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Darkfall live playtesting at ADW
Straight from Forumfall, thanks to Lazor:
This is what the PC Master (a greek game magazine) forum admin and chief editor _Kuv_ had to say (shitty google translation):
Well guys just come from, the first substantial presentation of the world live Darkfall Online, in Gkazi:) I want to say that the videos have emerged which does not flatter the game - we saw the game live (in beta server with a few people of course), and is much more polished graphics.
Overall I would describe the game hardcore, with very interesting ideas and proposals I hope to go all right, because all will be judged when it warms up the game and people will go through ...
Whoever asks with the classic "is better than WoW ????", wins ban a day from me.
Λοιπον παιδια μολις γυρισα απο την, ουσιαστικη πρωτη παγκοσμια live παρουσιαση του Darkfall Online, στο Γκαζι 
Θελω να πω οτι τα βιντεακια που εχουν βγει ΔΕΝ κολακε?ουν το παιχν?δι- ε?δαμε το παιχν?δι live (σε beta server με λ?γο κ?σμο β?βαια), και ε?ναι πολ? πιο polished τα γραφικ?.
Γενικ? θα χαρακτ?ριζα το παιχν?δι hardcore, με πολυ ενδιαφερουσες ιδ?ες και προτ?σεις- μακ?ρι να π?νε ?λα καλ?, γιατ? ?λα θα κριθο?ν ?ταν αν?βει το παιχν?δι και θα μπει κ?σμος μ?σα...
Οποιος με ρωτησει το κλασικο "Ειναι καλυτερο απο το WoW????", κερδ?ζει ban για μια ημερα απο μενα
EDIT: added post in greek and fixed up translation a bit, thanks DarthRaiden.
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
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*snicker*
/grabs popcorn
/awaits the posts
To be fair is a description of PC games magazine Forum admin who claims to have attended the event.
Edit: ok sorry i see OP has the original source linked
-small correction to translation
Me lijo kosmo = with fewer people
so "with litle world" is wrong.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Apparently he is also the editor of the magazine.
Hopefully there will be a more substantial review of what was presented in a few days. I guess I was hoping for a bit more information anyway.
better than nothing i guess
So...someone "saw" the game live. Did they PLAY it? Is there a public beta date? Release date?
Hopefully, this is just a very early report with much more to come...
Is pot legal over there because i can't make anything out of that review, Maybe it's google thats on crack.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Sounds more like a public spin then an actual review... maybe it got missed in the translation, but to me it sounds like he saw the same gameplay footage and merely reiterated what was previously said.
This "Admin and Chief" took no pictures or offscreen video of the event you could post? That'd be far more convincing then him saying he's going to ban non-believers.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
It was a simple forum post about that he was there and summarize of his impressions.
He clearly stated it was very different and nothing like the published videos we know and he talks about Beta Server with few toons on them (of course just few - DarkFall crew on this Event,/Visitors ? we don't know ) and about "interesting features" and about game being literally "hardcore" nothing more but nothing less too.
You have to buy his magazine for a full review if he writes an article about.
I see yourself rather typing short statements in Forums then articles, right ?! I sure if he would know he is a source for us he even wouldn't have made his comment or take into considaration that a broader audiance is listening.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
so yeah i watched this footage a couple months ago.
so no news.. bleh.
Khael[SUN]
SUN - peekayin since pong
Webdeveloper on:
http://www.guildofsun.com
http://www.bloodmonarchy.com
"A more detailed post is on the way, with some pictures." Brannoc
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
This link has some pictures from the event... not sure if any of them are playing Darkfall in the background or not.
www.pcw.gr/Article/Latest/athens_digital_week_pcworld_pcwgr_booth/179-3616.html
Some more just posted as well"
" Originally Posted by Shaar
Ok I guess you’ve all waited long enough for a little something. Not enough time for more right now but a video and some more pics will be made available as soon as I can unload it all from my dv camera…
The event was great, about 120 people watched the presentation although at first Tasos feared there would not be many people because of the day an hour it took place. The game was there, running live, over the internet and not some offline version. Performance is great although I don't know what kind of machine they were running it on and it was running for a good hour I think without crashing, glitching or showing any other problems. Right at the end of the presentation the game seemed to crash to the desktop and everyone when uh-oh. But the message that poped up was that the connection to the server had been lost… Greek internet connections ftw.
