if anything we will see a rise in subs when wotlk launches.
Im playing since euro launch im still having a blast. Most people I know ingame feel the same way. Heck,my server seems more packed then ever these days.
Yeah, I know some people don't care about Xfire.. but it has shown about a 30% jump from last friday to this friday. It doesn't say people necessarily like the new patch, but it does show there is a lot of interest in it.
Also with AOC nearly dead, and Warhammer devs already implementing server mergers.. it's clear that WOW is going to get back a ton of 'lukewarm' players. Players who aren't really overexcited about WOW, maybe bored a bit, but who are realizing there isn't anything else really out there that is better.
I am sure at first they will get a surge of players but after 2 months I am sure things will slowly decline because lets face it, nothing lasts forever.
It's exactly this mentality that results in unheard of hype for very very mediocre "Wow-killer" MMO's.
The fact is that competition for Wow really does NOT exist and with each failed attempt, people are more and more convinced Wow is just excellent value for the money.
With WOTLK I am sure there is already reached a point where VERY OLD veterans of the game will be with it much longer than they would have excpected 6 months ago (before the launch of those so called newest Wow killers).
With each new launch, Wow just gets stronger. It's the new generation AND the old generation realising the grass is no longer greener on that upublished hyped garden down the street.
EVE is VERY boring and the rest of the kids are only good for a short diversion on line.
You see it even on www.MMORPG-hateWow.com : more people are defending Wow than ever. The fact is : what IF such games like AoC and WAR would be the only viable MMO's to play....
The HOPE of having another game you could play for 2 or 3 years is dwindling fast and the only alternatives are not worth 15 Euro a month for 95% of the people.
Because that's the truth: people vote with their money= that's why there is a difference between 10M K subs (ok 4.5 M in EU/US) and an average of 150K for the rest.
HOPE is one thing but delivery is another.
Saying that you can outplay the content of WotLK in 2 months is a real laugh. Too much playing the alternatives I guess.
Maybe not 2 months (though it really was an example I should of clarified) but eventually the game will suffer a decline sooner or later. I don't hate WOW by any means but it just amazes me that the most simplest mmo on thr face of the earth keeps gaining players as the years pass while other more innovative/complex mmos decline over the years. Perhaps this is just a simple fact that mmos do not need to be majorly innovative or complex to be successful.
I am sure at first they will get a surge of players but after 2 months I am sure things will slowly decline because lets face it, nothing lasts forever.
It's exactly this mentality that results in unheard of hype for very very mediocre "Wow-killer" MMO's.
The fact is that competition for Wow really does NOT exist and with each failed attempt, people are more and more convinced Wow is just excellent value for the money.
With WOTLK I am sure there is already reached a point where VERY OLD veterans of the game will be with it much longer than they would have excpected 6 months ago (before the launch of those so called newest Wow killers).
With each new launch, Wow just gets stronger. It's the new generation AND the old generation realising the grass is no longer greener on that upublished hyped garden down the street.
EVE is VERY boring and the rest of the kids are only good for a short diversion on line.
You see it even on www.MMORPG-hateWow.com : more people are defending Wow than ever. The fact is : what IF such games like AoC and WAR would be the only viable MMO's to play....
The HOPE of having another game you could play for 2 or 3 years is dwindling fast and the only alternatives are not worth 15 Euro a month for 95% of the people.
Because that's the truth: people vote with their money= that's why there is a difference between 10M K subs (ok 4.5 M in EU/US) and an average of 150K for the rest.
HOPE is one thing but delivery is another.
Saying that you can outplay the content of WotLK in 2 months is a real laugh. Too much playing the alternatives I guess.
Maybe not 2 months (though it really was an example I should of clarified) but eventually the game will suffer a decline sooner or later. I don't hate WOW by any means but it just amazes me that the most simplest mmo on thr face of the earth keeps gaining players as the years pass while other more innovative/complex mmos decline over the years. Perhaps this is just a simple fact that mmos do not need to be majorly innovative or complex to be successful.
