...now the excuse is there's no percentages so it should fail? seriously come on any excuse to whine...geezus its just damn Test Patch Notes.
Who said it is going to fail? Without details people tend to let their imaginations fill in the blanks and it is basic human nature to lean towards extremes. Just like you are doing now.
QQ's been around for quite some time As for the nerf to healers.. I think WP's need a lil selfheal nerf as well.. a witch elf from full stealth couldnt bust through his healing this one time, equal leveled.. that seems wrong
Until you realize WE are not supposed to be taking down WP... WE = Clothy killer. Not everyone killer.
When the patch goes live, and if they do not change the idiotic HoT nerf that they just implemented, Its time to put this game on the shelf next to AoC. Its amazing how these Devs view this game, nerf the already weak healing classes, but increase the damage on the other classes, while BW hit for well over 1000k,( and thats being nice), The healers only heal for not even half of that. I will wait till the patch goes live to see if they do anything 'nice' to the overall healing classes, if not...time to move on...enough said.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
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When the patch goes live, and if they do not change the idiotic HoT nerf that they just implemented, Its time to put this game on the shelf next to AoC. Its amazing how these Devs view this game, nerf the already weak healing classes, but increase the damage on the other classes, while BW hit for well over 1000k,( and thats being nice), The healers only heal for not even half of that. I will wait till the patch goes live to see if they do anything 'nice' to the overall healing classes, if not...time to move on...enough said.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
That last sentence speaks volumes. Exactly how I feel.
When the patch goes live, and if they do not change the idiotic HoT nerf that they just implemented, Its time to put this game on the shelf next to AoC. Its amazing how these Devs view this game, nerf the already weak healing classes, but increase the damage on the other classes, while BW hit for well over 1000k,( and thats being nice), The healers only heal for not even half of that. I will wait till the patch goes live to see if they do anything 'nice' to the overall healing classes, if not...time to move on...enough said.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
That last sentence speaks volumes. Exactly how I feel.
Well, it's going to the test server for.. um.. testing before its released to the live servers. Also, dok/wp are getting a boost to their damage/heal abilities from 250% damage healed, to 350% healed. Also all the large heal spells are dropped from 3 sec to 2.5sec. Another point is, any r40 healer could absolutely destroy a r40 bw/sorc 1vs1. People bitch about BWs because there are too many of them, and 3 BW's focus firing on one destruction player, equals a crispy destro in a few seconds. Bws/sorc are pretty usless without full combustion/darkmagic and a healer to back them up. Mark Jacobs has also said they are lowering the crit damage/or chance that the casters will do.. They've been tweaking the patch before it's even been released on the test server, I'm pretty confident they will tweak it more, where it's needed, after it hits the test server, but before it goes live.
Check the ign warammer boards, the new tweaks have been posted by mj on a thread there.
When the patch goes live, and if they do not change the idiotic HoT nerf that they just implemented, Its time to put this game on the shelf next to AoC. Its amazing how these Devs view this game, nerf the already weak healing classes, but increase the damage on the other classes, while BW hit for well over 1000k,( and thats being nice), The healers only heal for not even half of that. I will wait till the patch goes live to see if they do anything 'nice' to the overall healing classes, if not...time to move on...enough said.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
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With the healing changes, will be intersting to see if any tweaking needs to be done to healing debuffs down the road. While debuffs are percentage based, having greater total healing means after a debuff and a heal the person will still have more hitpoints, making them harder to kill meaning the debuff is less effective than it is now.
poor of my zealot, I am in tier 4 now and always notice that shamans ALWAYS outheal way too high in scenarios, usually by triple! And my zealot is 4ranks higher than the shamans I know. So go figure. Even with good gear my zealot is not performing as good as others healing classes.
I guess I will try the new classes and go tank, you cant go wrong with a lot of health points
When balancing and the nerf bat start, you know its time to move to another game. Sad but true.
I thought I heard everything from hate trolls but this must top them all...
Please tell me ONE example of a mmo that isn't being balanced constantly.. Just ONE. It is a perfectly normal thing and not only with mmos these days. What are you talking about?
And the "nerf bat" is completely ridiculous. 95% percent of class changes are buffs - even the damn BWs got slight buffs to their DoTs... There is only a slight reduction to HoTs all over the board and some CC abuses at higher levels have been addressed. FFS direct heals have even been BUFFED by decreasing cast times. Ironbreakers have had their grudge accumulation slowed down but with radical decreases to low end grudge skill costs. And that's it - hardly a "nerf bat" by any account.
