vanguard Sucks! (yes that is in fact a capital s) vanguard has no chance of doing ANYTHING but maybe pulling in some of the people who are too soft to play wow. the only way to make vanguard not suck would be to remove all the pansy features like tomb stone dragging & warping+ balance crafting, and get rid of the crafting channel (how does it make sense in ANY fantasy game that you can talk to people miles away? i mean sci fi sure, they have radios....how the hell do fantasy nerds explain it though?). not 1 game SOE makes is worth the sub. diplomacy....something ill do RIGHT before i blow my own head off, and even then only for 5 min. THAT isnt content. darkfall i wont talk shit about because i havent played through it (therefore i dont know shit about it and would only look like a moron talking about something i know nothing about) and screen shots paint 1/10 a picture. note: nobody releases a game vid to make the game look like crap. gonna just wait and see. i dont know what anyone expected out of war, i mean wasnt it obvious it would be a wow nerds wet dream? definately didnt look to me like DAOC at all.
Too soft to play WOW? This has to be the best line I have ever read...I couldn't even type that without laughing.
I think you summed up your post with the red line there.
Offering more exp in open rvr probably won't help much. WAR is not like daoc at all unfortunately. The scenarios have really hurt the spirit of the game.
As for Darkfall, beta has been right around the corner for several years. Lets say the beta really does start in December, you really expect the game to be released at the end of the month? If there is a closed beta even going on now or soon, a game can't really accomplish much is just 2 months of beta testing. If DF is released at the end of this year, the best it could be is mediocre.
Supposedly, the only problem with DF all these years was they had no publisher. If that were the case, then they still could have had a beta. Also, if it was so close to finished and testing, several publishers would not have just jumped ship. Seriously, do not expect the game to come out in a couple months! If it does, without the proper testing, it will be crap.
I do want Darkfall to come out and be a quality game, but I expect absolutely nothing from it. I was too hopeful already like 5-6 years ago. I see the same eagerness now that i did about Dark and Light and we all know what happened there, lol. I even saw the AoC disaster (mostly since I don't trust funcom is any of their endeavors).
Sorry got off topic. i think it is too little too late for WAR. it will do well because a lot of people like the scenario style of play, but I was very disappointed. The funny thing is, in the closed beta, I did more open RvR and testing of characters at high levels than scenarios. The game was 2 completely different experiences for me. Wouldn't have bought it if the beta was that way for me.
so play RVR and gain what maybe 3k in a hour or so or play a 15 min scenario and gain 8k, Decisions like this are tough.
sorry guys but scenarios killed this game, if i wanted to play instenced battlegrounds i would play Guildwars and the sad part is Guildwars does it way better.
this game was supposed to be about Relm vs Relm not team vs team, although it was not as big of a disappointment as AOC but its up there.
i still can't believe they haven't toned down scenario exp/ren by 75% or more yet. yes they would lose some people but they would keep a whole lot more.
Open RvR experience for killing players raised 100% along with the recent 50% increase, it now offers double the experience of scenarios. Try to whine now, I really want to see you try.
Still sucks, Mythic failed, nobody is rvring, now they made it easy mode...super epic fail...now people will just rush to end game and be noobs that don't know their class.
=P
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
It's good. Now lets see people start taking advantage of it!
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I hate to say it, and it's probably already been pointed out, but this WON'T bring people back en-masse to Open RvR - it's only good incentives for holding a keep/taking a Keep/OB that will.
The reason - for 10 minutes effort, players get a scorecard at the end of a scenario that usually has a BIG number - i.e. it's completely visible to the user that XP that they have gotten from that 10 minutes of victory/defeat.
A larger amount of xp trickling in from killing players over a 1-2 hour peroid ISN'T immediately visible and clear. Purely from a psychological perspective, people will stil continue to do Scenario's.
But everyone TOLD MJ that this wasn't the miracle fix - so I guess we need to wait for the follow-up.
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I laughed
Very true, very funny.
Why hide the sigs? I like to see how funny some people's are, SgtFrog's is pretty far up there on my list of Liberace-ish sigs.
Probably some of the best news I've read in a while.
Levelling in WAR is slow, imho. It probably has a lot more to do with the class that I'm playing, however, than the game itself. I do think there is a 'grind' to the game. This news helps move that grind along in a big way.
WoW should've done something like this to save their open world PvP game, but they didn't.
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Too soft to play WOW?
This has to be the best line I have ever read...I couldn't even type that without laughing.
I think you summed up your post with the red line there.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
So that will fix all the other issues that need to be addressed?
Offering more exp in open rvr probably won't help much. WAR is not like daoc at all unfortunately. The scenarios have really hurt the spirit of the game.
