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Mr Jacobs. I have a question... confused about something
Azrile
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In your state of the game speech. You said
"We are one of, if not the, fastest selling MMORPG out of the blocks and we are also one of the most highly rated MMORPGs of all time."
Then later on you said you are going to allow players to escape off of low-population servers.
Now the question is.... why aren't the servers filling up if the game is selling so fast? There are rarely any servers with queues any more, and there certainly appears to be about 30-50% of servers at low/low or low/med at primetime. I'm just not sure how you can be the fastest selling MMORPG if server populations seem to be decreasing and you are planning on letting players get off of dead servers.
My guess is that probably a million or two million people (maybe 5 million even) have bought the box and haven't logged in yet. I therefore implore you not to close down those low population servers.
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That is totally unrealistic. I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
Well, I just can't understand how he said they are the fastest selling MMORPG.. and yet populations are decreasing and they are making plans to close servers. The only explaination is that people bought the box, but haven't played yet.
Azrile please let it go... No one likes to listen to a selfish human being that can't accept others moving on.
That is totally unrealistic. I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
They sent a TOTAL of 1.5 million boxes out to the stores. And not all of those are sold, the last number I saw was 750k, that's half of them.
That is totally unrealistic. I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
They sent a TOTAL of 1.5 million boxes out to the stores. And not all of those are sold, the last number I saw was 750k, that's half of them.
But how long ago was this stated? there was 1.5mil sent to shops at launch more could have been sent by now but to be honest with you i highly doubt that even 1 mil have bought it and have not played it yet even that seems a little un-realistic, to be honest at the moment i can see that this game is suffering what most other new title's of late have suffered and that is that there main focus of the game is not enough to keep the player base alive and in this i mean the main focus being the PVP it is great that we have a game that does PVP well and PVE just as good but this title is centered on PVP and unfortunately there is just not enough ppl out that that just want that. LoTRO had the same problem but in reverse it focused on PVE and people wanted to PVP so they lost quite a few ppl.
WAR is kinda heading in the same diretion IMO the PVE ppl well most of em dont like to PVP well not to the extent that this is a main focus of the game so i think this is where a lot of ppl are going, and there is no point in flaming these ppl and saying ""well go back to WoW and ya PVE games"" casue these are the ppl that were filling up the servers like it or not. I have to admit i was never a PVP nut but have grown fond of it since playing this game BUT it also gets rather boring playing the same Scenario's over and over and over again it is all fun and dandy the first 10 times through but get's very repetative and tiresome IMO.
WAR is a great game but i dont think it will be as big as some ppl have predicted.
They made were afraid that too many servers would be full ( some people don't like that ) and made too many of them. Soon though, the server issue should be figured out as Mythic never disappoints. Well okay they disappointed us a few times especially with the cutting classes and cities which Mark Jacobs said "will be implemented free of charge...the two tanks should be back by December".
BTW "free of charge" means you pay through subscription (of course)
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That is totally unrealistic. I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
They sent a TOTAL of 1.5 million boxes out to the stores. And not all of those are sold, the last number I saw was 750k, that's half of them.
But how long ago was this stated? there was 1.5mil sent to shops at launch more could have been sent by now but to be honest with you i highly doubt that even 1 mil have bought it and have not played it yet even that seems a little un-realistic, to be honest at the moment i can see that this game is suffering what most other new title's of late have suffered and that is that there main focus of the game is not enough to keep the player base alive and in this i mean the main focus being the PVP it is great that we have a game that does PVP well and PVE just as good but this title is centered on PVP and unfortunately there is just not enough ppl out that that just want that. LoTRO had the same problem but in reverse it focused on PVE and people wanted to PVP so they lost quite a few ppl WAR is kinda heading in the same diretion IMO the PVE ppl well most of em dont like to PVP well not to the extent that this is a main focus of the game so i think this is where a lot of ppl ar going, i have to admit i was never a PVP nut but have grown fond of it since playing this game BUT it also gets rather boring playing the same Scenario's over and over and over again it is all fun and dandy the first 10 times through but get's very repetative and tiresome IMO.
WAR is a great game but i dont think it will be as big as some ppl have predicted.
The 750k number? Several days ago, possibly well over a week. And it's even the newest official number, assuming that sold copies equals active accounts.
http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=386
That is totally unrealistic. I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
They sent a TOTAL of 1.5 million boxes out to the stores. And not all of those are sold, the last number I saw was 750k, that's half of them.