This statement of yours is pure an utter nonsense. This desperation to find ANYTHING to rationalize your pathological hatred of the game is getting really sad. Will you and your lot PLEASE stop trolling these boards? Pretty please?
I really implore WAR non-players interested in the game to stop looking at this board for any kind of relevant information or opinion on it. The above post is just one of the myriad examples of pointless trolling and blatant misinformation and black propaganda that goes on around here. Enough damage has been done already.
Has anyone beside me ended up in a scenario with 6 to 12+ healers, nearly a unstoppable force even if your a dps machine. The team with the most healers win.
It's a balancing process. Things will go up and down like a roller coaster; one day you're overpowered and can healbot a whole team alone and the next day you're unable to keep one tank alive. In the beginning these ups and downs are bigger and they slowly get smaller and smaller. Balancing a game is not an easy task and I'd say give the balancers some time. Apart from that I think you want the a big campfest where the healers keep the whole team alive and scoring kills is uncommon whereas Mythic seems to be going more towards a zergest where the healers provide a longer life, rather then a death "immunity".
I have noticed a big difference in the players who do use Curse Mods and those who don't. Heal numbers in scenarios are simply unparalled. I fyou are not using a Curse Mod, you should.
That being said. I was a WP and came upon two Black Orcs 4 levels lower than me. They obviously guarded each other and I could not scratch one of their health bars. Do not speak about being me overpowered
Hey, global warming (snicker) is gonna destroy the planet in about 100 years. Go get hysterical about that too. Same thing.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
When balancing and the nerf bat start, you know its time to move to another game. Sad but true.
I thought I heard everything from hate trolls but this must top them all...
Please tell me ONE example of a mmo that isn't being balanced constantly.. Just ONE. It is a perfectly normal thing and not only with mmos these days. What are you talking about?
And the "nerf bat" is completely ridiculous. 95% percent of class changes are buffs - even the damn BWs got slight buffs to their DoTs... There is only a slight reduction to HoTs all over the board and some CC abuses at higher levels have been addressed. FFS direct heals have even been BUFFED by decreasing cast times. Ironbreakers have had their grudge accumulation slowed down but with radical decreases to low end grudge skill costs. And that's it - hardly a "nerf bat" by any account.
This statement of yours is pure an utter nonsense. This desperation to find ANYTHING to rationalize your pathological hatred of the game is getting really sad. Will you and your lot PLEASE stop trolling these boards? Pretty please?
I really implore WAR non-players interested in the game to stop looking at this board for any kind of relevant information or opinion on it. The above post is just one of the myriad examples of pointless trolling and blatant misinformation and black propaganda that goes on around here. Enough damage has been done already.
Funny, I read that single line as sarcasm and not worthy of hysterical rantings and name calling. I guess it just depends on the readers expectations of what is being read.
When the patch goes live, and if they do not change the idiotic HoT nerf that they just implemented, Its time to put this game on the shelf next to AoC. Its amazing how these Devs view this game, nerf the already weak healing classes, but increase the damage on the other classes, while BW hit for well over 1000k,( and thats being nice), The healers only heal for not even half of that. I will wait till the patch goes live to see if they do anything 'nice' to the overall healing classes, if not...time to move on...enough said.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
This is pretty much how I feel. I canceled my account due to the OP healing in this game. From what I read on the patch notes they did not even go far enough.
When balancing and the nerf bat start, you know its time to move to another game. Sad but true.
I thought I heard everything from hate trolls but this must top them all...
Please tell me ONE example of a mmo that isn't being balanced constantly.. Just ONE. It is a perfectly normal thing and not only with mmos these days. What are you talking about?
And the "nerf bat" is completely ridiculous. 95% percent of class changes are buffs - even the damn BWs got slight buffs to their DoTs... There is only a slight reduction to HoTs all over the board and some CC abuses at higher levels have been addressed. FFS direct heals have even been BUFFED by decreasing cast times. Ironbreakers have had their grudge accumulation slowed down but with radical decreases to low end grudge skill costs. And that's it - hardly a "nerf bat" by any account.
This statement of yours is pure an utter nonsense. This desperation to find ANYTHING to rationalize your pathological hatred of the game is getting really sad. Will you and your lot PLEASE stop trolling these boards? Pretty please?
I really implore WAR non-players interested in the game to stop looking at this board for any kind of relevant information or opinion on it. The above post is just one of the myriad examples of pointless trolling and blatant misinformation and black propaganda that goes on around here. Enough damage has been done already.
