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This ACORN voter registration fraud threatens to undermine our entire democracy

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  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

    absentee ballots. phony opicture id's. 

    these polling clerks are not rocket scientists. also, since they are volunteers i would suspect they have an active political interest to begin with and might choose to look the other way.

    but you're right. nothing to see here. move on

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  • DracusDracus Member Posts: 1,449
    Originally posted by streea 
    I think someone calling someone else racist in a political string without proof should be the new Godwin's Law. Call someone a racist? Oops, you lose the argument. End of string.

    The key point is that I did not call SioBabble a racist, I stated he made racial comments.  Two different items of context. 

    SioBabble is a worthy opponent, takes a beating and dishes it back out.  Which is why I made no such naming calling onto him.

    Unfortunately in this PvP style forum, it can become brutal at times and that is the nature of politics.

    (And if you, SioBabble are reading this, a nod to you.)

    And that is why...

    Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  • RedwoodSapRedwoodSap Member Posts: 1,235
    Originally posted by Thrakk


    Fox news is all over this 24/7. It's amazing that one news station can focus on one entirely different thing when every other news station is focusing on mostly all the same things.



     

    Because most media is biased to the left. Polls have been conducted which clearly show most of the mainstay media are registered Democrats.

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  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1

    About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies 

    "Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month."

     a brand new voter registers and than casts an absentee ballot?

    an organization seems to be trying to undermine democracy.

    and obama was/is a lawyer for that same organization.

    he has some very questionable relations and baggage.

    -I will subtlety invade your psyche-

  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662
    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1
    About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies 
    "Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month."
     a brand new voter registers and than casts an absentee ballot?
    an organization seems to be trying to undermine democracy.
    and obama was/is a lawyer for that same organization.
    he has some very questionable relations and baggage.



     

    Isn't it interesting that the number is 200K?  Bush won the state of Ohio in '00 and '04 by roughly 200K votes.  Sounds like ACORN wants to guarantee the result goes their way.

  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702
    Originally posted by Zindaihas

    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1
    About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies 
    "Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month."
     a brand new voter registers and than casts an absentee ballot?
    an organization seems to be trying to undermine democracy.
    and obama was/is a lawyer for that same organization.
    he has some very questionable relations and baggage.



     

    Isn't it interesting that the number is 200K?  Bush won the state of Ohio in '00 and '04 by roughly 200K votes.  Sounds like ACORN wants to guarantee the result goes their way.

    not just that. it would appear that its more coordinated than barack and acorn are leading us to believe.

    their excuse of just pay per rergistration is not palpable. they submitted what was necessary, in probably all the contested states.

    the acorn leadership crackin the whip behind their subordinates- no wonder they ran out of names and started using football teams. offering kids cigarettes and weed money, hence writing their names and addresses 50 times.

    get out the vote, but cmon-

    does this fraud group enjoy any government (tax payer)benefits or monies?

    -I will subtlety invade your psyche-

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586
    Originally posted by Zindaihas

    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1
    About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies 
    "Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month."
     a brand new voter registers and than casts an absentee ballot?
    an organization seems to be trying to undermine democracy.
    and obama was/is a lawyer for that same organization.
    he has some very questionable relations and baggage.



     

    Isn't it interesting that the number is 200K?  Bush won the state of Ohio in '00 and '04 by roughly 200K votes.  Sounds like ACORN wants to guarantee the result goes their way.

     

    Looks like we might see if the democrats get away with it like the republicans did.

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  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    Originally posted by Briansho

    Originally posted by Zindaihas

    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1
    About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies 
    "Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month."
     a brand new voter registers and than casts an absentee ballot?
    an organization seems to be trying to undermine democracy.
    and obama was/is a lawyer for that same organization.
    he has some very questionable relations and baggage.



     

    Isn't it interesting that the number is 200K?  Bush won the state of Ohio in '00 and '04 by roughly 200K votes.  Sounds like ACORN wants to guarantee the result goes their way.

     

    Looks like we might see if the democrats get away with it like the republicans did.

    The Republicans sponsored fraudulent registration of ineligible voters? Link please

     

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  • I doubt that Mickey Mouse will really show up to vote at the polls, but the total denial by Acorn and many on the far left that there is a problem kind of makes me wonder.