They can be innovative, but it doesen't matter is they are broken and play like crap.
Maybe not 2 months (though it really was an example I should of clarified) but eventually the game will suffer a decline sooner or later. I don't hate WOW by any means but it just amazes me that the most simplest mmo on thr face of the earth keeps gaining players as the years pass while other more innovative/complex mmos decline over the years. Perhaps this is just a simple fact that mmos do not need to be majorly innovative or complex to be successful.
Its not that WoW isn't innovative or complex. Blizzard just does a better job of teaching the game content to players.
Dont think WotLK will bring the decline in the popularity of WoW. Virtually every game they release is a commercial success and hence, popular. And yea the only game that can bring this decline in popularity is Blizz's next MMO.
Dont think WotLK will bring the decline in the popularity of WoW. Virtually every game they release is a commercial success and hence, popular. And yea the only game that can bring this decline in popularity is Blizz's next MMO.
Actually you may find that even Blizzards next MMO will struggle against WoW, simply because it will have all the same issues that todays MMO's have at launch. And then people will compare the issues with how WoW is running.
My point is, WoW launched at the right time and has had to time iron out a lot of the issues it had at launch. The masses of people who play WoW don't compare another MMO to how WoW was at launch. They compare it to how WoW is NOW. And the fact is WoW plays well STILL on old machines, it doesn't have population issues, it lags a bit but not much, it has quests ALL the way up the level range without gaps, regular updates, expansion packs, . There's plenty to do IF a person starts playing it today.
And it has all this because its already been going for 4 years. The only thing that can stop WoW, is people becoming bored. And that won't cause masses to leave suddenly. It will have to happen over time.
Thats an interesting point about the new 'wow' having problems because people will expect the same polish right at launch as WOW has.
I do think there is a big difference though.. and its the company backing the game. AOC was forced early because Funcom's financial problems. Warhammer had the same issues with changing companies and EA lack of patience.
Blizzard has never rushed a project (same as bioware)
WoW died for me when they announced this expansion. Raid grind till you get the top gear so you can start all over again with the new expansion. What bothered me most was knowing that many players will not get to see all of the end game content of the last expansion before the next one comes out. Only the upper guilds will have gotten to see the content, rest would have to wait till they could get the gear in future instances and go back to the older ones. Same happened for Naxx when BC came out.
This brings up another point. All my chars are in Arena/T6 gear and with the expansion it will be made worthless. Oh well, I am still missing a 70 Druid, Paladin and Shaman. Guess I will grind those out while I wait for my DK.
WoW died for me when they announced this expansion. Raid grind till you get the top gear so you can start all over again with the new expansion. What bothered me most was knowing that many players will not get to see all of the end game content of the last expansion before the next one comes out. Only the upper guilds will have gotten to see the content, rest would have to wait till they could get the gear in future instances and go back to the older ones. Same happened for Naxx when BC came out.
This brings up another point. All my chars are in Arena/T6 gear and with the expansion it will be made worthless. Oh well, I am still missing a 70 Druid, Paladin and Shaman. Guess I will grind those out while I wait for my DK.
What is the alternative to not replacing your gear. Do you really want players who did MC 4 years ago to still be wearing that gear because at the time it was 'endgame' gear.
Players have known since Onyxia was endgame that gear would constantly be replaced. If you focus your mentality on 'grinding' gear.. well then that is your problem. The whole point of WOW is to get better gear, so you can defeat ever more powerful encounters.
There will be no decline in the WoLTK simply because of the influence of long time players to come back for another round of mass lore and new content that makes the game very addicting. If I assume people who are playing AoC and WAR right now are probably taking a break from WoW and when the patch hits there was always something to do before expansion hits. It was probably the reason for people to come back to WoW to prepare for the expac to come out.