As for Darkfall, beta has been right around the corner for several years. Lets say the beta really does start in December, you really expect the game to be released at the end of the month? If there is a closed beta even going on now or soon, a game can't really accomplish much is just 2 months of beta testing. If DF is released at the end of this year, the best it could be is mediocre.
Supposedly, the only problem with DF all these years was they had no publisher. If that were the case, then they still could have had a beta. Also, if it was so close to finished and testing, several publishers would not have just jumped ship. Seriously, do not expect the game to come out in a couple months! If it does, without the proper testing, it will be crap.
I do want Darkfall to come out and be a quality game, but I expect absolutely nothing from it. I was too hopeful already like 5-6 years ago. I see the same eagerness now that i did about Dark and Light and we all know what happened there, lol. I even saw the AoC disaster (mostly since I don't trust funcom is any of their endeavors).
Sorry got off topic. i think it is too little too late for WAR. it will do well because a lot of people like the scenario style of play, but I was very disappointed. The funny thing is, in the closed beta, I did more open RvR and testing of characters at high levels than scenarios. The game was 2 completely different experiences for me. Wouldn't have bought it if the beta was that way for me.
open rvr is so full of bugs that only guilds do it to get gear form heroes.
theres really no point in wasting time sieging etc.
anyway Fallout 3 coming out bye bye WAR and the destruction biased crappy rvr gaming.
Hahaha, please tell me where can I buy this awesome game ?
Download it digitally
so play RVR and gain what maybe 3k in a hour or so or play a 15 min scenario and gain 8k, Decisions like this are tough.
sorry guys but scenarios killed this game, if i wanted to play instenced battlegrounds i would play Guildwars and the sad part is Guildwars does it way better.
this game was supposed to be about Relm vs Relm not team vs team, although it was not as big of a disappointment as AOC but its up there.
i still can't believe they haven't toned down scenario exp/ren by 75% or more yet. yes they would lose some people but they would keep a whole lot more.
Still sucks, Mythic failed, nobody is rvring, now they made it easy mode...super epic fail...now people will just rush to end game and be noobs that don't know their class.
=P
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
OP:
It's good. Now lets see people start taking advantage of it!
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Nightsorrow, let me introduce you to a friend of mine:
The Incredible Comma!
You can find him on YOUR keyboard, between the M key and the . key.
But what can I do with this "comma"?
Why, I'll tell you! The Incredible Comma allows you to list several things in a row!
But I can just seperate things with the Enter key...
Yes, and it makes you look like a huge douche.
Nightsorrow, let me introduce you to a friend of mine:
The Incredible Comma!
You can find him on YOUR keyboard, between the M key and the . key.
But what can I do with this "comma"?
Why, I'll tell you! The Incredible Comma allows you to list several things in a row!
But I can just seperate things with the Enter key...
Yes, and it makes you look like a huge douche.
qft
I hate to say it, and it's probably already been pointed out, but this WON'T bring people back en-masse to Open RvR - it's only good incentives for holding a keep/taking a Keep/OB that will.
The reason - for 10 minutes effort, players get a scorecard at the end of a scenario that usually has a BIG number - i.e. it's completely visible to the user that XP that they have gotten from that 10 minutes of victory/defeat.
A larger amount of xp trickling in from killing players over a 1-2 hour peroid ISN'T immediately visible and clear. Purely from a psychological perspective, people will stil continue to do Scenario's.
But everyone TOLD MJ that this wasn't the miracle fix - so I guess we need to wait for the follow-up.
Currently Playing Nothing...
lol, that mean the game is really screwed up.
Nightsorrow, let me introduce you to a friend of mine:
The Incredible Comma!
You can find him on YOUR keyboard, between the M key and the . key.
But what can I do with this "comma"?
Why, I'll tell you! The Incredible Comma allows you to list several things in a row!
But I can just seperate things with the Enter key...
Yes, and it makes you look like a huge douche.
Hiding signatures altogether is your friend. Look it up in your profile. Cuts down on unecessary noise considerably.
Nightsorrow, let me introduce you to a friend of mine:
The Incredible Comma!
You can find him on YOUR keyboard, between the M key and the . key.
But what can I do with this "comma"?
Why, I'll tell you! The Incredible Comma allows you to list several things in a row!
But I can just seperate things with the Enter key...
Yes, and it makes you look like a huge douche.
I laughed
I like the sens so whats the problem?
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
I laughed
Very true, very funny.
Why hide the sigs? I like to see how funny some people's are, SgtFrog's is pretty far up there on my list of Liberace-ish sigs.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
Even if leveling was quick the game would still blow. The combat is just... undescribably bad.
Probably some of the best news I've read in a while.
Levelling in WAR is slow, imho. It probably has a lot more to do with the class that I'm playing, however, than the game itself. I do think there is a 'grind' to the game. This news helps move that grind along in a big way.
WoW should've done something like this to save their open world PvP game, but they didn't.
No