Funny, I read that single line as sarcasm and not worthy of hysterical rantings and name calling. I guess it just depends on the readers expectations of what is being read.
Is it?
Here's two more quotes from the selfsame author...
Instead of wasting time on 'tuning' the renown won or not [ wich must be a really simple task of just changing a couple of variable ] and coding small timeframe events that dont even apply to most countries [ wicth night and that stuff is mainly a US tradition ] they should be spending their time fixing bugs and stuff the comunity been asking for to hold the players in the game.
noeone i know subscribed the game past the initial pre order and free month period..
Patching crap like witching Night eetc aint gonna help to promote a game when you have on the market recently released games like Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3.
People gonna play somehting else till the new classes out in december i guess.
As trolls go, this one is more civil and eloquent than most, I concur... However, implying that WAR devs do not pay attention to bug fixes (lol, it's got DAILY hot fixes, never seen a mmo with that agile QA team) and comparing it with single-players as if it were somehow competing with them place him clearly into the troll category.
It is quite telling that you thought his post sarcastic. It is not. He really means it.
As for hysterics, I reserve the right to be aggressive because the only way to deal with trolls is to stomp them. I've tried to be civil before and it simply does not work - a troll is an unreasonable creature and you can't reason with it, almost by definition. They count on wearing you out by constant repetition of whatever they're peddling - once you give up fighting it is their version of "truth" that becomes a given, no matter how erroneous it is.
A good example is the idea I've seen new posters get when asking, in full honesty and naivete, what is the state of the game? They invariably get the impression that WAR had a horrible launch, comparable to AoC and Vanguard - and all due to a handfull of eternal trolls. The whole idea is completely preposterous considering that it is widely acknowledged by both the industry and players in general that not only that WAR's launch wasn't a bad one but actually amazingly smooth and maybe even the smoothest yet of any mmo. We can talk about lots of stuff that are iffy with the game but calling WAR's launch anything but stellar is utterly ridiculous. Whatever the amount of bugs it has (yes it does have some, but much less what is the norm for a new mmo) there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for calling it a "buggy mess" I've seen casually thrown around here. No mercy to trolls - they show none and none should be given to them.
When the patch goes live, and if they do not change the idiotic HoT nerf that they just implemented, Its time to put this game on the shelf next to AoC. Its amazing how these Devs view this game, nerf the already weak healing classes, but increase the damage on the other classes, while BW hit for well over 1000k,( and thats being nice), The healers only heal for not even half of that. I will wait till the patch goes live to see if they do anything 'nice' to the overall healing classes, if not...time to move on...enough said.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
WAR is a teamwork game who is said to be following a rock>scissor>paper formulae. Problem is on 1on1, healer can beat any class, they outheal any dmg done to them and can dot the opponent, slowly killing him.
On the other hand you have WItch elves completely raping Ironbreakers, when they should be weak against tanks.
Overall this game needs huge balance fixing, and the fact that beta was hastily shortened completely shows. Now the developpers will need to nerf several classes, angering the playerbase, and showing the lack of polish of their game.
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I meet a zealot 1on1 with my warrior priest. We just could not kill eachother. We finally just stopped, waved and went our seperate ways. That experience kinda killed WAR for me.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
WAR is a teamwork game who is said to be following a rock>scissor>paper formulae. Problem is on 1on1, healer can beat any class, they outheal any dmg done to them and can dot the opponent, slowly killing him.
On the other hand you have WItch elves completely raping Ironbreakers, when they should be weak against tanks.
Overall this game needs huge balance fixing, and the fact that beta was hastily shortened completely shows. Now the developpers will need to nerf several classes, angering the playerbase, and showing the lack of polish of their game.
Yes, in theory they cam beat most classes if the other guy is afk... Comon, how long is it going to take? Besides healer have no means to slow down the opponents, so the guy can just run away and the healer cannot do anything about that.
This is about archetype, a healer should have excellent survivability, period. Otherwise what is the point? Playing a healer can be a chore sometimes, if you don't give them something, nobody will play them.
It just seems to me that they want to go more fast-paced route with everyone doing damage, as hybrids. I just think that won't be much fun for me as I absolutely hate GW.
When balancing and the nerf bat start, you know its time to move to another game. Sad but true.
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Funny, I read that single line as sarcasm and not worthy of hysterical rantings and name calling. I guess it just depends on the readers expectations of what is being read.
Yup i think i got a fan there. Funny girl tbh, young ladies can get so emotive...
