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Dark Knights Start in Tortage!?
NotNiceDino
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So I was looking over the Death Knight stuff, and it looks to me like they start in a Limited-Access newbie hub and have to do a mandatory 36 quest chain (all instanced) to advanced. Odd choice for Clizzard, because it sounds EXACTLY like Tortage. It's odd, because someone in another thread just praised the fact that in WoW you don't have to "follow specific path to escape Newb Island." But then again, Tortage was the only thing AoC did right (by "did right" I of course mean "finish developing"). In the quest chain looks fun, but it just seems like an odd direction. I was wondering if anyone has palyed it and what they thought of it?
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Dude!? Did I say Dark Knight?
Um... I meant Death Knight... Freud would say I was in love with Batman... which may be true.
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Please do not feed the troll.
You mean you? Ok, I won't. Oh damn!
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I'm going to feed the troll
Death Knights don't start at level one like other classes. In other classes you have 10 levels before you have to figure out what to do with talents. Also your skills are added at a very steady and slow pace. For a lvl 1 character, you don't really get overwhelmed with 'choices'.
Death Knights are different. Starting at lvl 55 gives you 46 talent points to place and you get a TON of skills and abilities thrown at you all at the same time. In order to ease some of that 'shock'.. you get your own leveling area for about 3 levels. The quests and encounters are designed to introduce you to your new abilities in a very controlled way.
All of that aside.. the DK starter area is one of the best questing areas anywhere in the game. It is full of lore and really tells your story of the break from Arthas. I think when you say you follow a 'set path to escape newbie island' you aren't taking in the lore of DKs. DKs are created by Arthas and controlled by Arthas.. you have to have some kinda quest lore to show the break from him.
The area is so good, I bet a large number of players will create more than one DK just so they can experience it again. Also the zone is not really instanced.. you play alongside other people playing DKs.
Cool, it LOOKS like fun, it just seems a odd direction for WoW, so I wanted to hear from people that had done it before (how that can POSSIBLY be interpretted as trolling is beyond me).
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How some people might think you are a troll?
Comparing any game to AOC is trolling.
The Death Knight starting area is also where Blizzard first starting using the phasing technology that really allows you change the gameworld based on completing quests. it's hard to explain.. but it's definitely a 'holy crap' moment when you first experience it in game.
That's a little harsh... I'd be more apt to say that calling someone a troll without even reading the intent of the message (which you obvious did, so I'm talking to Papy, not you) is trolling.
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Getting away from turning this into "where is the troll", in the beta I've played through the DK starting area and have to say it was some of the most enjoyable questing I've done in WoW. What's really neat is the progression, it starts off and the DKs only have a encampment and then slowly as you do more quest they begin to advance on the city burning farms and other things on the way. The quest are alot of fun too and you get a crash course on DK plus a full set of 55 blues. The quests are unique and very well done, one time you might have to steal a horse to be turned into a death charger, another you'll be throwing fireballs from a flying dragon, and in yet another you'll be sneaking aboard a ship and firing it's cannons at the crew. It didn't really feel so contaned in the beta and once your done, took me about 2 hours and I took my time, you'll be 58 and on your way to a capital city.
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Im going to feed the troll, how can death knight be a hero class if its just another regular class and will be balanced against regular classes. The next expansion will probably have a demon hunter hero class..blizzard really is a shitty company.
How were you trolling? Ok, let's break it down. You called it a Dark Knight in the title. Could have been an honest mistake, but when taken with the rest of your post, it didn't seem that way to me. Also the zone is not called Tortage, that's in AoC and right away seems to be making fun of WoW when you post that in a WoW forum.
"So I was looking over the Death Knight stuff..."
Did you change this after the fact? If so, why haven't you changed the title?
"...and it looks to me like they start in a Limited-Access newbie hub and have to do a mandatory 36 quest chain (all instanced) to advanced. Odd choice for Clizzard..."
It' Blizzard. Again, if that was a simple typing mistake, my bad. Correct it. Seemed like a shot at the company to me.
"...because it sounds EXACTLY like Tortage."
Except for the fact this is the ONLY class that starts this way and it starts this way because it's a hero class and unlike the other classes they start at level 55, not level 1. So it's similar in some regards, but not EXACTLY like Tortage.
"... It's odd, because someone in another thread just praised the fact that in WoW you don't have to "follow specific path to escape Newb Island."
It's not Newb Island because you have to have an existing level 55 character before you can create a Death Knight class. The quests and mobs are level appropriate for a level 55 character and you quickly move from this area into the existing world, there's nothing newb about it. And exactly which thread are you referring to that praised WoW? Before this thread you had not posted a single thing in 5 months. When you last posted you were posting in the AoC forums and were defending it against people who were saying that it didn't have an open world like WoW. You're first post after a 5 month layoff specifically targeted an area of WoW that you don't know a whole lot about and hasn't even been implemented yet and were comparing it to AoC. Seems to me that the thread you were referring to is the one that's 5 months old. Now you didn't actually say that the comment was a current one, but you made it seem like it was with your comments. So rather than commenting on a current thread, you seemed to be making a comment about a 5 month old thread. A thread in which you were defending AoC for having a "closed" world. Why did you defend AoC 5 months ago for this and now you're saying that it's a odd choice for Blizzard?
Now, maybe I have misjudged you and if I did, I apologize. But honestly, I don't think I did. I think you were trolling and when I called you on it, you quickly backed off of it and acted as if I were attacking you. Well you may have fooled some of the people, but I still think you were trolling.
That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
The reason it's called a hero class is because they're using the hero templates from WC3 as a preset, the original intent with the classes was to have them be a tad more powerful than the rest but that intent changed with time.
It looks to me as if the feeder became the troll, alas.