  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBC3O0&show_article=1

     

    "WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court is siding with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.

    The justices on Friday overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio's top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.

    "

     

    It isn't clear if this is the Ohio State supreme court or the U.S. Supreme court...  I suspect it's state, the AP article is lacking in tons of details.

    This will end up going to the U.S. Supreme court then.  There is no way that this can stand. 

    And for those of you that say it was "just registration fraud, not voter fraud."  you are wrong.  These ballots in question INCLUDE people that registered and voted at the SAME TIME.  So once again, your liberal talking point to dismiss this as just nothing to worry about .....completely head in the sand blind.

  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247

    http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991

     

    This is rich...

    """"""""""

    ALBANY, GA (WALB) - There are allegations of voter fraud, as a Dougherty County family claims the vote of a mentally challenged relative was stolen.

    They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family's permission. What's worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn't cast the ballot for his choice for President.

    Jack Justice has been voting since he turned 18. Typically his family takes him to their neighborhood precinct. This time Primus Industries, his adult day rehab program, took him to vote. His family was shocked, but what shocked them more was that Jack claims that his aide commandeered his vote.

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    and another.....

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/16/obama-organizer-targets-the-big-house/

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    An Obama spokesman in Michigan acknowledged that a new organizer made the request, but supervisors nixed the idea as soon as they found out about it. The campaign denied all association with a second request to the Department of Corrections. The emails say that a Theresa Collins, identified as the national coordinator of “Inmates to Support Barack Obama,” asked the prison to post information about how prisoners could make campaign contributions to Obama. That group doesn’t appear to have any Web site.

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    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail;jsessionid=B84FA964491DC7A4EEADBC961840A93B?contentId=7664724&version=11&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.14.1&sflg=1

    this is just the best one yet....

    """""""""""

    VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- She's only 12 years old but Ashleigh Jones is feeling the heat of this election year.

    That’s because the seventh grader at New Smyrna Beach Middle School was called a racist by classmates for wearing a pro-Sarah Palin t-shirt.

    Jones is volunteering at the Republican Headquarters in New Smyrna Beach. The Palin t-shirt was a gift from her fellow volunteers.

     

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    and to compare the 7 yr old girl being called a racist to the creme de la creme...

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1225887,racine-obama-textbook101608.article

    8th grade text book has chapter on Obama.

    """""""""""""

    MADISON, Wis. — The Racine school district’s use of an eighth grade textbook that includes a chapter on Democrat Barack Obama but nothing on his opponent John McCain is unfair and troubling, the Wisconsin Republican Party argued Thursday.

    A parent complained on an Internet blog about the textbook that includes a chapter on Obama called ‘‘Dreams from My Father.’’

    """"""""""""""""

    Why is a 7 yr old with a T-shirt being called a racist?  The link shows the T-shirt..it's just a campaign shirt, nothing more.

     

    How much more proof do you libs need that there is a combined and active attempt to steal this election with FRAUDULENT VOTES?

    oh by the way...these are just today's headlines on it....i didn't bother going back any days.

  • askwhyaskwhy Member Posts: 31
    Originally posted by Faxxer



    It isn't clear if this is the Ohio State supreme court or the U.S. Supreme court...  I suspect it's state, the AP article is lacking in tons of details.
    This will end up going to the U.S. Supreme court then.  There is no way that this can stand. 

     

    Actually, it WAS the U.S. Supreme court, so it will likely stand.

    See Bloomberg which says:

    "The U.S. Supreme Court, siding with Democrats, freed Ohio officials from a lower court order that might have limited participation by new voters in next month's presidential election.

    Republicans who sued Brunner ``are not sufficiently likely to prevail'' in their lawsuit, the Supreme Court said. The two- page unsigned order was issued on behalf of the full court, without any published dissent. "

    _____________

    Also, for what it's worth, the kind of discrepancies that 'flag' someone for that list of 200,000 come from a cross-check of two dozen information fields, and even 'Joe the Plumber Wurzelbacher' whose name is misspelled in one of the official databases used for this check, would be on the list. (See this, which I just quickly found with Google)

     

    Edit: Added another paragraph quoted from Bloomberg

  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247
    Originally posted by askwhy

    Originally posted by Faxxer



    It isn't clear if this is the Ohio State supreme court or the U.S. Supreme court...  I suspect it's state, the AP article is lacking in tons of details.
    This will end up going to the U.S. Supreme court then.  There is no way that this can stand. 