The big news that I was told I can share with the community is that OPEN beta will be FINISHED by the start of December and release will follow soon after. So… stay on your toes.
Here are some pics.
New Darkfall Banner
A Dev worshiping a Darkfall Banner
Presentation underway
Tasos and Kjetil getting everything ready The short one is me keeping my eyes on the monitor the game is running on."
from this link:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
"OPEN beta will be FINISHED by the start of December and release will follow soon after"
There you have it ..an official date, the next 1,5 -2 months will be very busy
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
It was played live infront of them. Did you even look at the pictures? It was running through the internet, not on an offline server, being played right infront of them by devs.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Actually... 3 game companies ago I wrote articles. If you want to see them, they're published here on MMORPG.com, not some minor magazine. They're cross posted across several major MMO publications and RPG websites.
So if you're comparing the company I worked (which failed) for who had articles that I wrote that was published on sites like IGN, Warcry, MMORPG.com, MMOSite, and a few others... and Aventurine who hardly gets recognition anywhere... I'd wonder where you think you're going to win this argument.
I post here to let people know the trials and tribulations of trying to create a game of this type...
And, of course, if you don't like my posts, you're welcome to block me. You're also welcome to report me, but you'll find I've not broken the EULA or lied.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Actually... 3 game companies ago I wrote articles. If you want to see them, they're published here on MMORPG.com, not some minor magazine. They're cross posted across several major MMO publications and RPG websites.
So if you're comparing the company I worked (which failed) for who had articles that I wrote that was published on sites like IGN, Warcry, MMORPG.com, MMOSite, and a few others... and Aventurine who hardly gets recognition anywhere... I'd wonder where you think you're going to win this argument.
I post here to let people know the trials and tribulations of trying to create a game of this type...
And, of course, if you don't like my posts, you're welcome to block me. You're also welcome to report me, but you'll find I've not broken the EULA or lied.
You have read too much in my comment .
My comment was sort of ..Is that post you just made a review or article ? of course not, it is a post giving your opinion on a subject in a forum.
Like the editor/admin did with his post. He just gave a short comment/opinion in form of a forum post. he was not thinking of "wait some folks from MMORPG.com will quote this, lets give them a full story and well written article about what happened at the event with Aventurine". Not to mention he would never think of it because he used greek to make his post .
Also i said then if you really expect an very well written article of that editor, then you have to take a look at the magazine not his forum post.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
How does it sound anything like that? I really hope you do not have to take any reading comprehension test soon cause otherwise you are screwed.
Actually... 3 game companies ago I wrote articles. If you want to see them, they're published here on MMORPG.com, not some minor magazine. They're cross posted across several major MMO publications and RPG websites.
So if you're comparing the company I worked (which failed) for who had articles that I wrote that was published on sites like IGN, Warcry, MMORPG.com, MMOSite, and a few others... and Aventurine who hardly gets recognition anywhere... I'd wonder where you think you're going to win this argument.
I post here to let people know the trials and tribulations of trying to create a game of this type...
And, of course, if you don't like my posts, you're welcome to block me. You're also welcome to report me, but you'll find I've not broken the EULA or lied.
Everything this guy is involved with fails. Ignore him. He has no credits anywhere, because all his opinions are wrong.
it never ceases to amaze me that the Darkfall community will fall to the falacy of attacking the individual over his perception or idea.
This, my friends, is one of the poorest communities on the Internet. If I was a sane Darkfall fan, I would remain as quietly in the shadows as possible to avoid the idiocy that runs rampant within that community.
You will hurt Darkfall even more with your attitudes to chase anybody away who does not agree with you, then any "vaportroll" could dream of doing.
In the meantime, I stand by my assertion that the game will fail to deliver on most of it's promises.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Heh... I won't touch you other subject here CG... but you did remind me of another time when this sort of attitude raised it's head.
