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World of Warcraft: How to Recruit for Raiding
Stradden
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MMORPG.com World of Warcraft Correspondent James Alderman writes this article that outlines some of the undesirable elements in players when you are trying to recruit for a raiding guild in Blizzard's popular MMORPG.
When The Burning Crusade was released, it had a large impact on raiding guilds. Some guilds remained unchanged, others splintered off and some disbanded completely. While a lot of old players who had quit playing WoW came back once the expansion was released, some quit altogether. So to say that The Burning Crusade shook up the raiding scene is something of an understatement.
While the transition from 40-man raid dungeons to 25-man dungeons was more drastic than the transition will be to WotLK raiding, there will still be enough of a difference to also have an effect on raiding guilds. Old players becoming active again, the option of running the 25-man instances as 10-man instances, the addition of a new class, and the new race to the new level 80 cap will be enough for some guilds to break up and new ones to form. You may find yourself in a situation where you are in charge of recruiting new members when you’ve never had such a responsibility before, so this guide is meant to help you in weeding out the bad recruits from the good ones.
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Check out the Recruiting Guide.
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Jon Wood
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Comments
Nice article, and the best part is that it applies to any game out there...
My personal favorites:
1) The Kiss-Up. Here's the person that spends most of their time faking their way through guild outings as the big team player. They cast aside all the other traits mentioned in the article to come across to the leaders as Mr. Giving. Try going out and questing or leveling with this person and see their true colors, if you're farming materials they'll be the first to grab them so they can show the leader how much they work for the guild, and when something nice drops watch how they snatch it up for personal gain. No team work really comes from this person just a lot of show for the group, with the saddest part being the leaders don't really see it because they seem so team oriented AND leader egos get fed.
2) The Socialite. They like the guild tag, they like guild chat, they LOVE being on Vent, and they suck when it comes to playing their role.
I'd say lose them both too.
How's about this one (real example from being a PUG in another guild's Gruul's run):
The guy who just won't, no matter how much you tell him, get on Vent. Unfortunately, he has one of the most important roles for a certain boss fight: pulling two of the mobs off the main tank and off-tanking them. Nobody realizes he isn't in Vent until the fourth or fifth wipe when someone sends him a /t asking why he isn't doing his job. After realizing he isn't in Vent, the raid leader asks him repeatedly to get on, the person refuses because then he can't listen to his "gangsta rap, yo" and just type the instructions out. After spending another ten minutes typing out the instructions, the guy still doesn't get it and continues to wipe the raid... at which point everyone else starts dropping.
Let me tell you... if that punk was in my raid, he'd be gone so fast... if he was in my guild I'd kick him, and warn other guilds about him.
In case any of you were wondering, he's a Blood Elf paladin named Darkfyre on Kel'Thuzad. (Think there was a special character somewhere in the name... can't remember for certain)
I have to admit, i got a good laugh out of your post...
Ok, so lets say you want to listen to some music while you raid. I know ALOT and i mean A LOT of people, including an entire guild that does it. Some people are muted in vent cause their music echoes, but to kick from a raid, guild and then SLANDER his name all over the server because the guy/girl wanted to listen to some music instead of hearing a ben stien imposter, drone on about attacks? I think thats pushing it, WAAAYY too far. I understand, vent is there to help. Your on vent to learn the fight, know your role, and do good, but just cause your playing a "Serious Business" game, doesn't mean you cannot have a little bit of fun from it. This is a game dude. Games are made to have FUN...
This is the sort of elitism that ruins the community in any game that leans it's focus towards raiding. Harassing a player for not wanting to use specific 3rd party aps to play a game, and kicking people because they just want to socialize? That's pathetic. The creator of this article is just as horrible. Telling people to watch out for thieves and jerks is one thing, telling people to avoid poorly skilled players though makes you into your first example, an "Epic Digger." You remove somebody from raiding because they are slowing down your epic farming instead of helping them become better players.
Bah!
In my opinion, all you need to do to recruit a good raid team is not to be overly bad.
I agree completely.
