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Kaynos1972
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You don't get AI. So basicly you don't save 29.99 cause after the 14 days trial, if you like the game you will have to pay 30$ to buy AI.
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A matter of definition I guess. I'll notify our marketing people of it possibly being confusing though.
Thomas "Cz" Johnsen
Community Manager
Funcom
Thomas "Cz" Johnsen
Community Manager
Funcom
that offer was before AI even came out... Thats why it doesn't include AI.
Maxxatron - Anarchy Online
Really Cz, while you talk to them, PR peopel or whatever, please inform them that the current system is kinda bad, it is confusing and weird.
And I am not alking the free thingy here.
Either do AI an expansion only, meaning you need AO, NW and SL optional. Or add everything in the latest pack.
See if people buy a playable version of something, with the latest Expansion they more or less expect, or demand, that all previous versions are included. Fooling people into AI and they pretty soon realise they need SL to, (really, no matter what you say, you NEED sl to deal with the heavy stuff AI trows at ya). They are gonna feel robbed.
While I applaud the decision of giving AO basic away, (not that I think that gonna earn ya any new customeres really), this is NOT the way to release stuff unless your sole intention is to grab all the cash ya can and run. A truelly horrible and confusing system, and if peopel can not understand even the subscription types then there aint any chance they gonna try to understand the game.
And honestly, if AI was only meant to be aimed at allready orged and long time players then why DID you trow in original AO to, but not SL? Why not make it a booster like you did NW? The obvious answer to that is not a nice one.
Wether or not AI is good or not I do not care, but FC do come across pretty bad because of this.
My sincere advice is that you remove SL from yer sales and make it a "full version AO" for say 20 or 30$, and keep the free thingy AO only, or maybe AO and NW. If you are really looking for new players why show of only the oldest, (allthough to me the only good) version. Dont you understand that if people are going to try AO now they gonna DL the full version and never see the later stuff you made, simply because it is FREE. If they wanna try AI or SL they gonna need to make a new trial account and forego whatver they did during them 2 weeks, cause you cant add AI/SL trial to that free account can ya? Very unlikely people will do that.
Not sreaming at you Cz, not that you are ever gonna read this even. But FC to me seems like a lot of peopel competing in who can make the worst decision, and will stop at nothing to win that contest.
At one time I honestly believed AO to be some weird social experiment of some mad rich Norwegian oil baron that was trying to see how far people could be pushed and how much crap they would take, and that aint a joke. I am not even yet convinced I was wrong.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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Science has never proven that what we see in front of us is in fact real.
dude, just because you assumed wrong doesn't mean you need to down the game..
all mmorpg company's do this.. giving you the full version of a game meaning their basic game.. other expansions are always extra.
Take Everquest for instance.. for a while the full version of the game was just that.. the original everquest.. after about 4 expansions the basic full version then included the first 2 expansions. which they sold as the Everquest Trilogy thus... if AO full version was all the expansions too.. they'd probably call it Anarchy Online Trilogy Edition
And don't complain.. You played it for 14 days free and should've enjoyed it.. if you didn't then no need to complain about the fact that it wasn't all the expainsions.
Anarchy Online is still to this day my #1 favorite mmorpg and always will be.
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Science has never proven that what we see in front of us is in fact real.
Thanks for the feedback, Umbrood (look, I read it! Dewd, do I roxxor your expectations or what?
). I'll forward it to the marketing guys. You can also send feedback to them yourself at marketing@funcom.com, btw.
As for the Norwegian oil baron theory... I'll just admit I'm busted. How did you find me out?
Thomas "Cz" Johnsen
Community Manager
Funcom
Thomas "Cz" Johnsen
Community Manager
Funcom
Oh, you want to hear Funcom fun? I got into AI beta, and added it to my old original account, that had all personal info already, but was closed? Well, when I started the AI beta, they pulled a month payment from my account and started it up again, making me pay to betatest.
I have always come back to AO in times when I have nothing to play. Needless to say, this made me close down my beta account directly, together with wiping all my personal info, never to come back to there ever again.
Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
Go Mythic!
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Harafnir, if your account was opened by somebody but yourself, please contact account@anarchy-online.com and maybe they can help you with that. I'd check it personally, but I don't have your account information.
Thomas "Cz" Johnsen
Community Manager
Funcom
Thomas "Cz" Johnsen
Community Manager
Funcom
Yes Cz, you r0xx0red my expectations, not the first time either, without sounding to much like a brownnoose you are probably the bulk of the intellectual capital that company has. (please send my AI key to umbrood@mmorpg.com
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Now do not get me wrong people, I like AO, a lot, what I do no like are the suits that run FC. AO is probably one of the best mmo's out there, even with the really bad decisions, (or what I think are bad), what annoys me and many other AO veterans is the fact that so much energy was diverted into things that turned out so wrong. All we who loved AO, and we were quite a lot at one time, see things like SL as a waste of time and effort, that could havebeen MUCH better used to develop the original AO storyline and game. AI is a step in the right direction, but yet again maybe not to its full potential. If you read the timeline/storyline and watched the animated movies that they once produced there is a LOT of story and good ideas, not to mention a very good immersion factor. And again I am not saying SL is a bad storyline or idea, it just differs so much from AO I really do not think the two should be together. AI again introduces outside influences, aliens this time instead of demons and spirits and gods or whatnot.