Anyway the nerf bat can appear in several flavours. Boosting almost everyone is a delicate and elegant tactic of summoning the little critter without making many waves, wich seems to be the case in this patch.
One rather interesting and pleasant surprise i got when i started playing WAR was the fact that the game looked to be "comunity whining nerf bat callers" bullet proof. And so it was for a while.. seems they lost that too.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
WAR is a teamwork game who is said to be following a rock>scissor>paper formulae. Problem is on 1on1, healer can beat any class, they outheal any dmg done to them and can dot the opponent, slowly killing him.
On the other hand you have WItch elves completely raping Ironbreakers, when they should be weak against tanks.
Overall this game needs huge balance fixing, and the fact that beta was hastily shortened completely shows. Now the developpers will need to nerf several classes, angering the playerbase, and showing the lack of polish of their game.
Judging from you just stated, I'm not sure that you've played the game at all. Unless, of course, your post was meant as a joke. You must have meant healers can't beat any class.
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Who said it is going to fail? Without details people tend to let their imaginations fill in the blanks and it is basic human nature to lean towards extremes. Just like you are doing now.
Until you realize WE are not supposed to be taking down WP... WE = Clothy killer. Not everyone killer.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
That last sentence speaks volumes. Exactly how I feel.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
That last sentence speaks volumes. Exactly how I feel.
Then try T4.
Well, it's going to the test server for.. um.. testing before its released to the live servers. Also, dok/wp are getting a boost to their damage/heal abilities from 250% damage healed, to 350% healed. Also all the large heal spells are dropped from 3 sec to 2.5sec. Another point is, any r40 healer could absolutely destroy a r40 bw/sorc 1vs1. People bitch about BWs because there are too many of them, and 3 BW's focus firing on one destruction player, equals a crispy destro in a few seconds. Bws/sorc are pretty usless without full combustion/darkmagic and a healer to back them up. Mark Jacobs has also said they are lowering the crit damage/or chance that the casters will do.. They've been tweaking the patch before it's even been released on the test server, I'm pretty confident they will tweak it more, where it's needed, after it hits the test server, but before it goes live.
Check the ign warammer boards, the new tweaks have been posted by mj on a thread there.
yep
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
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>> EQ1 2000-2004 - Shaman/Bard/Wizard/Monk - nolife raid-whore
>> WoW 2004-2009 + Cataclysm for 2 months - hardcore casual
>> Current status : done with MMO, too old for that crap.
When balancing and the nerf bat start, you know its time to move to another game.
Sad but true.
With the healing changes, will be intersting to see if any tweaking needs to be done to healing debuffs down the road. While debuffs are percentage based, having greater total healing means after a debuff and a heal the person will still have more hitpoints, making them harder to kill meaning the debuff is less effective than it is now.
poor of my zealot, I am in tier 4 now and always notice that shamans ALWAYS outheal way too high in scenarios, usually by triple! And my zealot is 4ranks higher than the shamans I know. So go figure. Even with good gear my zealot is not performing as good as others healing classes.
I guess I will try the new classes and go tank, you cant go wrong with a lot of health points
I thought I heard everything from hate trolls but this must top them all...
Please tell me ONE example of a mmo that isn't being balanced constantly.. Just ONE. It is a perfectly normal thing and not only with mmos these days. What are you talking about?
And the "nerf bat" is completely ridiculous. 95% percent of class changes are buffs - even the damn BWs got slight buffs to their DoTs... There is only a slight reduction to HoTs all over the board and some CC abuses at higher levels have been addressed. FFS direct heals have even been BUFFED by decreasing cast times. Ironbreakers have had their grudge accumulation slowed down but with radical decreases to low end grudge skill costs. And that's it - hardly a "nerf bat" by any account.
This statement of yours is pure an utter nonsense. This desperation to find ANYTHING to rationalize your pathological hatred of the game is getting really sad. Will you and your lot PLEASE stop trolling these boards? Pretty please?
I really implore WAR non-players interested in the game to stop looking at this board for any kind of relevant information or opinion on it. The above post is just one of the myriad examples of pointless trolling and blatant misinformation and black propaganda that goes on around here. Enough damage has been done already.
Has anyone beside me ended up in a scenario with 6 to 12+ healers, nearly a unstoppable force even if your a dps machine. The team with the most healers win.
Currently Playing: AO and FE.
