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Where lightsabers always so enormous?
Shoko_Lied
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Game looks awsome, but i couldnt help but to notice that the hilts are like two to three times bigger than normal, anyone else notice this? I wonder if its purposly part of the direction of the game, but it seemed kinda off-beat for jedi, well thats just what i got with my first impressions, who knows what will happen down the road.
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Lightsabers used to be attached to battery packs on the belt of the user and a cable would connect the pack to the hilt. Yeah. They used to be bigger and more archaic.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
With it being 3600 years earlier than the movies, I would expect the light sabre technology to be more archaic and thus have to be larger.
I actually noticed this and commented on it. It's kind of bothering me to be honest. The size has nothing to do with technological age. KOTOR takes place 4,000 years before the Galactic Empire.
This lightsaber was consstructed 10,000 years before the Galactic Empire. Notice any difference? No.
In fact I believe its the other way round**, technology was a lot more advanced during the old republic, in the time setting of the films things had stagnated somewhat, and gone backwards, there were no advances were being made. The 'Republic' had already been thru its Golden Age (in fact, after some googling KOTOR is actually set in the Republic Golden Age), the Mandalorian wars put an end to that.
Claiming lightsabres are larger because it was set in the past doesn't hold up I'm afraid
more like dodgy prealpha rubbish!
** I remember reading up on the Expanded Universe and it was mentioned, I can't find the source unfortunatly.
I agree. Just look at the technology in the ships from movies 1-3 vs 4-6. Im not sure if it was that way because of technology in our world or if GL wrote it that way.
I agree. Just look at the technology in the ships from movies 1-3 vs 4-6. Im not sure if it was that way because of technology in our world or if GL wrote it that way.
Hell, the Empire's ships during the films are in fact out of date, or scaled back versions of those used during the Golden Age of the Republic. When Palpatine assumed control of the Republic, he took with it the Fleet, so those ships you see, iconic to the Empire are really that of the Republic (old and new).
The Empire strangled any kind of advance in techonology, anything that could aid in the destruction of the Empire.
Overall technology perhaps, but I don't believe that this applied to lightsabers. TookyG was actually right when he said that powerpacks were connected to the lightsabers using powercables. They were highly unstable and could only be used for a short time. In fact, the powerpacks were removed only 1000 years before the Old Republic setting, if I'm not mistaken.
This is true, but the point is mute, the game takes place 300 years after the events of KOTOR, and lightsabres, according to the game, are not big a chunky as the (pre-alpha) would suggest.
Yeah I didn't know that they were attached to power packs. I can't belive how much lore Star Wars has, im sure I don't even know a fraction of the lore. While I am a fan Im just not that hardcore into the lore aspect of it. But from playing KOTOR it has helped some to know the some of the lore besides watching the movies.
But in 1000 years time im sure they could have made the lightsaber better. Just look how our technology has advanced in the last 100 years. Computers from the size of a room to ones that fit in your hand.
I would assume you are talking about the screenshot where the guy is force-choking the girl? I think the reason for the abnormally large lightsaber has to do with a poor attempt at making it appear more 3D by making the foreground appear closer or larger to the one viewing it.
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Yes, the strange thing here is that the handles and even the actual laser beam is incredibly FAT. The circumference is all wrong. I don't believe lightsabers were EVER that big, the lightsaber itself (as you can see in the picture I posted above) has always been fairly slim, even with powerpacks and cables.
I thought about this. Could be a bad screenshot. However, if you go around to the lightsaber duel screenshots (only 2 of them right now), and put em on full screen, you can see this abnormality present within them as well. The hilts seem to have the diameter of the user's arm.
yeah that's what I thought, but then again no one has come out to explain it yet. I do remember the art guy saying "All art is concept" including the screen shots.
Yeah I didn't know that they were attached to power packs. I can't belive how much lore Star Wars has, im sure I don't even know a fraction of the lore. While I am a fan Im just not that hardcore into the lore aspect of it. But from playing KOTOR it has helped some to know the some of the lore besides watching the movies.
But in 1000 years time im sure they could have made the lightsaber better. Just look how our technology has advanced in the last 100 years. Computers from the size of a room to ones that fit in your hand.
You'd think that, but with the rise of the Empire, techonology no longer progressed and began to devolve. Again, the Republic had been thru its Golden Age, and wouldn't have another till the Galatic Empire had fallen.
Plus I think with the lightsabre is a case of 'if it ain't broken, don't fix it'. The weapon had reached its peak and couldn't be improved upon. In any case, it doesn't seem like there was any cosmetic change to the lightsabre after KOTOR era, other than pure vanitys sake, or different crystals etc. But I've got nothing to base this on other than speculation.
hehe, I can't help but notice how Star Wars brings out the geek in people.
This ended around 4800 BBY, when an internal superconductor was introduced into lightsaber construction. This superconductor would transfer the returning looped energy from the negative-charged flux aperture back into power cell. With this modification, the power cell would only be drained when the energy loop was broken (which happened only when the lightsaber blade cut into something), thus removing the need for external battery packs.
Oops, I think my geek is showing...
Anyway, the lightsabers around the KotOR era looked pretty much like the ones in the Rebellion era (as shown in the Tales of the Jedi comics - they were slightly bigger though, but that may just be the artistic style of the comics). The ones in the screenshots are ridiculously huge by comparison, and I hope that's one of the few artistic things that will change during game development
i cant help to think how much better this game is going to be then SWG.
I have to agree that the lightsabers in the screenshots look abnormally large. I think that they felt it would look better that way, or perhaps it allowed them to make the lightsabers more customizable. Maybe they thought that the WoW gamer would be so used to large and unwieldly weapons that they would want bigger lightsabers to compensate.
Or perhaps they are compensating for something else??
"And today you'll hear how this hero, who could, before the accident, grow many many times his normal size and remain that way, all day if necessary, a proud unbending rock-hard pillar of justice, a rigid staff of liberty, that hero is left lifeless. He is nothing now, so small."
Yea the lightsabers look way way way too big.
They are almost as big as the people weilding them, even the double sided light saber in ep 1 wasnt as bulky looking as the ones in those screen shots.
Hopefully they change that, because that would bug the hell out of me.
seems like alot of games lately are going with that anime style art where weapons are overly big hehe.
i mean the game is gonna be on consoles i believe..so they are gonna wanna attract the younger folks...>.>
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Yes, the lightsabers are much to big. They should be shrunk to normal KOTOR size.
But there is hope. Look at this screenshot from LotRo Alpha, and compare it with today:
www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/45/view/screens/house/13/display/3664
Its early and hopefully before the game comes out they tweek it a bit.
the graphics are going to go threw many many differnet changes, by the end the game will look millions times better than it does now.
They have stated that the lightsabers will shrink.
Want to give us a quote, a link or some sort of reference? Maybe even tell us who "they" are since you are using a pronoun with no prior referenced noun?
Or I assume you'll be like the rest of the asshats here and just leave it at that.