I wanted and WANT more of AO, the beutiful planet of rubi-ka wich hardly has a tree I do not know on a first name basis. I want more Omni VS clan stuff, I want new playfields and new dungeons on RK, I want more sci-fi and i want it in the original setting. I want missions back as an option at all levels, missions were AO's finest achievment and allthough most people got sick of it it made the game qiuck and social and available to even the most casual gamer. It is amazing they just dropped that so easily, like M$ suddenly decided to stop developing Windows. These are bad decisions on a "appple-scale", for thoose who understand that analogy.
What bugs me is that I can see the game AO could have been, and even though it never came to be or never will, I miss it dearly.
Honestly can you imagine what this game would have been of all that SL effort had been put into developing the original storyline?
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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AO was great before Shadowlands. I played that game for well over a year. I leveled a toon to 200, another one to 170. Then came SL, oh my.... OH MY ....
From that great game FC introduce things that made me quit. Shadowlands was nothing but : Running, Pharming, Camping, PERIOD. Add to that they made all the mobs almost un-soloable, made all the useful Nano Program useless (I know i was a Crat). THe nail in the coffin are the hecklers. When the only thing to do to get descent XP is to kill 1 (ONE) kind of mob over and over again you know something is wrong.
After months and months of fixing SL i tought, maybe they will fix back the pathing.... You ever tried playing a pet profession in SL ? The 1000 razors cuts death is less painful i think. So now after month of fixing SL what did FC do ? They annonce another expansion ?
Eh what about fixing the bugs affecting RK ???? What about fixing the broken pathing ? No doing another expansion to get more money is more imporant i guess.
Now they release AI and 1st thing you know, you need to be part of a very wealthy large organisation to be able to fight any aliens. It's called Alien Invasion but there is NO Aliens to kill !!!!!!!!!
No wonder peoples are quitting this game. AO was great before SL, they should have pushed it forward and add new mechanics, new quests, new stuffs, instead they add camping, pharming, running and Aliens you can only fight if you buy a city and are a member of a large org.
AO for me went from the perfect game to the worst game. Too BAD !
I'm happy I am not the only one who is/was sick of FCs money grab tactics. OK, I paid for the original AO, no problem. Then came Notum Wars. Paid for that, which was full price and included another AO key...which I didn't need or want. Alright, swallowed that. Then SL came along. Pay us full price again, this time we will give you AO, NW and SL even though you have paid for AO twice and NW once before.
When AI was announced, I wrote the marketing department and asked if there was going to be any kind of "upgrade" price for us long time, loyal, paying customers. I got a very nice letter saying that I should give my other keys to someone else (I guess so they pay a monthly fee after I shell out my money for their software????), but no, there is no "upgrade" price, so pay us for AO a third time, NW a second and we will throw in AI and by the way, the person just starting out didn't get suckered out of a load of money and they get everything you have...and you got to pay us monthly to play.
Bah! I gave up my account before AI was launched and went elsewhere with my money, where I don't have to pay for their expansions. It's too bad, I really enjoyed AO, but that was getting silly.
This is just bad business and a huge money grab. It suxx0rs!
What game does not charge for major expansions ?
Ultima Online - Charges
EQ - Charges
DAoC - Charges
FFXI- Charges
COH- Charges (or will charge for CoV)
SWG- Charges
Shadowbane - Charges
Asherons Call - Charges (Dark Majesty)
Pong Online - Unknown
Seriously, all companies that have to spend some serious bucks in developpement do charge for expansions. I imagine that you are talking about content upgrades (Asheron's Call), and I agree that other comapnies do a better job than Funcom, but unfortunately I find their games dull .....
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Also, and correct me if I am wrong here but none of them games have a release like AI.
What I mean is they either release the expansion only, meaning only you need o be a subscriber to use that box, OR they release a box with ALL current expansions in it, ready to play. You do not release a version with only the first and latest content, and force people to buy the stuff in between, that just smells fraud to me..
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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"FUNCOM", We put the FU in FUN.
EVE doesn't charge for expansions, though their monthly costs are on the high side, which makes up for this in my book. As you stated you may find the game dull.
It's not my contention that Funcom should not charge for the expansion. I have and had no problems with that. What I have a problem with is the fact that I had to keep paying for the part I already own.
Let's see, maybe getting an "upgrade" for say $10 to add Notum Wars and only have that key in the package, $15 for SL since it was a pretty big add on and $15 for AI for the same reason, would have been cool instead of making me pay for multiple AO and SL keys which I didn't want, need or use.
sorry, double post