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Brad McQuaid hyped lies. Mark Jacobs didn't. There is nothing to comparate.
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Don't get me started. If I were to start on all the lies of MJ here I would probably have been banned in less than a minute. Let me put it this way, I don't like Michael Jacobs for the reason that he has come across as a man of double standards also ready to stretch to is unprofessional means of communicating when he feel that is beneficial. He flames Blizzard for their comments about WAR not really being that ready at launch. Then he flamed FC for not launching a ready product. What the hell, he can not post with such double standards, and in particular when he is a CEO (at least he is supposed to be). It's juvenile and those guys should refrain themselves from Trolling and flameing. Brad McQuaid I say sure as hell
Don't get me started. If I were to start on all the lies of MJ here I would probably have been banned in less than a minute. Let me put it this way, I don't like Michael Jacobs for the reason that he has come across as a man of double standards also ready to stretch to is unprofessional means of communicating when he feel that is beneficial. He flames Blizzard for their comments about WAR not really being that ready at launch. Then he flamed FC for not launching a ready product. What the hell, he can not post with such double standards, and in particular when he is a CEO (at least he is supposed to be). It's juvenile and those guys should refrain themselves from Trolling and flameing. Brad McQuaid I say sure as hell
So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person?
Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
Don't get me started. If I were to start on all the lies of MJ here I would probably have been banned in less than a minute. Let me put it this way, I don't like Michael Jacobs for the reason that he has come across as a man of double standards also ready to stretch to is unprofessional means of communicating when he feel that is beneficial. He flames Blizzard for their comments about WAR not really being that ready at launch. Then he flamed FC for not launching a ready product. What the hell, he can not post with such double standards, and in particular when he is a CEO (at least he is supposed to be). It's juvenile and those guys should refrain themselves from Trolling and flameing. Brad McQuaid I say sure as hell
So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person?
Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
No... you are not getting it. MJ was flaming AoC in a full fledged interview and can not even take one side note from Paul Barnett who thought it was somewhat questionable that Mythic did not raise NDA till the day they launched (as in Mythic seemed to hide something, like i.e a tonn of bugs). If you in the first place want to reduce yourself from a CEO to a forum troll by flaming competitors in the industry you at least have to be ready to take very innocent and correct remarks from others. MJ is a forum bully. That's my point. Double standards!!
Having said that, I had a lot of respect for MJ pre WAR lauch. But his behaviour lately, has been extremely unprofessional and I've lost all respect for the dude.
Ie, going crazy after that comment from Blizzard, which imo was no big deal, screaming "the gloves are now off" and whatever, acting like a spoiled child against ppl on forums, just because they don't bend down and worship him/WAR, etc.
Well, when it comes to mature, professional behaviour, or should I say the lack of, then maybe MJ = Brad after all.
Originally posted by trevornor So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person? Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
No, but WAR rerleased too early with cut out content too. Complaining on other people and do the same misstake yourself isn't really smart. He also said that server merges is a sign of a dying game...
MJ do have said a few dumb things lately, just admit it. Being smug that WAR would be a huge success and AoC would fail totaly isn't really something a big man would do. Most devs really don't complain about what they don't like in another game.
I have nothing against War or Mythic but bad mouthing other devs is just stupid. You don't really see the bosses of Blizzard, NC soft or even Smedley do that.
All im going to say is Mark Jacobs is a horrible..horrible man..
You got this all wrong Wolfenpride... A dont mean to derail the OPs thread about Brad McQuaid
Its..
John Smedley from Star Wars Galaxies and not Mark Jacobs, Mark Jacobs is a Saint compared to this SOB, Brad McQuaid, was a let down, but no one can top ole JS here..
No, not at all, in my opinion. Also, comparing War's release with AoC's release is laughable in my opinion.. I preordered both games, and played both at release. I didn't have 1/10th of the issues with War that I did with AoC. Actually, I was lucky not to have as many hardware problems running AoC that many others did, but I had a flawless experience with War.. Only one CTD during preview weekend, not to mention I enjoyed my time a hell of alot more in War then AoC.. I actually wanted to log in the next day. War is not perfect, but I've enjoyed my time in War a great deal more then my experience with AoC at release.