     

    Actually, it WAS the U.S. Supreme court, so it will likely stand.

    See Bloomberg which says:

    "The U.S. Supreme Court, siding with Democrats, freed Ohio officials from a lower court order that might have limited participation by new voters in next month's presidential election.

    Republicans who sued Brunner ``are not sufficiently likely to prevail'' in their lawsuit, the Supreme Court said. The two- page unsigned order was issued on behalf of the full court, without any published dissent. "

    _____________

    Also, for what it's worth, the kind of discrepancies that 'flag' someone for that list of 200,000 come from a cross-check of two dozen information fields, and even 'Joe the Plumber Wurzelbacher' whose name is misspelled in one of the official databases used for this check, would be on the list. (See this, which I just quickly found with Google)

     

    Edit: Added another paragraph quoted from Bloomberg



     

    Joe has legal ID, so no problem there.  Though the spelling error would flag his name if he were registering for the first time...

    This will have a serious implication on the election integrity.

    for all you libs.. just wondered something.. so the supremem court didn't rig this out come eh?  I thought they were nothing but republican sheep?  Just wanted to point out how conservatives respect the rule of Law, but libs don't...that's why we have 11 states now under investigation of ACORN.

  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

     i believe the fbi is actively investigating this group.

    someone broke in and stole one of acorns computers from a boston office yesterday.

    perhaps acorn or obama subordinates broke in to get evidence destroyed.

    or the fbi busted in for intel which ties to bush and the patriot act somehow.

    choose and theory and live it! 

    i would like to think that the justices let these fools go to carry on about business, so maybe we can get them later while intel is gathering. 

    because i would not like to think these fellows on the bench are this naive.

     

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  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


     i believe the fbi is actively investigating this group.
    someone broke in and stole one of acorns computers from a boston office yesterday.
    perhaps acorn or obama subordinates broke in to get evidence destroyed.
    or the fbi busted in for intel which ties to bush and the patriot act somehow.
    choose and theory and live it! 
    i would like to think that the justices let these fools go to carry on about business, so maybe we can get them later while intel is gathering. 
    because i would not like to think these fellows on the bench are this naive.
     



     

    I dint think it was the FBI that did the brake in...they would have just copied the hard drive and left,it was acorn for sure.

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  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803
    Originally posted by askwhy

    Originally posted by Faxxer



    It isn't clear if this is the Ohio State supreme court or the U.S. Supreme court...  I suspect it's state, the AP article is lacking in tons of details.
    This will end up going to the U.S. Supreme court then.  There is no way that this can stand. 

     

    Actually, it WAS the U.S. Supreme court, so it will likely stand.

    See Bloomberg which says:

    "The U.S. Supreme Court, siding with Democrats, freed Ohio officials from a lower court order that might have limited participation by new voters in next month's presidential election.

    Republicans who sued Brunner ``are not sufficiently likely to prevail'' in their lawsuit, the Supreme Court said. The two- page unsigned order was issued on behalf of the full court, without any published dissent. "

    _____________

    Also, for what it's worth, the kind of discrepancies that 'flag' someone for that list of 200,000 come from a cross-check of two dozen information fields, and even 'Joe the Plumber Wurzelbacher' whose name is misspelled in one of the official databases used for this check, would be on the list. (See this, which I just quickly found with Google)

     

    Edit: Added another paragraph quoted from Bloomberg



     

    The Supreme Court ruled as it did because the GOP HAS NO CASE.

    It's a "legal tenchincality".

    They don't have a case.

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  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Member UncommonPosts: 2,413

    Why are you GOP so concerned over this?  You have the voting machines rigged in their precincts, so it's not like these registrations are going to make any difference.

