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The game need a fix on Bright Wizard
funko
Member Posts: 15
When I was playing my first char in Destruction, we always notice that bright wizard is always on top of the dmg chart in every SC.. ok.. fine.. 1 Bright Wizard.. won't change the whole game.
Now, I hv my 2nd character in destruction and I am at 18 now. I hv not won a single SC for more than 2 days of play time. I believe that the Order of our server already knows the ridiculous DPS of BW. In every SC, there are 4-5 BW joining! We try hard to do anything we can do.. Charge in .... focus killing the BW.... whatever we do.. all failed! They simply DOT all of us while running around and kill any of us easily in less than 5 seconds.
Now I really don't wanna join the SC.. Going in means nothing but being killed and killed again. It is simply ridiculous to use 3 instant cast DOT to kill anybody easily. 
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sorry but this sounds like just another whine. when you start saying they can kill everyone with 3 DoTs you invalidate your argument. BWs are nukers, they give up everything for damage, and do well.
order has a lot of nukers because they have almost no tanks, and destro has lots of tanks. tanks make a much bigger difference later in the game.
if you are dying to 3 BW DoTs... you need to work on something... anything. maybe stop going into fights with 5-7x wounds debuff on from deaths. or just make a sorc and see how much you like being a nuker, they kill themselves a lot.
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Destruction complaining Order is overpowered?
I played a BW in beta (which isn't a full perspective of the game, I know, but it's a glimpse). Destro has tanks like crazy. I could kill a tank solo maybe, but even if I've got a healer or two, I can't take an equal number of tanks..
I tell you what, I have one on one soloed the hell out of every BW I have come across, and if you are telling me that you single handedly took a tank out with a BW, then he/she must of been AFK at the keyboard, a suck ass tank or very...very...very new at the game.
hmm.. I am not complaining about a single BW dps. But a team of 3 or more BW doing DOT Spamming. I am a healer myself. Our healer and I try hard to keep our tank or dps survive.. However, we can't. In every SC, they simply spam their DOT to anyone they meet. No matter how we heal, we can't keep anyone getting spammed DOT alive. Our team has been retrying the SC for more than 10 times. What we can do is give up at last. So if there is any solution to their DOT spam, please post here. We would be really appreciate it.
(We also hv the BW counterpart SOC, 2-3 per SC, they can't even comparre with any BW due to the cast time they hv. )
I really have no reason to lie, but if someone wants to say I am whatever. But
My wife has been thinking about playing WaR with me. Now she was an avid WoW player so shes not hardly total noob to mmorpgs. Anyhow she was trying it out and checking to see if it runs alright on her computer (It doesnt
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Anyway I had her queue up, and she asked what spells to use. I told her she only needed 3 buttons. As I explained them
First one was Boiling Blood (Single target dot)
Second one was Ignite (Single target dot)
Final one was Detonate (AE dot)
Never playing WaR ever before, on a machine that ran it like total and utter crap. My wife got second place in overall damage, 3 in kills. After it was over we decided it was too laggy and we have to get her better system (Been couple years).
I play bright wizard, its a great class but truthfully i've played others. It is pure god mode. I'm not talking one on one since this is a group RvR game. I played my white lion and I couldn't walk 5 feet without having a bright wizard in my face cause everyone sees/hears how they do.
The class is fine but that immolation tree is hugely overpowered. She wasn't even using playing with fire either.
I don't care to call my own class out and say sure we need a nerf in this area. Every range class complains about their damage, compared to that of a bright wizard. I mean come on, i'm hardly the greatest player but I haven't "Never" once I hit T2 up got below 3rd in damage just using 3 dots. I get my fair share of killing blows with that damage also.
Like I said its not the Bright WIzards thats broke its the immolation tree. So when they do nerf my Bright Wizard I am not going to be upset. Because I already know they are overpowered, I know they are due for a nerf, and I know the other two trees both do great damage also. Finally, I will know the class i'm playing is same RDPS class everyone is rerolling to as flavor of the month.
Sorry but noone should walk into this game and just get number 2 in damage, huge renown, etc etc not knowing what any of the buttons do but 3. and getting tops 5 FPS
glad to see a BW telling the truth..
dude i play a mar and i rolled every BW i saw with ease t1 t2 higher up tiers 3 and 4 you need to make sure you have good ele resist and will own BW 1v1 give him a healer and me not have one sucks. dont get me wrong BW are strong but with my 45% resist to ele there not that bad. get your resist up all i gotta say
As a general rule with most MMOs (and especially this one) I stop reading after I see anyone mention "1v1".
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Ive been playing a BW since release and although we deal damage, there are also alot destro healers that counteract our dps. Plus tanks are all over us asap and i seldom last more then 10 seconds with 3 people on me. I think the OP should create one and get a feel for how tough it is for a BW in pvp.
