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Blizz censors feedback
sumo_koten
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On the Blizzard forums there has been plenty of feedback on the zombie plague event but it seems that any threads that contain negative feedback are deleted almost as fast as they are created. I tried posting on a couple of the threads only to find that the thread was gone before I could finish typing my post.
Any threads containing positive feedback on the event however are kept on the forum, is this the kind of treatment paying customers should expect from their service providers. This kind of censorship is immoral and outrageous!
I personally thought that the zombie plague was fun the first couple of times I got turned into a zombie but now griefers are using the event to ensure that all the noobs are destroyed as much as possible which is causing some people to quit the game. Also griefers are using the event to kill all the quest giving NPC's and to prevent people from participating in anything but the zombie event. I for one will be glad when this stupid event is over and I hope it is not repeated ever again.
Whether you like the event or not, whether you are one of the griefers or not, my main point is that Blizzard is preventing poeple from expressing their displeasure on the forums which are meant for that very purpose. BAD FORM BLIZZARD!!!
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agreed!
Its just as bad as aoc forums now. Its really sad to see your thread deleted in under a minute. I expected this behavior from a company like funcom but blizzard.
Well I just want to say I think that's really terrible. You couldn't turn in your quest, and I bet your quest was pretty important. What right have grief players to interfere with your obsessive-compulsive behavior? Blizzard should not be censoring the opinions of people who complain on their forums about such a dire situation as this and with such well thought-out arguments. Everybody's opinion is important, and you're not just a bunch of whining children who ought to be taken away in dumptrucks. You're World of Warcraft players, and you deserve to be treated with respect.
einexile the meek
Vacuos, Winterlong, Vaciante, Eicosapenta
Atlantean, Tyranny, Malton
I sense sarcasm in your words... My only question is thus, Do you even like mmos?
I sense sarcasm in your words... My only question is thus, Do you even like mmos?
I think you need to brush up on your irony.
hmmm last time i saw this (and i still do) is in the SWG forums with the NGE...
all negative comments where deleted, even the ones that where well formulated, well written, with facts and intelligent logic.
this is a bad business strategy. then again... its their forums, they are the owners and there is nothing in the contract/EULA that prevents them from doing so
sucks, but thats what happens when greed and power trip comes in.
Ah. Blizzard isn't deleting the 'anti-plague' posts. they are consildating them into existing threads. There are two VERY LONG anti-plague posts on the first page of posts which have 100's of posts and haven't been deleted... there is no reason for people to start a new thread to say 'and my opinion is..'.
You are more than free to post your opinion, just use one of the big threads already going.
I'm personally pretty 'blah' on the event. The Public Quest type things going on under the necropolis are fun, but you really have to be careful in towns. I do think it's cool that players can choose for themselves how messed up they want to make things. Basically the plague dies if players want to let it. My server is being pretty cool. High level healers are running through Ogrimmar curing players who are trying to spread the plague.
Its a temporary event that will be gone after ten days, if your telling me you can't ride out those ten days thats kinda sad.
Why do they censor their threads, because it'd be retarded not to, who really wants to read about people crying about an event that was posted about and this is not the first time this event has happened, however it will be the last time.
Why not enjoy it for the 10 days it will EVER BE HERE.
This is not seasonal, this is a one time event, one of the few that has ever happened EVER.
Its adding flavor and mischief, sorry if you don't have a sense of humor just don't log in for a few days.
(WARNING GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE MAY CHANGE WITH ONLINE PLAY)
From what I hear, high level players are going to low level areas to oneshot low level players... I also hear that the NPC guards in those same areas are stupidly high in level, so when they turn zombie they too one shot lowbies...
Is getting one hit killed fun for you? Is that smart game design?
Sometimes subscribers are right to complain (or whine as you put it) since they are paying for a service they no longer have access to due to griefing and are paying for a game they did not buy.