Productivity is important and needed, but constant whining about someone and odd dictatorship attempts is just counter-productive and sucks the fun out of a game. Nearly all of it is due to the big teenage (and younger) population.
you do realize, per kaplan/blizzard's numbers, less than 1% of the players actually raid...
so just figure all that raiding content is wasted. 99% not using it... definitely wasted.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I think you missplaced the decimal point. The numbers from Blizzard say about 10% of the players raid, not 1%. That also depends on the server and what you consider raiding. Even our casual guilds raids at times. So in reality there are more players raiding than you think.
Personally, if you don't intend to have fun playing the game, why even bother to play? Too many raiders take this game far too seriously.
I thought the article really points out the problem too many players face, raiders that are far too intent on loot than just having fun.
If you use an article like this to pick players in a raid you have already thrown out the fun factor and gone for the greed factor.
For the guy who wrote the article, I would not raid with you if you paid me to because you don't have fun anymore, it has become a chore to you.
I agree 100%.
This so-called "guide" is only a warning about thiefs and such, with no focus on anything positive. And the crap at the end, about making sure to only recuit good players, that's some kind of newbie-hostile crap I would expect from a lot of players, but not in a "guide" in the news section of this site.
MMORPG.com, I don't like the direction your "news" is taking. Elitism like here, or ppl writing guides about stuff they know nothing about (a recent EQ2 crafting article) - "professionals" is not the word I would choose tho describe your staff....
I agree 100%.
This so-called "guide" is only a warning about thiefs and such, with no focus on anything positive. And the crap at the end, about making sure to only recuit good players, that's some kind of newbie-hostile crap I would expect from a lot of players, but not in a "guide" in the news section of this site.
MMORPG.com, I don't like the direction your "news" is taking. Elitism like here, or ppl writing guides about stuff they know nothing about (a recent EQ2 crafting article) - "professionals" is not the word I would choose tho describe your staff....
I guess you havent read enough about this website to gather that theyve said multiple times, generally the people they have writing are fans first and foremost.
If you really think you can do a better job, then do so.
I agree 100%.
This so-called "guide" is only a warning about thiefs and such, with no focus on anything positive. And the crap at the end, about making sure to only recuit good players, that's some kind of newbie-hostile crap I would expect from a lot of players, but not in a "guide" in the news section of this site.
MMORPG.com, I don't like the direction your "news" is taking. Elitism like here, or ppl writing guides about stuff they know nothing about (a recent EQ2 crafting article) - "professionals" is not the word I would choose tho describe your staff....
I guess you havent read enough about this website to gather that theyve said multiple times, generally the people they have writing are fans first and foremost.
If you really think you can do a better job, then do so.
/fail
It's ok to let fans write articles, but it's not ok to let the news section become a e-peen section for elitists. And it wasn't a fan who wrote the EQ2 article, it was a newbie.
I agree 100%.
This so-called "guide" is only a warning about thiefs and such, with no focus on anything positive. And the crap at the end, about making sure to only recuit good players, that's some kind of newbie-hostile crap I would expect from a lot of players, but not in a "guide" in the news section of this site.
MMORPG.com, I don't like the direction your "news" is taking. Elitism like here, or ppl writing guides about stuff they know nothing about (a recent EQ2 crafting article) - "professionals" is not the word I would choose tho describe your staff....
I guess you havent read enough about this website to gather that theyve said multiple times, generally the people they have writing are fans first and foremost.
If you really think you can do a better job, then do so.
/fail
It's ok to let fans write articles, but it's not ok to let the news section become a e-peen section for elitists. And it wasn't a fan who wrote the EQ2 article, it was a newbie.
Well then like I said, write a better one. I look forward to reading it.
It was a decent article. These types of players do exist and it's interesting to see a guide categorise them. Ultimately it's up to the guild leadership to decide what to do with them.
If you don't care about these failings and the recruit has a great sense of humour then feel free to recruit. If you have a lot of other members who take raiding seriously and one bad apple will spoil the experience for them then don't invite him in. Feel free to educate the person as to why he's turned down.
At the end of the day, a guild is a social group who spend a lot of time together trying to solve large team goals. This guide is about picking team players, not uber skilled people and applies even outside of raiding.