From reading some of these posts it is agreeable that it is a reliable product for any user to pick up, play it on most machines, and be able to enjoy the massive lore and content that they provide for the consumer. It is simply that people will keep playing WoW until there is another MMO that can meet at their expectations. Right now, Blizzard is the "Mc Donalds" of MMO and will keep racking up new people and losing some everyday but maintain its slow but steady incline for years to come. Plus, they are the ones that made the lore so Metzen can keep writing more and more story for future lore ahead, maybe more badass than Arthas for all we know.
BUT, I can't play any more, the thrill is gone. I will not purchase the expansion.
I moved on to WAR and only wish to move forward. I just can't seem to get excited over it.
I wish those playing WOW the best of luck and hope you enjoy it, I'm sure it will be great. I played WOW for too many hours and I am totaly burned out on it.
First he goes on to say that the game has had a lack of quality content as of late, and is pretty much ruining the WoW lore by killing off key figures. He also gives some examples. Lore is overated anyway. Most people don't pay a whole lot of attention to it. People enjoy talking about lore and all that, but when push comes to shove, they don't decide to play the game or not based on the lore. It's not a primary concern for most. He then goes on to explain how the dev team seems to be loosing direction since the new Inscription profession is a re-tooled Enchanting, and gives an example of how they could have come up with a better profession, the example being a pretty damn cool one. Read his suggestion of soul harvesting and honestly, I think Inscriptions are better. Finally he mentions the fact that a large influx of Death Knights are going to hit the game as soon as the expansion comes out, and pretty much overwhelm the population. This is speculation. You should see the influx of Paladins there are right now as everyone is trying to cash in on the OP Ret Pally issue right now. It's hilarious. Sure there's going to be a lot of talk about DK's being OP and possibly they even will be at first, but it will be balanced quickly (Ret Pally's were nerfed after the first day) and then all will be back to normal. I doubt they are going to overwhelm anything. I don't really do his article justice, but those are some of the key points.
What do you guys think? We will be killing Arthas in WotLK. Who else is after that? I agree with him 100% that I will be done with Warcraft after I finally see Arthas die. Oh well, I guess it's for the best. Maybe I can get back to my real life. WoW's popularity won't last forever, but nothing Blizzard does is gonna cause it's demise, it just will eventually run out of new subscribers and slowly fade. Then something new will takes it's place on the top of the heap. Personally I think Starcraft II and Diablo III have the potential of stealing a lot of WoW's customer's moreso than WoW losing them. I don't think Blizzard will be too upset with that though.
These post are amusing, server populations across the board have already started to pick up in expectation for the WotLK launch and even more will join at launch. Personally, having played the beta, I think they've done a great job adding content and features to WoW, much better then with TBC.
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These post are amusing, server populations across the board have already started to pick up in expectation for the WotLK launch and even more will join at launch. Personally, having played the beta, I think they've done a great job adding content and features to WoW, much better then with TBC.
Unbelievable but true. Last night there were like 20 servers in NA that had queues.
These post are amusing, server populations across the board have already started to pick up in expectation for the WotLK launch and even more will join at launch. Personally, having played the beta, I think they've done a great job adding content and features to WoW, much better then with TBC.
Unbelievable but true. Last night there were like 20 servers in NA that had queues.
Yep. Three weeks from the expansion and tonight my server has a queue. This probably hasn't happened since burning crusade.
imho i think blizzard will be the ones to end WoW with another game by them, If you think about it blizzard has so much money by now it wouldn't suprise me that they will be the company that comes out with the next genration of mmog. thats just my opinion.
I'm not a big Star Wars geek or anything, but I have a feeling that Bioware's upcoming MMO may be the first to put a serious dent in WoW's numbers. It will have a strong financial backing, a built in fan base, and worldwide television advertising. Of course it won't come out for at least a couple years so WoW is in no big danger right now, but that is the first game that I truely believe will challenge WoW's supremacy.