But how long ago was this stated? there was 1.5mil sent to shops at launch more could have been sent by now but to be honest with you i highly doubt that even 1 mil have bought it and have not played it yet even that seems a little un-realistic, to be honest at the moment i can see that this game is suffering what most other new title's of late have suffered and that is that there main focus of the game is not enough to keep the player base alive and in this i mean the main focus being the PVP it is great that we have a game that does PVP well and PVE just as good but this title is centered on PVP and unfortunately there is just not enough ppl out that that just want that. LoTRO had the same problem but in reverse it focused on PVE and people wanted to PVP so they lost quite a few ppl WAR is kinda heading in the same diretion IMO the PVE ppl well most of em dont like to PVP well not to the extent that this is a main focus of the game so i think this is where a lot of ppl ar going, i have to admit i was never a PVP nut but have grown fond of it since playing this game BUT it also gets rather boring playing the same Scenario's over and over and over again it is all fun and dandy the first 10 times through but get's very repetative and tiresome IMO.
WAR is a great game but i dont think it will be as big as some ppl have predicted.
The 750k number? Several days ago, possibly well over a week. And it's even the newest official number, assuming that sold copies equals active accounts.
http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=386
Sorry i was meanign the 1.5 mil copy's sent out not the 750k i knew about that
As you said yourself, it was stated at launch. But since 750k of them still appears to be on the shelves, there's no reason to assume they shipped out more copies.
The original press release:
http://www.warhammeronline.com/pressreleases/20080915.php
you would be right if war want about rvr. It is important for Mythic to balance the server populations and unlike AoC this game works and the classes are balanced.
Mythiv are abe design offerinf extra levelling speed on certain servers to help compensate this anticipated feature of the launch . I can tel lyou the infrmatin is all out there and whilst a large percentage of the player base cba to find this out or ask there isnt a problem the current cllimate on SOME servers is simply what happens in mmogs. If they had too few servers they would be critisied and if they have too many they would be in trouble if they could not merge them ( like Aoc)
Right now they are adoing a superb job.
It is also expected there will be some loss after the first month - thats when we will truly know whats what as will be the case with wotlk release. Expetct a lot of players to go ttry that or leve warhammer for a bit - but i guarantee a lot will be back and a lot will also play both.
the mmog to get his xmas isnt the wotlk expansion its warhammer and the press coverage is going to get better and better if mythic keep up the good work and continue to tweak which they can do in bucket loads esp in end game/ tier 4 to ensure siege warfare / city invasions are rocking and rolling every day of the week.
I think mark actually covered this in a convention video several months back when he was asked what they would do to balance server pop. He mentioned something about giving people incentive to play underpopulated factions. Some servers are giving bonuses to destro this week.
If they sold 750k copies I bet 500k never pay a sub fee. Even the highest population servers that they were cloning have fallen off considerably. This game had alot of hype and alot of people had a "I'll give it a try" attitude tward it. Many people found the game to be a dissapointment so they left after the first week or two. You can expect server merges soon because many servers are just empty and never go above low/low. The game will have enough subs to survive no doubt but a long term success, no sorry.
No they are the fastest selling because your Precious World of Warcraft didn't sell 750K boxes in the first couple of months of being out.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
No they are the fastest selling because your Precious World of Warcraft didn't sell 750K boxes in the first couple of months of being out.
He actually still calls doubt on that statement himself (MJ) it's either fastest or second fastest.
That said that statement iswas most likely about the first week or few weeks of the game, not necessarily now anymore.
As for WoW? Lol, you're not seriously talking about that as a boast are you? 750k ... Back then that pretty much *was* the western MMO population, all of us. WAR released into a 10 million market (5 million if you just take the west).
No they are the fastest selling because your Precious World of Warcraft didn't sell 750K boxes in the first couple of months of being out.
Fastest selling means fastest selling right ?
WOW/TBC sold 2.4 million on its frst day...
I bet you 10 dollars, WotLK wil sell about 3 million on its first day.
Now THAT is what I call "fastest".
Now have a look where WAR is on that "fastest selling list" of NEW video games.....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/videogames/468642/ref=pd_nr_pg_1?ie=UTF8&pg=1
Let's scroll ......
No they are the fastest selling because your Precious World of Warcraft didn't sell 750K boxes in the first couple of months of being out.
Fastest selling means fastest selling right ?