It's a balancing process. Things will go up and down like a roller coaster; one day you're overpowered and can healbot a whole team alone and the next day you're unable to keep one tank alive. In the beginning these ups and downs are bigger and they slowly get smaller and smaller. Balancing a game is not an easy task and I'd say give the balancers some time. Apart from that I think you want the a big campfest where the healers keep the whole team alive and scoring kills is uncommon whereas Mythic seems to be going more towards a zergest where the healers provide a longer life, rather then a death "immunity".
I have noticed a big difference in the players who do use Curse Mods and those who don't. Heal numbers in scenarios are simply unparalled. I fyou are not using a Curse Mod, you should.
That being said. I was a WP and came upon two Black Orcs 4 levels lower than me. They obviously guarded each other and I could not scratch one of their health bars. Do not speak about being me overpowered
Hey, global warming (snicker) is gonna destroy the planet in about 100 years. Go get hysterical about that too. Same thing.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I thought I heard everything from hate trolls but this must top them all...
Please tell me ONE example of a mmo that isn't being balanced constantly.. Just ONE. It is a perfectly normal thing and not only with mmos these days. What are you talking about?
And the "nerf bat" is completely ridiculous. 95% percent of class changes are buffs - even the damn BWs got slight buffs to their DoTs... There is only a slight reduction to HoTs all over the board and some CC abuses at higher levels have been addressed. FFS direct heals have even been BUFFED by decreasing cast times. Ironbreakers have had their grudge accumulation slowed down but with radical decreases to low end grudge skill costs. And that's it - hardly a "nerf bat" by any account.
This statement of yours is pure an utter nonsense. This desperation to find ANYTHING to rationalize your pathological hatred of the game is getting really sad. Will you and your lot PLEASE stop trolling these boards? Pretty please?
I really implore WAR non-players interested in the game to stop looking at this board for any kind of relevant information or opinion on it. The above post is just one of the myriad examples of pointless trolling and blatant misinformation and black propaganda that goes on around here. Enough damage has been done already.
Funny, I read that single line as sarcasm and not worthy of hysterical rantings and name calling. I guess it just depends on the readers expectations of what is being read.
Are you serious? Healers were the only class that could kill any other class in the game. They are the only class that didn't have to follow the paper>rock>scissors mold. I think healers were OPed and I am glad to hear they were brought down to mere mortal levels. Now healers will be just another part of the team, instead of pivotal to winning.
This is pretty much how I feel. I canceled my account due to the OP healing in this game. From what I read on the patch notes they did not even go far enough.
I thought I heard everything from hate trolls but this must top them all...
Please tell me ONE example of a mmo that isn't being balanced constantly.. Just ONE. It is a perfectly normal thing and not only with mmos these days. What are you talking about?
And the "nerf bat" is completely ridiculous. 95% percent of class changes are buffs - even the damn BWs got slight buffs to their DoTs... There is only a slight reduction to HoTs all over the board and some CC abuses at higher levels have been addressed. FFS direct heals have even been BUFFED by decreasing cast times. Ironbreakers have had their grudge accumulation slowed down but with radical decreases to low end grudge skill costs. And that's it - hardly a "nerf bat" by any account.
This statement of yours is pure an utter nonsense. This desperation to find ANYTHING to rationalize your pathological hatred of the game is getting really sad. Will you and your lot PLEASE stop trolling these boards? Pretty please?
I really implore WAR non-players interested in the game to stop looking at this board for any kind of relevant information or opinion on it. The above post is just one of the myriad examples of pointless trolling and blatant misinformation and black propaganda that goes on around here. Enough damage has been done already.
Funny, I read that single line as sarcasm and not worthy of hysterical rantings and name calling. I guess it just depends on the readers expectations of what is being read.
Is it?
Here's two more quotes from the selfsame author...
Instead of wasting time on 'tuning' the renown won or not [ wich must be a really simple task of just changing a couple of variable ] and coding small timeframe events that dont even apply to most countries [ wicth night and that stuff is mainly a US tradition ] they should be spending their time fixing bugs and stuff the comunity been asking for to hold the players in the game.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2420093#2420093
noeone i know subscribed the game past the initial pre order and free month period..
Patching crap like witching Night eetc aint gonna help to promote a game when you have on the market recently released games like Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3.
People gonna play somehting else till the new classes out in december i guess.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2420093#2420093
As trolls go, this one is more civil and eloquent than most, I concur... However, implying that WAR devs do not pay attention to bug fixes (lol, it's got DAILY hot fixes, never seen a mmo with that agile QA team) and comparing it with single-players as if it were somehow competing with them place him clearly into the troll category.
It is quite telling that you thought his post sarcastic. It is not. He really means it.
