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What is a "tough" career to play?
ParkCarsHere
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My main is a R37 Rune Priest, a career I find extremely easy to play well, so I'm interested in making an alt that will require a bit more thinking on my feet.
I've messed around with a lot of the careers but haven't really gotten a feel on how difficult each might be to play. I'm just wondering what you guys think are tough careers to master/do well with.
EDIT: Just as a note, I'm not looking for careers that are hard because they are broken... if all the careers were perfectly balanced, which career would be tough to master? All careers are going to go through changes, so I don't want to play one just because it's broken now and might be tough to play.
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Maybe a battle priest... desto.. would say a magus
From my experience i found the squig herder to be a pretty difficult class to play. You can get dropped fairly easily so you have to be careful for those tanks, but your pet can be a great caster killer. The squig herder is difficult to play (not because the class is broken either) but if you can play the class correctly you can kick ass.
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Warrior priest is challenging as a hybrid role. You need to engage in front-line melee in order to build up enough points to heal, so you need to multi-task and keep track of multiple targets. You are not quite strong enough to tank and you can't heal unless you do damage, and you can't out-dps a lot of the pure dps classes.
It was also boring as hell like every other class.
Go roll a gnome death knight in WotLK.
I have to agree with Deathtripp on this one, I have played a WP, BW, SM, Chosen, Sorc and Magus and Squig herder up through the mid 30s and out of all those the SH was probably the most challenging to play (I have been meleed to death by a AM before).
The pet is sub par and not really a threat at all (more of a annoyance in RvR) and with your ranged ability you have to be selective in what skills you use (any dots on tank classes and straight out damage on the casters). I have to say, they are much needed in sieges as well so any SH is a welcome when taking a keep from enemy forces.
Shadow Warrior definitely.
You need to constantly change stances which change your whole available skill sets. And you have to do it while constantly moving around. Atm the class could use some love, thats certain, but imo the basic mechanics are very challenging on their own.
Oh and SW is a mirror of Squig Herder mentioned in above post so lots of these points apply to SW as well.
Either of the Melee healers.
Squig Herders are quite broken since your either try to attack opposing teams frontliner and then dish out only minor damage and do what a BW could've done better. The class isn't hard since you either attack their frontliners or try to accomplish something by attacking their squishies and then instantly blow up because you lack any forms of defense at all pretty much. From what I've seen in WAR the most classes are pretty much straightforward non-skill requiring zergrush encouraging classes. Sure there are some hybrids that probably requires a slight amount of time input to learn and master but in the end they're not very tough. Fow now just pick a squishy midliner and try to be good with that while not attacking their frontliners but rather trying to kill midliners or backliners.
Warrior Priest or Disciple of Khaine. Both require the most skill to play effectively.
The following is a quote I came cross the other day on the warhammeralliance Warrior Priest forums:
I like the Warrior Priest most, but to play that class to it's best potential you need 3 hands.
Gonna have to agree here..
SW has it rough these days.
I am experimenting on a Assault Stance spec right now and let me tell you, I am kinda surprised by it (in a good way), but then again, people play classes differently than one another.
Thanks a lot for the replies so far. Very informative.
I'm actually having a lot of fun with my Shadow Warrior alt, but I feel like all RDPS classes are fairly easy to play... I think that's why www.waralytics.com/warclasses/index is showing a huge increase in RDPS classes as opposed to MDPS classes.
I will mention that the fact that there are SO many Warrior Priests and SO many DoKs that it kinda disuades me from playing one. I'm not saying they all play their class effectively, but there sure are a lot of them ,lol.
I'm interested in seeing some more replies... very helpful so far! (except for the random troll post towards the beginning... but that was expected)
I have found that dwarven egeinners can be a bit of a challange to play, that or as some mentioned the squig herder is a challange to play but fun. My 4 favortie classes though are Chosen, Bright Wizard, shammy, and ironbreaker.
SH doesnt have stances... and SW doesnt have pet.... but Marauder have something like stances (mutation) and White Lion have pets....
I guess, I dont have to say the rest...
I can tell you that WP and doks are the hardest to manage , melee combat heals , you get focus fire alot , and manage your fury pool demands alot of skill , if not no heals .
i got mine to rk40 and if specs for salvation/grace which is my favorite spec have great group heal support in teams .
Sw are kinda tough also because of the stance swtiching but am mostly in scout mode and in short range mode when defending keep stairs .
i dont use assault much unless am running away reason i switch to it .
but imo wp and doks are the hardest class to play and not many are great at them , it takes a whole 30 tanks to really understand their roles that why and once you figure it out it's a nice class very strong in pve and solo and great support in rvr .
SH doesnt have stances... and SW doesnt have pet.... but Marauder have something like stances (mutation) and White Lion have pets....
I guess, I dont have to say the rest...
SW and SH are mirrior because they both are ranged dps mainly . yes Sw can melee and SH too but is it really worthwhile at rank40 , no because your instanly dead trust me on this .
i rather go scout with my SW any day .
yeah WL have a pet but atm it's a real joke they die so fast
SH doesnt have stances... and SW doesnt have pet.... but Marauder have something like stances (mutation) and White Lion have pets....