I'm not a big Star Wars geek or anything, but I have a feeling that Bioware's upcoming MMO may be the first to put a serious dent in WoW's numbers. It will have a strong financial backing, a built in fan base, and worldwide television advertising. Of course it won't come out for at least a couple years so WoW is in no big danger right now, but that is the first game that I truely believe will challenge WoW's supremacy.
ROFL.
The two last Wow killers were hardly published and another dreamer of yet another Wow killer comes out of his cage.
I wonder why such guys post things like "I truely believe it will challenge Wow's suppremacy" even 2 years before the thing gets published. He doesn't even know the lore, let alone gaming value !!!!
WHY ?
I really don't mind another good MMORPG, but let's face it, the competition sucks at the moment. I play as a second MMO PotBS, at least a game with no "Wow killer" banner and good sea battles.
So how many Wow killers did we have in these last 2 years people? 5 or 7 I just lost count.
The truth is that ALL of them went under 250K subs after a mere 3 to 4 months of having to pay subscription fees, while picking a LOT of money out of hyped up customer pockets.
Wow has 60% of the complete playing MMO market (FREE sub based MMO's like GW included !!!!). Oh for those dreaming that War stays there, just wait 3 more months.... when sub cards dry up and the first month initial hyped sales effect fades away.
Fact is : this winter there will be MORE US/EU Wow players than ever before.
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imho i think blizzard will be the ones to end WoW with another game by them, If you think about it blizzard has so much money by now it wouldn't suprise me that they will be the company that comes out with the next genration of mmog. thats just my opinion.
mind me to ask this but what game will blizzard probably try to end WoW, was it Diablo 3, thats the rumor i heard that it will go online, correct me if i'm wrong...
I've had a chance to play WotLK's Beta and I will tell you flat-out that WoW's numbers are only going to skyrocket.
They have completely revamped their design philosophy and have actually mapped out the way this expansion will go. The new continent is absolutely beautiful and every inch of it screams 'WE'RE SORRY FOR ALL OF THE HIGH FANTASY IN OUTLANDS, PLEASE FORGIVE US!'.
Going back to their D2 roots, Blizzard will tell the story of this expansion in 3 acts, culminating with an encounter at Icecrown Citadel against the dread Lich King. This means that we KNOW who the guy we're after is and won't have a surprise appearance by Kil'jaeden sprung on us all of a sudden...Or another famous lore character.
It's easily one of the coolest things I've ever seen done with an expansion and I won't be surprised if nothing can stop the Blizzard juggernaut save for Blizzard themselves.
One last sidenote; Blizzard has said that they will release a sort of XBox-like Achievement system that will keep track of player achievements across Starcraft II, Diablo III, and WoW...There's encouragement for playing all 3 games right there and I can assure you that people will be playing all 3; not quitting one for the other.
I've had a chance to play WotLK's Beta and I will tell you flat-out that WoW's numbers are only going to skyrocket. They have completely revamped their design philosophy and have actually mapped out the way this expansion will go. The new continent is absolutely beautiful and every inch of it screams 'WE'RE SORRY FOR ALL OF THE HIGH FANTASY IN OUTLANDS, PLEASE FORGIVE US!'. Going back to their D2 roots, Blizzard will tell the story of this expansion in 3 acts, culminating with an encounter at Icecrown Citadel against the dread Lich King. This means that we KNOW who the guy we're after is and won't have a surprise appearance by Kil'jaeden sprung on us all of a sudden...Or another famous lore character. It's easily one of the coolest things I've ever seen done with an expansion and I won't be surprised if nothing can stop the Blizzard juggernaut save for Blizzard themselves. One last sidenote; Blizzard has said that they will release a sort of XBox-like Achievement system that will keep track of player achievements across Starcraft II, Diablo III, and WoW...There's encouragement for playing all 3 games right there and I can assure you that people will be playing all 3; not quitting one for the other.