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  • JadarJadar Member Posts: 300


    Originally posted by Beatnik59
    Why are you GOP so concerned over this?  You have the voting machines rigged in their precincts, so it's not like these registrations are going to make any difference.


    They aren't really concerned, they know voter fraud is literally nonexistent. It's just one of their favorite techniques of voter suppression. And as far the voting machines are concerned, they can only flip votes within a limited percentage of votes actually cast, if the fixed count is too incongruous, the results might be questioned and that could cause them some real problems. Remember these are Republicans, they are so convinced of the righteousness of their cause, they are willing to cheat.

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  • BushMonkeyBushMonkey Member Posts: 1,406

    A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

    Thomas Jefferson

     

    Got news for you Democracy sucks if you are one of the 49.

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    Karl Marx

    The goal of socialism is communism.

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  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    Originally posted by Beatnik59


    Why are you GOP so concerned over this?  You have the voting machines rigged in their precincts, so it's not like these registrations are going to make any difference.



     

    Considering that polling places have both Democrat and Republican representatives attending them, and both parties generally approve of the type of voting machines and methods to be used in advance, how do Republicans pull this off?

    Also a link for your unsubstantiated claim would be nice if you don't want to look foolish.

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  • SlytheSlythe Member UncommonPosts: 952
    Originally posted by Samuraisword
    Considering that polling places have both Democrat and Republican representatives attending them, and both parties generally approve of the type of voting machines and methods to be used in advance, how do Republicans pull this off?
    Also a link for your unsubstantiated claim would be nice if you don't want to look foolish.

    Republicans run the voting machines.

    If you want a link, just google Clint Curtis vs. Tom Feeney and prepare to be shocked (or in denial, depending on whom you believe.)

  • DailyBuzzDailyBuzz Member Posts: 2,306

    More garbage drummed up by the GOP. I guess when they failed at forcing US Attorneys to prosecute cases of voter fraud - that didn't exist - in 2006, they decided on a preemptive strike this season. After all, public perception is all that's really important. It seems to be working on some of you.

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    Originally posted by Slythe

    Originally posted by Samuraisword
    Considering that polling places have both Democrat and Republican representatives attending them, and both parties generally approve of the type of voting machines and methods to be used in advance, how do Republicans pull this off?
    Also a link for your unsubstantiated claim would be nice if you don't want to look foolish.

    Republicans run the voting machines.

    If you want a link, just google Clint Curtis vs. Tom Feeney and prepare to be shocked (or in denial, depending on whom you believe.)

    Testimony video clip of Curtis in which he says he was asked to create prototype software to rig elections, but he admits he has no knowledge if it was implemented and no one else backs up his claim. It's his word only. He doesn't even provide a copy of the software in question as evidence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

     

    Wikipedia details which indicate Curtis was digruntled with his company Yang Enterprises, is a fervent Democrat who tried to profit with an attack book against the Bush Administration and by competing against Feeney in a political race and lost. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis

    There were no prosecutions resulting from the investigation and Curtis's claims were never proven.

     These excerpts from the Wikipedia details refutes Curtis's claims with other testimony:

     Adam Stubblefield, a computer science graduate student who wrote a paper about Diebold's voting machines, told Wired that Curtis's code would not have been used in any voting machine, even assuming fraud, because (1) Curtis did not have access to any original voting machine source code, and (2) the code that Curtis claims to have written was "so trivial" that it would be easier to write new code than to try to incorporate Curtis's code into the actual voting machine.

    Laura Zuckerman, a former reporter for the Daytona Beach News-Journal, told Wired that she worked closely with Curtis in 2002 to write several stories regarding Curtis's various charges against Yang Enterprises at the time, but that Curtis never discussed any alleged conspiracy to commit vote fraud. 

     

     

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  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247

    Thank God...another day brings another part of the puzzle...this is FAR from over....

     

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBR781&show_article=1

     

    Here is the issue...not about the fraud, but the dems got it thrown out on a technicality...

    "In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue. "

     

    So basically, some government agency has to step up and bring this back into court.  Which they will.

     

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    If Obama wins the election we know what the Republicans are going to cry about.

    If McCain wins the election we know what the Democrats are going to cry about.

     

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

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