As for hysterics, I reserve the right to be aggressive because the only way to deal with trolls is to stomp them. I've tried to be civil before and it simply does not work - a troll is an unreasonable creature and you can't reason with it, almost by definition. They count on wearing you out by constant repetition of whatever they're peddling - once you give up fighting it is their version of "truth" that becomes a given, no matter how erroneous it is.
A good example is the idea I've seen new posters get when asking, in full honesty and naivete, what is the state of the game? They invariably get the impression that WAR had a horrible launch, comparable to AoC and Vanguard - and all due to a handfull of eternal trolls. The whole idea is completely preposterous considering that it is widely acknowledged by both the industry and players in general that not only that WAR's launch wasn't a bad one but actually amazingly smooth and maybe even the smoothest yet of any mmo. We can talk about lots of stuff that are iffy with the game but calling WAR's launch anything but stellar is utterly ridiculous. Whatever the amount of bugs it has (yes it does have some, but much less what is the norm for a new mmo) there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for calling it a "buggy mess" I've seen casually thrown around here. No mercy to trolls - they show none and none should be given to them.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
WAR is a teamwork game who is said to be following a rock>scissor>paper formulae. Problem is on 1on1, healer can beat any class, they outheal any dmg done to them and can dot the opponent, slowly killing him.
On the other hand you have WItch elves completely raping Ironbreakers, when they should be weak against tanks.
Overall this game needs huge balance fixing, and the fact that beta was hastily shortened completely shows. Now the developpers will need to nerf several classes, angering the playerbase, and showing the lack of polish of their game.
My addiction History:
>> EQ1 2000-2004 - Shaman/Bard/Wizard/Monk - nolife raid-whore
>> WoW 2004-2009 + Cataclysm for 2 months - hardcore casual
>> Current status : done with MMO, too old for that crap.
I meet a zealot 1on1 with my warrior priest. We just could not kill eachother. We finally just stopped, waved and went our seperate ways. That experience kinda killed WAR for me.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
WAR is a teamwork game who is said to be following a rock>scissor>paper formulae. Problem is on 1on1, healer can beat any class, they outheal any dmg done to them and can dot the opponent, slowly killing him.
On the other hand you have WItch elves completely raping Ironbreakers, when they should be weak against tanks.
Overall this game needs huge balance fixing, and the fact that beta was hastily shortened completely shows. Now the developpers will need to nerf several classes, angering the playerbase, and showing the lack of polish of their game.
This is about archetype, a healer should have excellent survivability, period. Otherwise what is the point? Playing a healer can be a chore sometimes, if you don't give them something, nobody will play them.
It just seems to me that they want to go more fast-paced route with everyone doing damage, as hybrids. I just think that won't be much fun for me as I absolutely hate GW.
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Funny, I read that single line as sarcasm and not worthy of hysterical rantings and name calling. I guess it just depends on the readers expectations of what is being read.
Yup i think i got a fan there. Funny girl tbh, young ladies can get so emotive...
Anyway the nerf bat can appear in several flavours. Boosting almost everyone is a delicate and elegant tactic of summoning the little critter without making many waves, wich seems to be the case in this patch.
One rather interesting and pleasant surprise i got when i started playing WAR was the fact that the game looked to be "comunity whining nerf bat callers" bullet proof. And so it was for a while.. seems they lost that too.
Very good change. A Healer shouldnt be able to "tank" a melee or ranged dps classes by permanently applying HoT on himself. If an undefended healer is caught by another class, he should die, plain and simple.
I completely disagree! If a healer isn't able to stay alive facing another (most) class then what can they do? They certainly cannot kill anyone as their DPS is ridiculous so really what can they do? Play whack-a-mole?
I have also canceled my account. not because of this change alone, but increasing the DPS across the board is the opposite of what I think this game should be heading; fights are already too fast-paced to my liking. If I wanted to play guild wars, I would.
WAR is a teamwork game who is said to be following a rock>scissor>paper formulae. Problem is on 1on1, healer can beat any class, they outheal any dmg done to them and can dot the opponent, slowly killing him.
On the other hand you have WItch elves completely raping Ironbreakers, when they should be weak against tanks.
Overall this game needs huge balance fixing, and the fact that beta was hastily shortened completely shows. Now the developpers will need to nerf several classes, angering the playerbase, and showing the lack of polish of their game.
Judging from you just stated, I'm not sure that you've played the game at all. Unless, of course, your post was meant as a joke. You must have meant healers can't beat any class.