Agreed. The blogger the OP referenced obviously has no idea what is actually in the X-pac that he is proclaiming to be the death of WoW.
Wrath is unbelievably respectful to lore, and advances it as a coherrant story. New tech is used to enhance this entire experience. The PvE game in Wrath is incredible. The PvP game is tweaked and strengthened, with Lake Wintergrasp being the best of it (and the emphassis on Arenas being the worst).
Overall Wrath will bring back tons of old players, if just to see some of teh stories play out in ways that have never been done before.
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if anything we will see a rise in subs when wotlk launches.
Im playing since euro launch im still having a blast. Most people I know ingame feel the same way. Heck,my server seems more packed then ever these days.
Well, this week 2 people used my scrolls of resurection and then went on to subscribe for a month or more ( thats 2 free months for me ).
Might not be anything, but thats 2 people who were away from wow for 90 days or more and have come back this week and subbed.
Yeah, I know some people don't care about Xfire.. but it has shown about a 30% jump from last friday to this friday. It doesn't say people necessarily like the new patch, but it does show there is a lot of interest in it.
Also with AOC nearly dead, and Warhammer devs already implementing server mergers.. it's clear that WOW is going to get back a ton of 'lukewarm' players. Players who aren't really overexcited about WOW, maybe bored a bit, but who are realizing there isn't anything else really out there that is better.
It's exactly this mentality that results in unheard of hype for very very mediocre "Wow-killer" MMO's.
The fact is that competition for Wow really does NOT exist and with each failed attempt, people are more and more convinced Wow is just excellent value for the money.
With WOTLK I am sure there is already reached a point where VERY OLD veterans of the game will be with it much longer than they would have excpected 6 months ago (before the launch of those so called newest Wow killers).
With each new launch, Wow just gets stronger. It's the new generation AND the old generation realising the grass is no longer greener on that upublished hyped garden down the street.
EVE is VERY boring and the rest of the kids are only good for a short diversion on line.
You see it even on www.MMORPG-hateWow.com : more people are defending Wow than ever. The fact is : what IF such games like AoC and WAR would be the only viable MMO's to play....
The HOPE of having another game you could play for 2 or 3 years is dwindling fast and the only alternatives are not worth 15 Euro a month for 95% of the people.
Because that's the truth: people vote with their money= that's why there is a difference between 10M K subs (ok 4.5 M in EU/US) and an average of 150K for the rest.
HOPE is one thing but delivery is another.
Saying that you can outplay the content of WotLK in 2 months is a real laugh. Too much playing the alternatives I guess.
Maybe not 2 months (though it really was an example I should of clarified) but eventually the game will suffer a decline sooner or later. I don't hate WOW by any means but it just amazes me that the most simplest mmo on thr face of the earth keeps gaining players as the years pass while other more innovative/complex mmos decline over the years. Perhaps this is just a simple fact that mmos do not need to be majorly innovative or complex to be successful.
It's exactly this mentality that results in unheard of hype for very very mediocre "Wow-killer" MMO's.
The fact is that competition for Wow really does NOT exist and with each failed attempt, people are more and more convinced Wow is just excellent value for the money.
With WOTLK I am sure there is already reached a point where VERY OLD veterans of the game will be with it much longer than they would have excpected 6 months ago (before the launch of those so called newest Wow killers).
With each new launch, Wow just gets stronger. It's the new generation AND the old generation realising the grass is no longer greener on that upublished hyped garden down the street.
EVE is VERY boring and the rest of the kids are only good for a short diversion on line.
You see it even on www.MMORPG-hateWow.com : more people are defending Wow than ever. The fact is : what IF such games like AoC and WAR would be the only viable MMO's to play....
The HOPE of having another game you could play for 2 or 3 years is dwindling fast and the only alternatives are not worth 15 Euro a month for 95% of the people.
Because that's the truth: people vote with their money= that's why there is a difference between 10M K subs (ok 4.5 M in EU/US) and an average of 150K for the rest.