QFT. and any of the BW that come here and they say how hard they have it and how they die etc etc.. are poor players bc, like the above quoted player stated anyone with a little common sense and three buttons can do well.. if you did not do well as a BW then you are a very poor player. hands down
OK In almost all classes , order has the benifit of stronger classes. RP>Zeal, SW>BO, BW > sorc
However, its such a minor effect. PS i seen a magus on top meters (me), and a sorc (my bro). Maybe order just has higher class players.... nahh BW Do more damage its quite clear... but so what.
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Destruction Marauder and Witch Elf is better, and Sorceror is better at AE damage, I would say Shaman is better than Archamge ( I play both Shaman and Archmage ). And I think Black Orc is better than Swordmaster too.
Fix BW's?!?!?! What a laugh. Sounds like you ran into a GROUP of BWs that know how to play well together. How do you "fix" that?!?!?
Oooooh but it gets better as you get higher levels......my menace right now are groups of MAGUS that work together.....they use the good ol" "tractor beam and AOE spam" trick with each one cycling through (since it's like 30 sec timer)....now that SUCKS if your a tank! haha You better have some folks to "silence" them or it's going to be a very no-fun, long day for you. haha
But as has been hashed and rehashed and thrown up and re-eaten and debated and stomped on and re-addressed and over and over and over.....this is NOT a 1-vs-1 game. Each class has it's mirror and past that it has some classes it does better over versus others but the idea is to work as a team that knows how to play off their own strengths and weaknesses to make the OVERALL outcome in your favor. Crazy talk!?!?!? I know.... know....that might require some difficult math for the kiddies.
Maruder is not the equal to WE they are the equal to whitelions.
WE and WH are the pairing.
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BWs are more than fine. Like someone else said....role on to a decent level and youll see. Also the mirror class can also do just as well if played right.
If you are talking about imbalances i recommend lookin at WE vs WH. I think the WE is not OP at all...just so im clear...WE is NOT OP....but WH need to be brought up to their level.
And Shaman > AM but not by all that much.
BWs and Sorcereses can do amazing things if played right, but also have huge downsides.
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With a few exceptions each class has its identical counterpart, the BW counterpart is the Sorcerer, if the sorcerer you play with are not getting the same amount of damage as the BW, then odds are there not speced for max dps, or it could be there gear sucks... Gear and Weapons play a big part in this game..
It's funny because Destruction players say IB's are OP, and Order players say Black Orcs are OP.... around and around it goes....
Biggest problem I have with the game is the lack of tanks and healers on the order side, when I do scenarios were lucky if we get 1 or 2 healers or tanks in the group, 90% of the group is DPS'ers... This is only getting worse, seems nobody wants to play tanks or healers on the Order side..
Yeah but they are not identical they are similar.
I find it funny that most people fail to realize how op SW are. fight with or agist some good ones they tank like gods as long as spec right (they are often not).
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Depends on the server I guess. My usual problem in T4 is that there are too many healers.
BW is going to be the class that will be nerfed very soon. I played it, love it, but didnt like the fact of just having fire spells. It gets boring. And yes, BW is overpowered. At the moment, BW should be the first target along with healers. Dont bother with tanks!
BW are getting a nerf soon. It is most likely going to be a slight damge reduction. But even if they weren't getting a nerf, who cares? They alone do not make order overpowered one bit. Mauraders are much better then white lions, shamans better then archmages. The list goes on. Order has strengths and weaknesses, and destro has strengths and weaknesses. Ironbreakers are the best tanks in the game, for actually tanking. But chosen do medium damge while having great survivability.
Wins and losses in scenarios on my populated server are 50/50.
This is my take on the BW,
I have a lvl20 BW and although i am almost always in the top3 or 4 for damage in scenarios, i find that Sorcerers are also inthe top damage spots.
A Melee dps just needs to breathe on me and i die, even tanks can take me out with a couple of hits.
With all the hit points that Tanks have, couple with the fact that they will be healed, something or some class has to bring a lot of damage to the table else no one would die!
What I think they should do is to minimize DPS output and give them more defensive abilities. That way BWs dont burn you out in 3 seconds but at the same time they can hold longer.
People will probably have a better idea regarding balance when more have reached the max level, geared themselves properly and gained some experience based on all skills available and presented.
Until then everything is premature.
BW and Sorcerer are extremely vulnerable 1 on 1... to the point of it being a crying shame.
Yes, they can do a lot of DPS if left alone to just tee off from a distance, but that seldom happens against smart players.
Even so, witch hunters, witch elves and even engineers can often out-damage them on the scenario stats.
BW do a lot of Dmg, that is true but all it takes is someone looking there way and they fall over dead. They are glass cannons, massive Dmg but very easy to kill.