All im going to say is Mark Jacobs is a horrible..horrible man..
You got this all wrong Wolfenpride... A dont mean to derail the OPs thread about Brad McQuaid
Its..
John Smedley from Star Wars Galaxies and not Mark Jacobs, Mark Jacobs is a Saint compared to this SOB, Brad McQuaid, was a let down, but no one can top ole JS here..
*Nods*.. I remember his interview, right before NGE hit he said he was playing WOW and enjoying it while his developers frantically tried to make SWG a better game.
What I wouldn't give to knock his $%^&ing teeth in and not go to jail for it.
Almost forgot, no Mark is not the new Brad, he actually cares about his game, the people that play it and his staff.
Mark Jacobs is standing up for what he believes in, which I respect. Unfortunately he also comes across as very bombastic, which I think benefits them little or nothing if things go well (except build some ego on their/his end) but will make the crash a lot worse if things go bad.
I hope for his employees' sake that things go well.
Well they're both humans, but other than that there isn't much similary. Best example of how they are different is of course Mark's honesty vs. McQuaid's dishonesty.
Don't get me started. If I were to start on all the lies of MJ here I would probably have been banned in less than a minute. Let me put it this way, I don't like Michael Jacobs for the reason that he has come across as a man of double standards also ready to stretch to is unprofessional means of communicating when he feel that is beneficial. He flames Blizzard for their comments about WAR not really being that ready at launch. Then he flamed FC for not launching a ready product. What the hell, he can not post with such double standards, and in particular when he is a CEO (at least he is supposed to be). It's juvenile and those guys should refrain themselves from Trolling and flameing. Brad McQuaid I say sure as hell
So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person?
Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
No... you are not getting it. MJ was flaming AoC in a full fledged interview and can not even take one side note from Paul Barnett who thought it was somewhat questionable that Mythic did not raise NDA till the day they launched (as in Mythic seemed to hide something, like i.e a tonn of bugs). If you in the first place want to reduce yourself from a CEO to a forum troll by flaming competitors in the industry you at least have to be ready to take very innocent and correct remarks from others. MJ is a forum bully. That's my point. Double standards!!
I always find it extremely ironic when AOC fanboys complain on WAR about lack of content and bugs. Hahahah. So funny.
Mark impresses me as a better manager who delivers what he says. He is involved inthe day to day operation and seems very connected to the game.
Brad on the other hand is a pure vision guy. He is the kinda person that would be focused on his vision and walk right off a cliff. Kinda what he did with vanguard. He promises what is in his vision and just assumes the game willl be so.
Both individuals have their strengths but Mark would be far better running a company where Brad would really need a partner that focuses on managing the business and managing Brad
No, MJ is not the new Brad. Having said that, I had a lot of respect for MJ pre WAR lauch. But his behaviour lately, has been extremely unprofessional and I've lost all respect for the dude. Ie, going crazy after that comment from Blizzard, which imo was no big deal, screaming "the gloves are now off" and whatever, acting like a spoiled child against ppl on forums, just because they don't bend down and worship him/WAR, etc. Well, when it comes to mature, professional behaviour, or should I say the lack of, then maybe MJ = Brad after all.
Honestly, every time I hear MJ write about something, I just picture a 15 year old crying to his mother " its not fair, they are picking on me".
It's funny, he made that comment about taking the 'gloves off' with Blizzard, and since that point Blizzard has announced a new all time high in subscribers, and MJ had to implement server mergers for his game. We really haven't heard anything from MJ since then.. I guess someone would make him explain his comment from this summer about a game being dead if they have to merge servers in the first few months.