HOPE is one thing but delivery is another.
Saying that you can outplay the content of WotLK in 2 months is a real laugh. Too much playing the alternatives I guess.
Maybe not 2 months (though it really was an example I should of clarified) but eventually the game will suffer a decline sooner or later. I don't hate WOW by any means but it just amazes me that the most simplest mmo on thr face of the earth keeps gaining players as the years pass while other more innovative/complex mmos decline over the years. Perhaps this is just a simple fact that mmos do not need to be majorly innovative or complex to be successful.
They can be innovative, but it doesen't matter is they are broken and play like crap.
Its not that WoW isn't innovative or complex. Blizzard just does a better job of teaching the game content to players.
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Dont think WotLK will bring the decline in the popularity of WoW. Virtually every game they release is a commercial success and hence, popular. And yea the only game that can bring this decline in popularity is Blizz's next MMO.
Actually you may find that even Blizzards next MMO will struggle against WoW, simply because it will have all the same issues that todays MMO's have at launch. And then people will compare the issues with how WoW is running.
My point is, WoW launched at the right time and has had to time iron out a lot of the issues it had at launch. The masses of people who play WoW don't compare another MMO to how WoW was at launch. They compare it to how WoW is NOW. And the fact is WoW plays well STILL on old machines, it doesn't have population issues, it lags a bit but not much, it has quests ALL the way up the level range without gaps, regular updates, expansion packs, . There's plenty to do IF a person starts playing it today.
And it has all this because its already been going for 4 years. The only thing that can stop WoW, is people becoming bored. And that won't cause masses to leave suddenly. It will have to happen over time.
Simply put, ignorance is bliss for some people.
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Thats an interesting point about the new 'wow' having problems because people will expect the same polish right at launch as WOW has.
I do think there is a big difference though.. and its the company backing the game. AOC was forced early because Funcom's financial problems. Warhammer had the same issues with changing companies and EA lack of patience.
Blizzard has never rushed a project (same as bioware)
This brings up another point. All my chars are in Arena/T6 gear and with the expansion it will be made worthless. Oh well, I am still missing a 70 Druid, Paladin and Shaman. Guess I will grind those out while I wait for my DK.
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This brings up another point. All my chars are in Arena/T6 gear and with the expansion it will be made worthless. Oh well, I am still missing a 70 Druid, Paladin and Shaman. Guess I will grind those out while I wait for my DK.
What is the alternative to not replacing your gear. Do you really want players who did MC 4 years ago to still be wearing that gear because at the time it was 'endgame' gear.
Players have known since Onyxia was endgame that gear would constantly be replaced. If you focus your mentality on 'grinding' gear.. well then that is your problem. The whole point of WOW is to get better gear, so you can defeat ever more powerful encounters.
There will be no decline in the WoLTK simply because of the influence of long time players to come back for another round of mass lore and new content that makes the game very addicting. If I assume people who are playing AoC and WAR right now are probably taking a break from WoW and when the patch hits there was always something to do before expansion hits. It was probably the reason for people to come back to WoW to prepare for the expac to come out.
From reading some of these posts it is agreeable that it is a reliable product for any user to pick up, play it on most machines, and be able to enjoy the massive lore and content that they provide for the consumer. It is simply that people will keep playing WoW until there is another MMO that can meet at their expectations. Right now, Blizzard is the "Mc Donalds" of MMO and will keep racking up new people and losing some everyday but maintain its slow but steady incline for years to come. Plus, they are the ones that made the lore so Metzen can keep writing more and more story for future lore ahead, maybe more badass than Arthas for all we know.
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WOW is a Great game.
BUT, I can't play any more, the thrill is gone. I will not purchase the expansion.
I moved on to WAR and only wish to move forward. I just can't seem to get excited over it.
I wish those playing WOW the best of luck and hope you enjoy it, I'm sure it will be great. I played WOW for too many hours and I am totaly burned out on it.
