-max your healing, I would say Shaman holds an advantage. If you're looking to balance your healing and DPS a little more, which it sounds like you are, then pick one based on looks because they're both fine classes.