I guess, I dont have to say the rest...
Mirror classes are similar but not the same.
SW has the mechanics of both the marauder and the SH, but plays like a SH. Same thing with a White Lion. Mechanics of both, but plays like a marauder.
I like this thread so I'll join in with my humble experience (none of my chars had made it past 21, not goin above that till I find the worst class and use it, Im an underdog, though and through)
Shadow Warrior - easy, easy easy to play. Also easy to be killed. the stance thing is awesome, nothing like switching to assualt and smoking those chosen haha. But for real, its fairly easy to be an SW right now cause there not the target, are healers are, so we pretty much protect the healers. So its shot,shot, shot move,shot,shot,shot,move and repeat. But they are so easy to kill. Decent damage (all those many will disagree, but there output is consitantly decent)
Warrior Priest - My second favorite so far, even though there not the worst class, just very challenging to play well. Sure I can medicore heal and damage, but the key is being able to decide what s more important at the time. Alot of WP's miss out on causeing damage to just heal, this can be just as much a problem as someone who barely heals and focus on dps (not as much as a problem but each class was designed for certain purposes and WP's are to hurt and heeal)
Bright Wizard - Probably the most boring imo, blew sumthin up and blow yourself up. Don't get me wrong, there not a bad class. I just don't like suicide lol. Easy to play imo.
Archmage - I love playing a healer, and these guys are decent. They lack the healing skills of a runepriest or zealot, but they can get the job done. Damage wise, decnt. IMO an archmage shaman should be dpsing as well. They should be able to adapt to the situtation. There survivability makes them tough as healers are the target. So challenging to stay alive sometimes, and to play they way its ment.
Sword Master - Interesting, these guys are interesting to play since some abilities require diffrent stances, and since each hit edits yur chance you must pick the right one. And when you have to waste a stance on a snar opposed to a good hit, or use a stance to further your defence opposed to a good hit, requires you to put alot of thought into your hotkey set-up and desicions are always diffrent depending of the flow of the battle.
Chosen - Voted best looking imo, but as far as challenging. Not really. Basiclly standard. The only challenge is to keep your buffs switched around to get benfits from your multiple buffs and getting skilled its in as well.
Zealot - My favorite. I love these guys. These guys are the bread and butter healers. The ones who make a diffrence. These guys are tough to play cause you gotta make the decision who lives and who dies. ALOT of battle rest on a skilled zealot/runepriest. Very fun and just topping the charts isn't skill. Its winning the fight for your team, which makes these guys tough to play.
Squig Herder - fun fun fun. Chaallenging as well. There ranged damage is medium imo, and choice of pet and career path are very important when it comes to these guys. I never seen a tree effect a class as much as these guys. Your whole battle plan depends on your tree, it really does. And if your like me you go with the most fun which is the path of quick shootin (65 foot range attacks) which keep you near the front of the battle. Very challenging tee to be specced in, but imo it supplies one of the hardest challenges in all/
As you can see, I have tried more Order then Destro. (I like being the underdog) But chosen look so awesome all geared up, I don't play dwarfs, so zealots come before them (I love the best healers but I am no dwarf)
Imo the biggest challenge is the warrior priest. But any healer really is a challenge, especially half hybrid or somewhat hybrid (Archmage) because there decisions really make a diffrence. So the biggest challenge are hybrid healers (Playing them well is the challenge)
These are just my experiences, others may differ. But when it comes to playing classes they way it should be. Those are my picks according to what I played. But Im looking for the suckiest, class/spec to play. Right now its a melee squigherder. (So hard not to go range with these guys, but they really suck as melee lol).
Enjoy : )
i'll say that the witch classes gives you the best option to play with in this case! Not because they are difficult to score a kill with or needs alot in skillbar use, but because they require the most knowledge of the flow of battle to really shine with. In some setups they really have the odds against them and therefore require alot of tactical and strategic cunning to manage. And they will challenge your thinking alot, as well, mainly in how to make a difference for your team in scenarios. I think most other roles are pretty straightforward to play in most cases, but the witch classes is all about timing and understanding whats going on and when to interfere.
The witch classes is properly the ones where there is the biggest difference between a master and a not so skilled player!
Very, very interesting post, Gregtheexcon. I also am a person who tries to find, not necessarily the "worst" class, but definitely the underdog class.
I will agree with you completely, 100% about the Shadow Warrior. That has been my "main alt" for a while now, and I have found it a very easy class to play. Stand back and shoot with a bow, and NEVER get targetted, be it Scenarios or open RvR. Still, it's a very fun class.
I find that healers are fairly easy to play in this game, mainly because of the detaunt and because of people who have blinders on and never target you. With that said, I feel that a MDPS career is the hardest to play, since you'll always be targeted and always be in the thick of it. RDPS is very easy to play in WAR as a whole.