These post are amusing, server populations across the board have already started to pick up in expectation for the WotLK launch and even more will join at launch. Personally, having played the beta, I think they've done a great job adding content and features to WoW, much better then with TBC.
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Unbelievable but true. Last night there were like 20 servers in NA that had queues.
Unbelievable but true. Last night there were like 20 servers in NA that had queues.
Yep. Three weeks from the expansion and tonight my server has a queue. This probably hasn't happened since burning crusade.
imho i think blizzard will be the ones to end WoW with another game by them, If you think about it blizzard has so much money by now it wouldn't suprise me that they will be the company that comes out with the next genration of mmog. thats just my opinion.
I'm not a big Star Wars geek or anything, but I have a feeling that Bioware's upcoming MMO may be the first to put a serious dent in WoW's numbers. It will have a strong financial backing, a built in fan base, and worldwide television advertising. Of course it won't come out for at least a couple years so WoW is in no big danger right now, but that is the first game that I truely believe will challenge WoW's supremacy.
ROFL.
The two last Wow killers were hardly published and another dreamer of yet another Wow killer comes out of his cage.
I wonder why such guys post things like "I truely believe it will challenge Wow's suppremacy" even 2 years before the thing gets published. He doesn't even know the lore, let alone gaming value !!!!
WHY ?
I really don't mind another good MMORPG, but let's face it, the competition sucks at the moment. I play as a second MMO PotBS, at least a game with no "Wow killer" banner and good sea battles.
So how many Wow killers did we have in these last 2 years people? 5 or 7 I just lost count.
The truth is that ALL of them went under 250K subs after a mere 3 to 4 months of having to pay subscription fees, while picking a LOT of money out of hyped up customer pockets.
www.xfire.com.
Wow has 60% of the complete playing MMO market (FREE sub based MMO's like GW included !!!!). Oh for those dreaming that War stays there, just wait 3 more months.... when sub cards dry up and the first month initial hyped sales effect fades away.
Fact is : this winter there will be MORE US/EU Wow players than ever before.
Next expansion: april 2010. Say you heard it here first.
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mind me to ask this but what game will blizzard probably try to end WoW, was it Diablo 3, thats the rumor i heard that it will go online, correct me if i'm wrong...
edit: xfire is crap
I've had a chance to play WotLK's Beta and I will tell you flat-out that WoW's numbers are only going to skyrocket.
They have completely revamped their design philosophy and have actually mapped out the way this expansion will go. The new continent is absolutely beautiful and every inch of it screams 'WE'RE SORRY FOR ALL OF THE HIGH FANTASY IN OUTLANDS, PLEASE FORGIVE US!'.
Going back to their D2 roots, Blizzard will tell the story of this expansion in 3 acts, culminating with an encounter at Icecrown Citadel against the dread Lich King. This means that we KNOW who the guy we're after is and won't have a surprise appearance by Kil'jaeden sprung on us all of a sudden...Or another famous lore character.
It's easily one of the coolest things I've ever seen done with an expansion and I won't be surprised if nothing can stop the Blizzard juggernaut save for Blizzard themselves.
One last sidenote; Blizzard has said that they will release a sort of XBox-like Achievement system that will keep track of player achievements across Starcraft II, Diablo III, and WoW...There's encouragement for playing all 3 games right there and I can assure you that people will be playing all 3; not quitting one for the other.
Agreed. The blogger the OP referenced obviously has no idea what is actually in the X-pac that he is proclaiming to be the death of WoW.
Wrath is unbelievably respectful to lore, and advances it as a coherrant story. New tech is used to enhance this entire experience. The PvE game in Wrath is incredible. The PvP game is tweaked and strengthened, with Lake Wintergrasp being the best of it (and the emphassis on Arenas being the worst).
Overall Wrath will bring back tons of old players, if just to see some of teh stories play out in ways that have never been done before.