WOW/TBC sold 2.4 million on its frst day...
I bet you 10 dollars, WotLK wil sell about 3 million on its first day.
Now THAT is what I call "fastest".
Now have a look where WAR is on that "fastest selling list" of NEW video games.....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/videogames/468642/ref=pd_nr_pg_1?ie=UTF8&pg=1
Let's scroll ......
There is a MMO called TBC? Hmm I didn't know that. Is there a MMO coming out called WoTLK? Oh no that is right those are expansions.
And to Pheace. The number 1 game is either WAR or AoC for fastest selling. WoW didn't get that big until after Christmas and that was around 4 months after launch.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
You do realise Mark Jacobs doesn't personally read your posts? In addition, not everyone who buys the game wants to keep playing it. You can't predict precisely how many people will stay, so better to have extra servers ready, just in case, than being forced to withhold sales while new servers are being put up.
Yet, but my point was that WOW had to grow the player base to beyond it's limits to get there when WAR/AOC just came into a player base where that number is like 15-20% of the playerbase tops.
The achievement is nowhere near comparable.
No they are the fastest selling because your Precious World of Warcraft didn't sell 750K boxes in the first couple of months of being out.
Fastest selling means fastest selling right ?
WOW/TBC sold 2.4 million on its frst day...
I bet you 10 dollars, WotLK wil sell about 3 million on its first day.
Now THAT is what I call "fastest".
Now have a look where WAR is on that "fastest selling list" of NEW video games.....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/videogames/468642/ref=pd_nr_pg_1?ie=UTF8&pg=1
Let's scroll ......
There is a MMO called TBC? Hmm I didn't know that. Is there a MMO coming out called WoTLK? Oh no that is right those are expansions.
And to Pheace. The number 1 game is either WAR or AoC for fastest selling. WoW didn't get that big until after Christmas and that was around 4 months after launch.
Well WOW in 2004 was only launched in the US, not in EU and in the Oceanic regions.
So you compare things that can't be compared.
But http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/videogames/468642/ref=pd_nr_pg_1?ie=UTF8&pg=1
read the title on amazon.com:
"Hot New Releases in Video Games"
TBC and WotLK are considered new releases in video games and they VERY much outsold and outsell this hyped and copycat product.
Yeah, stores like Amazon are selling products. They don't give a damn whether it's a full, new title which has yet to prove itself to the world or an expansion of an existing game that has been working on increasing it's subscription numbers for 4 years now; as long as the product sells. They compare products, not newly released titles, ye dimwit.
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Yet, but my point was that WOW had to grow the player base to beyond it's limits to get there when WAR/AOC just came into a player base where that number is like 15-20% of the playerbase tops.
The achievement is nowhere near comparable.
Yeah but in that case WoW is considered a failure in the Eastern Market. Sure they have around 5 million Asian Subscribers but that is out of around 50+ Million of players.
Plus please keep in mind that World of Warcraft had a built in player base slash advertising base that no other MMO has ever had. Blizzard was running a massive ad campaign to make sure they got every Battle.net player. Which they honestly failed at. Battle.net had something around 10-20million users in the Western Market and blizzard got 2-4 million of them to play.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Who gives a rats ass about the numbers?
Is WAR a good game? yes
Is WoW a good game? yes
who cares how many box sales a damn game has.
Whens the last time any WoW player actually played on a server with 10 million players? never
As long as WAR has servers with decent populations none of this matters.
Now please put your cocks away and rulers down and play the game you enjoy.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
lol that is a pretty big number you made up. maybe 1 BILLION people bought the box and are just using it as wall art. like others have said, not even close to 5 mil copies have sold.
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I just don't know. How can a game with 750k accounts created the first week, then a noticable drop in populations for the next four weeks be a best selling game of all time. Clearly a lot of people bought the box and havent' started playing yet. Ok, maybe 5M is high, but at least 1 or 2 million must have for this to be a best selling game of all time.
You literally JUST said the same thing. This WAR vs WoW shit is getting out of hand. Just shut the hell up and play the game you choose. Your opinions don't matter when it comes to bickering. Personally, I could care less if WAR was at 5,000 people or 5,000,000 people. I know I'm not going to meet even a quarter of those people, I just want to find some RvR and kill. Which takes what? 150 people? In a game like this? Cake.
Subscribe to whatever you want. Just don't bitch at us for the choices we make. Play WoW, I don't give a shit.