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No, MJ is not the new Brad. Having said that, I had a lot of respect for MJ pre WAR lauch. But his behaviour lately, has been extremely unprofessional and I've lost all respect for the dude. Ie, going crazy after that comment from Blizzard, which imo was no big deal, screaming "the gloves are now off" and whatever, acting like a spoiled child against ppl on forums, just because they don't bend down and worship him/WAR, etc. Well, when it comes to mature, professional behaviour, or should I say the lack of, then maybe MJ = Brad after all.
What comment from Blizzard?
Could you provide a hotlink please?
One of the Blizzard devs basically said that it is a bad sign when a game keeps up the NDA on a beta right up until release. MJ took this as a slam against himself ( I still think the Blizzard guy was talking more about AOC though). In Warhammer, only beta people playing from 1-20 were allowed to talk freely about the game, the people playing 21-40 weren't allowed to talk about it until after the official launch.
After the Blizzard comment. MJ posted about 5 long posts on various boards.... all basically saying that the developers of one game should not slam on another game and crying about how people were picking on him. yadda yadda yadda.. and finished with the phrase you keep hearing.. where he basically said he was taking the gloves off against Blizzard.
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You make it sound like there was and or is some real measurable difference between them to begin with.
There isnt.
Brad McQuaid hyped lies. Mark Jacobs didn't. There is nothing to comparate.
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>> EQ1 2000-2004 - Shaman/Bard/Wizard/Monk - nolife raid-whore
>> WoW 2004-2009 + Cataclysm for 2 months - hardcore casual
>> Current status : done with MMO, too old for that crap.
Don't get me started. If I were to start on all the lies of MJ here I would probably have been banned in less than a minute. Let me put it this way, I don't like Michael Jacobs for the reason that he has come across as a man of double standards also ready to stretch to is unprofessional means of communicating when he feel that is beneficial. He flames Blizzard for their comments about WAR not really being that ready at launch. Then he flamed FC for not launching a ready product. What the hell, he can not post with such double standards, and in particular when he is a CEO (at least he is supposed to be). It's juvenile and those guys should refrain themselves from Trolling and flameing. Brad McQuaid I say sure as hell
So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person?
Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person?
Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
No... you are not getting it. MJ was flaming AoC in a full fledged interview and can not even take one side note from Paul Barnett who thought it was somewhat questionable that Mythic did not raise NDA till the day they launched (as in Mythic seemed to hide something, like i.e a tonn of bugs). If you in the first place want to reduce yourself from a CEO to a forum troll by flaming competitors in the industry you at least have to be ready to take very innocent and correct remarks from others. MJ is a forum bully. That's my point. Double standards!!
No
So far no has the majority of votes.
All im going to say is Mark Jacobs is a horrible..horrible man..
No, MJ is not the new Brad.
Having said that, I had a lot of respect for MJ pre WAR lauch. But his behaviour lately, has been extremely unprofessional and I've lost all respect for the dude.
Ie, going crazy after that comment from Blizzard, which imo was no big deal, screaming "the gloves are now off" and whatever, acting like a spoiled child against ppl on forums, just because they don't bend down and worship him/WAR, etc.
Well, when it comes to mature, professional behaviour, or should I say the lack of, then maybe MJ = Brad after all.
No, but WAR rerleased too early with cut out content too. Complaining on other people and do the same misstake yourself isn't really smart. He also said that server merges is a sign of a dying game...
MJ do have said a few dumb things lately, just admit it. Being smug that WAR would be a huge success and AoC would fail totaly isn't really something a big man would do. Most devs really don't complain about what they don't like in another game.
I have nothing against War or Mythic but bad mouthing other devs is just stupid. You don't really see the bosses of Blizzard, NC soft or even Smedley do that.
You got this all wrong Wolfenpride... A dont mean to derail the OPs thread about Brad McQuaid
Its..
John Smedley from Star Wars Galaxies and not Mark Jacobs, Mark Jacobs is a Saint compared to this SOB, Brad McQuaid, was a let down, but no one can top ole JS here..