UO with the release of the Trammel server.
The hardcore PvP'er were very vocal in telling the "carebears" to just leave if they didn't like the ganking. Well they did... in droves. Eventually so many left that the open PvP side was a ghost-town.
Instead of blaming their own attitudes for driving most everyone away... they blamed the game for opening up Trammel in the first place.
Hopefully those same attitudes don't condemn Darkfall to the same fate.
I think the Darkfall Devs. are very cognizant of the fact they have to balance newcomer's experience and those that like FFA hardcore PvP. Hopefully they will be able to avoid the mistakes that UO and Shadowbane made.
Having in your sig that your a lead dev for another MMO doesn't help your case much. Your negative posts and such will merely be shrugged off as Viral Marketng. I am part of the DarkFall community and I don't recall personaly attacking you or simply saying anything negative about you. Yet you seem fit to pass judgement on me as part of the DarkFall community. I am just wondering how that works. I mean I am sure if your going to be upset with someone insulting you or something similar you would not do so to others, yet here you are insulting a community without just cause or am I mistaken?
The stuff you have said about Aventurine and there publisher kind of go against what you say here.
"I feel bad that you were ripped off by SWG. But to say because one Development House did it, all do it, is a very poor fallacy.
We are not SoE. We are not Lucas Arts. I cannot speak for those companies, so I do not.
So whether or not you decide to listen to the hype, we'll continue to make the game envisioned, and you may see for yourself when we reach Open Beta."
This one has some good advice for you
"I'll tell you what I learned:
Most gamers who post on Forums think they can do better then the Developers at any given task.
My biggest problem with this is that they never actually DO. They sit on their hands and say "Yeah! You suck! I can do better!" and then go play somebody else's game. They're nothing but users...
What I learned is that if I want it done the way I want, I have to do it myself. So unlike most average gamer who posts on Forums, I went and found money, and people, and wrote up a design Doc.
Does that make me better? I think so... it means I want to "sow the seeds of change", instead of waiting around for somebody else to do it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is:
If you think you can do better, get off your ass and make the attempt. Otherwise: sit down, shut up, and stay out of the way of people who want to.
In addition: What have you done to better the situation?"
Then your credibility gets shot.....Your a liability for the company you work for as well as working in a field you said you wouldn't do again because it's a dead end market.
"There were several outdoor areas. They weren't finished and they wouldn't let me take screenies to release. Trust me, if I had the screenshots I DID take right now, I'd plaster them all over the net for you people to laugh at.
I haven't changed my nick in ages... that's a shadey practice people use to escape their past instead of learning from it. Maybe you do that, but I'm above that.
...and I'm not making MMOs. It's a deadend market for 90+% of the games."
And I guess you want us to forget that from the time you heard about DF you have constantly called it Vaporware and that it wasn't worth paying for. I will give you that I can't recall you using the term Vaporware but a rose by any other name is still a rose. You are strictly anti DarkFall your post history can prove this. You may try and be clever about it now but truth is truth and fact is fact. So as far as I am concerned you have earned any lumps you may have recieved. You have stated you won't be playing DarkFall, fine..... why exactly are you here then?
In any case I have no love nor hate for you. I am a DarkFall fan and part of the community. I believe the game will deliver on most of it's promises, I mean just because "The Chronicle" couldn't doesn't mean DarkFall won't.
If you have questions or wish to debate an issue or don't like something thats fine, post it an people will reply. If you merely have no intrest in the game "Which you have already pretty much stated" then it might be best to move on. Saying over and over that it will fail or that it is Vaporware is trolling and will only get you negative responses from the community. You should know this, if you didn't now you do.
Mmm, blatant generalization of a huge community followed by an 'assertion' that is nothing more than speculation on your part.
Game may fail, game might not. The videos (check the most recent gameplay vid), screenshots, interviews (over 10 million euros into the game so far) etc. make me believe it will be a solid game. Definitely not perfect at launch though.
But I can't wait to see what this unnamed MMO is that you're working on.. Kisses.
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Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.