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Pelagato
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Every character should start as a Jedi or Sith... everyplayer is Jedi or Sith... that can be great! otherwise.. a melt of jedi/stih and other classes... is crap... like galaxies... why... because jedis/siths are meant to be powerful... nerfing them for some balancing make the star wars mytho of jedi/sith own look bad... therefore no star wars at all...
to fix the problem there is only two ways... no jedi and sith at all... or all jedi and sith at all....
the mytho of jedi > everyone isnt balance... but breaking the mytho is like a big dog CRAP all over the place....
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Except for the fact that nearly all jedi were wiped out by Mandalorian clones...who were just soldiers for the most part.
Dont take it bad.... but that isnt really a fact at all...
Mandos are a like tough juggernauts.. not just soldiers for the most part..and to make things more complicated the mando homeworld was filled with some mineral only found there that was able to resist lightsabers... later on in the new republic Cortosis... (by the way is an equivalent not the same)...
OH and mandos didnt killed all jedis.. or almost all.. what really killed the jedi and sith... was the Jedi Civil War, and the Great Civil War....
Mandos got screwed up by republic... by a big advantage with only soldiers for the most part... in other words a bunch of soldiers for the most part killed almost all mandos...
Oh by the way... even a droideka can pose a more dangerous threat to a Jedi lol....
Ok??? if u really want to play a game where is is just Jedi and sith go play SWG, i mean really? wut fun is it if every one had force powers?? I played SWG Pre-CU and i thought the game was amazing becuase u were living in the Star Wars universe, and i liked how u had to work to be a jedi and when people saw a jedi they were like holy **** a jedi i mean that was awsome, if they make it hard to be a jedi and make people work for it then they can go ahead and be an OP class. i mean im with u on jedi are suppost to be God-like.
How fun is see a game in where everyone is complaining of how crap jedi are compared to the jedis in the rest of the star wars lore like movies and other games...?
Jedi/Sith Ownage... for that reason everyone Jedi/Sith and u have the mytho covered and balance... there is no other way lol... otherwise jedi sith will looke nerfed or no starwars feeling at all...
and u can make things more interesting... like all jedis... but u can select which force power u want... or how powerful u want them... or if you want to be a kickass baseball blaster batter... or a nice stylize saber cutter.. lol...
like a jedi guarding.. sentinel.. or Sith Aggresor or Sith Warrior.. and so on... oh and Sith Marauder...
Galaxies blunder was allow Jedis... thats all.. that mix of Jedis and uncle owens... didnt work well.. unbalance... but if u nerf jedi... bye bye star wars mytho....
That is why i said make it very hard to become a jedi, then make them the WOW locks of the Star Wars universe, if people complain about how powerful jedi's are then let them complain becuase i am sure that Bioware is not going to make the same mistakes as SOE (thank god that SOE doesnt have a part of this)
The place is going to get filled with whinners and sniveling kids... because there is no balance.. and u know how unbalanced games end up...
there is never going to be a good MMO that has balanced classes if every class was balanced i really dont see the fun in that because now ur not relying on the players skill or knoledge of the game
balance in the sense of power in their roles... ok....
but have one character... that appear from nowhere and kick 20 players in 10 seconds from each profesion isnt cool....
Let me make one thing clear....
All Jedis and Siths... in their roles...
Jedis with speciality in saber.. other in healing.. other in defense and so on...
Sith with tanking... dps.. and healing.. and such and such and such... bioware or whoever the dervs of thsi game are should get creative on this aspect...
by the way I am going to bed... one other thing... I am not a fanboi of thsi game...
FOR FUCK SAKE STOP WITH THE BALANCE BULLSHIT. IN A MMO, PLAY YOUR CHARACTER. If your not supposed to be able to take down jedi or a BH or a soldier on your own. Then stay the fuck away from them unless you are part of a group that you can support with your skills or vice verca.
FUCK. If you want balance, then just get rid of all classes and stick with a single class. HECK let all avatars look the same too, with the same clothes and same weapons. That should cut development time considerably.
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Amen
No, it's not cool being a whiney guy in a bathrobe who also has to be celibate. I'd rather be a gunslinging smart-mouthed scoundrel or a agile tactiCOOL special forces member or a power-hungry crimelord looking for the greatest treasure of all or maybe the sociopath droid who defines love as a perfect shot from an Aratech sniper rifle...
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Oh crap here we go. The guy who thinks HE'S the guru of SW lore and thinks HE is all knowing and nobody knows SW better than HE does and evryone should thank god HE'S here to edumacate us lesser folks.
You realize all this is just your opinion and not the be all end all of SW.
Jedi were rare. Even at the top of Jedi population. So having a game full of Jedi running around with glowbats won't work. If you want that, go play Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Academy.
In my opinion, starwars is not a good setting for a mmorpg. Its a good setting for a single player rpg. This is why they are taking the story driven approach, to make it feel and play like a single player rpg.
Yay! what he said.
Wont believe it but actually if u are strong against someone and weak against other ones... u have the rock paper scissor balance aproach... still balance...
What isnt cool is... having one player around playing like some sort of james bond killing everyone.. strong against everyone, weak against non....
Run away from it? U cant... he is faster than everyone too.... lol
by the way the jedi/sith are rare in the movies and such.... but some dummie decide to expand the lore and write down that in some time in the past.. both jedi and sith numbers could be measured in thousends... I think that is KOTOR crap but whatever.....
reposting the same.. maybe u see what this means....
reposting the same.. maybe u see what this means....
One of the biggest things people want with a sw mmo is freedom. they want to do what they want. Bounty hunter smuggler and so forth. If it was only jedi the game would be boring as hell. imo at least. i know the TOR time period had a lot of jedis but it has other aspects as well.
Jedi's aren't all that god like. They got nearly extinct in the end, because they are just a person of flesh and blood as anyone else.
Jedi's had an extra ordinary gift of able to use the Force and so enhance their combat in either attack (Sith) or defense (Jedi).
Bounty Hunters and Elite soldiers for example didn't posess that gift, but had to rely on their instincts and talents and highly trained themselves to enchance these instincts and their talents.
You see where I'm geting at? Gives you some food for thought!
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Jedi > instinct BH > someone... lol...
whatever the semantics are....
Sith > Jedi > everyone else...
It is just you that want everyone to believe that they are GOD.
Nothing more, nothing less.
The only reason people were against Jedi in SWG, was because of the time setting SWG took place.
Jedi's were almost extinct, only 3 iconic jedi's were left (2 sith and 1 jedi).
So basically in SWG there was no place for Jedi. Altho in first instance in Pre-CU SWG and LA came with a storyline to reintroduce more Jedi's into the game and make the road to Jedi extremely hard.
This was somewhat accepted, as it was really hard to get there in pre-CU.
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This will be the sole reason I won't be playing this MMO.
The already emerging Jedi whine fest that is already starting and how GOD like they need to be.
Bullshit!
Such a game exists already as Star Wars Galaxies and I suggest that you go and play that game because it seems to be what you want.
Please Bioware don't destroy your first MMO by listening to people like Pelu here.
Jedi/Sith as unlockable classes is the only way to go imo.
Hopefully not many little brats will be capable of unlocking them which is as it should be.