No, not at all, in my opinion. Also, comparing War's release with AoC's release is laughable in my opinion.. I preordered both games, and played both at release. I didn't have 1/10th of the issues with War that I did with AoC. Actually, I was lucky not to have as many hardware problems running AoC that many others did, but I had a flawless experience with War.. Only one CTD during preview weekend, not to mention I enjoyed my time a hell of alot more in War then AoC.. I actually wanted to log in the next day. War is not perfect, but I've enjoyed my time in War a great deal more then my experience with AoC at release.
You got this all wrong Wolfenpride... A dont mean to derail the OPs thread about Brad McQuaid
Its..
John Smedley from Star Wars Galaxies and not Mark Jacobs, Mark Jacobs is a Saint compared to this SOB, Brad McQuaid, was a let down, but no one can top ole JS here..
*Nods*.. I remember his interview, right before NGE hit he said he was playing WOW and enjoying it while his developers frantically tried to make SWG a better game.
What I wouldn't give to knock his $%^&ing teeth in and not go to jail for it.
Almost forgot, no Mark is not the new Brad, he actually cares about his game, the people that play it and his staff.
"What I wouldn't give to knock his $%^&ing teeth in and not go to jail for it."
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Mark Jacobs is standing up for what he believes in, which I respect. Unfortunately he also comes across as very bombastic, which I think benefits them little or nothing if things go well (except build some ego on their/his end) but will make the crash a lot worse if things go bad.
I hope for his employees' sake that things go well.
Well they're both humans, but other than that there isn't much similary. Best example of how they are different is of course Mark's honesty vs. McQuaid's dishonesty.
If there was another McQuaid, it will be Garriott. Though MJ is still a fricken jackass though.
So a person, who is critical of another game is a bad person?
Pot, meet kettle. Might want to look in the mirror.
No... you are not getting it. MJ was flaming AoC in a full fledged interview and can not even take one side note from Paul Barnett who thought it was somewhat questionable that Mythic did not raise NDA till the day they launched (as in Mythic seemed to hide something, like i.e a tonn of bugs). If you in the first place want to reduce yourself from a CEO to a forum troll by flaming competitors in the industry you at least have to be ready to take very innocent and correct remarks from others. MJ is a forum bully. That's my point. Double standards!!
I always find it extremely ironic when AOC fanboys complain on WAR about lack of content and bugs. Hahahah. So funny.
Mark impresses me as a better manager who delivers what he says. He is involved inthe day to day operation and seems very connected to the game.
Brad on the other hand is a pure vision guy. He is the kinda person that would be focused on his vision and walk right off a cliff. Kinda what he did with vanguard. He promises what is in his vision and just assumes the game willl be so.
Both individuals have their strengths but Mark would be far better running a company where Brad would really need a partner that focuses on managing the business and managing Brad
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What comment from Blizzard?
Could you provide a hotlink please?
Honestly, every time I hear MJ write about something, I just picture a 15 year old crying to his mother " its not fair, they are picking on me".
It's funny, he made that comment about taking the 'gloves off' with Blizzard, and since that point Blizzard has announced a new all time high in subscribers, and MJ had to implement server mergers for his game. We really haven't heard anything from MJ since then.. I guess someone would make him explain his comment from this summer about a game being dead if they have to merge servers in the first few months.
No, not even close.
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What comment from Blizzard?
Could you provide a hotlink please?
One of the Blizzard devs basically said that it is a bad sign when a game keeps up the NDA on a beta right up until release. MJ took this as a slam against himself ( I still think the Blizzard guy was talking more about AOC though). In Warhammer, only beta people playing from 1-20 were allowed to talk freely about the game, the people playing 21-40 weren't allowed to talk about it until after the official launch.
After the Blizzard comment. MJ posted about 5 long posts on various boards.... all basically saying that the developers of one game should not slam on another game and crying about how people were picking on him. yadda yadda yadda.. and finished with the phrase you keep hearing.. where he basically said he was taking the gloves off against Blizzard.