Being critical of the designers bad decisions and giving valid reasons why they are bad should be encouraged - it makes games better and makes the designers think harder before they hand emotionally disturbed players a tool that could be used to grief fellow gamers.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
It's the people who get upset over this stuff who are emotionally disturbed, not the ones who are enjoying it. One shotting low level players is poor form because it denies them the humilation of a properly drawn out murder. That aside, the way this works is it's in our interests both to keep them alive for as long as possible. We self-heal from attacking them, and if they die they don't turn zombie and can't help us. And won't want to if we've pissed them off.
Zombie players aren't griefing anyone. We're doing what we're supposed to do as part of the event. The people who are out of line are the ones who behave as though they have a right to not have their progress bar humping disrupted by a world event. It's not as if this was a surprise to anyone. WoW has a history of this and MMOs in general have a history of it.
einexile the meek
Vacuos, Winterlong, Vaciante, Eicosapenta
Atlantean, Tyranny, Malton
My main point was the deletion of threads with negative comments while threads with positive comments were left alone. I don't actually care whether you like or dislike the event itself, I personally just happen to dislike it.
Pull your head out for just a few moments and realise that this thread is not about whether you like or dislike griefers or events that allow griefers to ruin the game for some people.
My main point is that blizz is removing negative threads and keeping the positive ones, thus they are censoring the forums!
Sigh.... once again this comes up. Official forums are paid for by the Developers. They are free to delete whatever they want to from them, after all it's their forums. You do not have a constitutional right to uncensored game forums.
You don't like it, you come to a forum like this one, and complain here. It might get deleted, but probably not.
If you really don't like it, put up your own forums and you will control the content.
Now, as a consumer, if either the event itself, or the deletion of your forum posts really piss you off, then you have the right to take your money elsewhere.
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I would say it is worse, on the AoC forums there are still negative threads, they are usually just deleting the rude or the pointless ones and many of them are locked, not deleted.
Anyways, certain negative threads should be deleted, like cursing rude ones without a point. Good feedback should always be kept even if it is negative, otherwise the devs are shooting themself in the foot.
I am laughing so hard...people say how boring a game is and this and that....the minute they put in a event the same complainers come out of the closet.
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines
What's that got to do with what I'm saying here?
What's that got to do with what I'm saying here?
Nothing really, it was a general observation.
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines
Deleting a thread with negative feedback would seem to me to be counter-productive. The people commenting on the forums are the ones who are ultimately paying for the forum and the salaries of Blizzard employees, that is the paying customers. Why have a forum if you are not going to allow a bit of criticism.
I agree that the customer always has the right to take their money elsewhere, and that is probably happening right now over this. I simply posted this thread here because the posts I made on the WoW official forums were being deleted and I wanted to have my say. That's what forums are for!
Infact, at the moment you can not "take your money Elseware" the Blizzard website account managment payment method page is largely unavailable. Many of the members of my guild who have decided to stop paying blizzard for all of their disrespect to players have found it unreachable.
4 posts of mine were deleted moments after i listed them. My posts were formal and polite yet negative on the Zombie event and informative of the current situation and state of players opinions.
Blizzard >>> IS <<< deleting posts that were made by paying customers. As someone pointed out in this topic, the forum is owned by Blizzard and they have the right to remove anything they want. Yet WE the players pay them for it.
The event aside, Blizzard has demonstrated its will. and in response, I "will" not pay them anymore and "will" not buy ROTLK.
As far as other Forums such as this one. LOOK FOR BLIZZARD EMPLOYEES TO BE POSTING RESPONSES IN ALL PUBLIC FORUMS IN AN ATTEMPT TO DEFUSE THIS SITUATION
MORE PEOPLE ARE ANGRY THAN YOU THINK AND BLIZZARD IS IN AN ALL OUT PANIC TO SUPRESS PLAYERS COORDINATING AND COMMUNICATING THEIR ANGER.
I really hope you people leave the game, freaking morons, there were already a few topics on it, blizzard doesnt need every single person having their own topic so they cleaned things up, you have no rights on their forums you should be glad they even have them for you to cry on.
They have even responded and said the event will go on and will take they feed back into consideration for the next time, if you can't handle this type of thing happening in a game, please stop playing them, games aren't made for uptight people who wouldn't know fun if it slapped them in the face. If your so damn uptight about things like this go play bingo or something more your speed.
Edit: also if you can't follow their posting rules then your posts will get deleted, but i'm sure you all are innocent -rolls eyes-
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
I play on a PVE server for a REASON. I suspect that people who make comments like this are actually Blizzard Employees continuing to attempt to supress Opinions.
As for your claim that we have no rights on the forum. WE PAY FOR IT!! Blizzard would have no funds for or need to supply such a thing if nobody paid. In short WE OWN IT. It is the payers who keep Blizzard Employees paid.
I however am no longer one of them.
and on a personal note. you sound like a comunist. Take "your" opinion to Russia and use it to lite a match. Throw the match on a pile of books and the country will embrace you.
and about this: Nevermind what haters say, ignore them ''til they fade away. If you have so little respect for people, you have no rights to share your opinion anyway. Obviously you are too superior to bother with those of us down here on earth. And i suppose your definition of "Hater" if far more broad and inclusive than Webster's would provide.
This sort of thing doesn't suprise me to be honest, people have praised Blizzard till blue in the face and when something negative is posted they delete it. sounds like censoring things so they get only good reviews and good critique to me..
Some people have even said they may quit over this event in forums, so I'll re-post what i posted in a thread about this event but worded differently as i can't remember exact words lol..
Players who continue to defend blizzard by putting up with this sort of thing only leave themselves open for it happening again, and again, and again.. I'm beginning to believe the WoW players were right when they said that "the only thing that can or will kill WoW is Blizzard"..
If the players who are annoyed or frustrated at this sort of event don't voice their opinions on it or those opinions are deleted then Blizzard will continue to do this sort of thing, believing they can do anything and still retain ALL their players.
Agreed. Blizzard believes they are unreachable.
Personally, i hope Star Trek Online "Dworfs" wow. cant wait.
I play on a PVE server for a REASON. I suspect that people who make comments like this are actually Blizzard Employees continuing to attempt to supress Opinions.
As for your claim that we have no rights on the forum. WE PAY FOR IT!! Blizzard would have no funds for or need to supply such a thing if nobody paid. In short WE OWN IT. It is the payers who keep Blizzard Employees paid.
I however am no longer one of them.
and on a personal note. you sound like a comunist. Take "your" opinion to Russia and use it to lite a match. Throw the match on a pile of books and the country will embrace you.
and about this: Nevermind what haters say, ignore them ''til they fade away. If you have so little respect for people, you have no rights to share your opinion anyway. Obviously you are too superior to bother with those of us down here on earth. And i suppose your definition of "Hater" if far more broad and inclusive than Webster's would provide.
I play on a PVE server also, and no you don't have any rights on the forum, you pay to access their servers and that is it, doesn't matter what they do with the money after you pay for it, even if they wipe their asses with it, it isn't your money anymore so they can do as they please. Its a good thing you are no longer playing, people like you ruin games, you act as if blizzard should cater the game just around your uptight ass.
I have little respect for people who throw tantrums because they can't handle things, i can tell your the type that screams and crys about everything, mmo's don't need people like you playing in them, they are better off with people who know how to have fun, not people who sit and scream at their screen because they aren't being catered too.
But i'll express my Opinions as i please, just like i know you'll scream and fume at your monitor at every little thing that happens, don't like it use the ignore feature
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
You are attempting to counter my post. By reducing my personal character and using dominating expressions to make a point, it sounds more like you are one of the Blizzard employees i refer to.
One question. I understand why i am upset. what i dont understand is why people like you are seeking out these posts and countering our outrage. Players who enjoy the event are too busy playing to be here worried about my opinion. Either you are nosing into business that does not concern you, or it concerns you because you are one of the persons spreading rhetoric to deflate this issue.
Either way, your opinion and others like it are not the issue here. The issue here is that Blizzard has told us to get F*#!%!. if you support this notion, be my guest. Yet you will not find support from me, nor will you change our opinions of this matter with your disaproval of our opinions. Infact, your opinion is exactly the sort of responce we got from Blizzard.
tell me again, where is the ignore button?