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Sad but true !
zspawn
Member Posts: 410
http://twentyfifthnovember.com/
They already cleared Naxxramas 2 days after release.
I don't know about you but this made me sad.
I personally find it quite dissapointing all the loot are known already but actually having people clearing endgame from 2nd day is a bit...sad...
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you missed the point....
In 2 days a 25man raid is cleared and the cap is reached.
Does it matter if they did it cause they knew tactics?
And it's doable in sunwell lvl 70 gear ?
Naxxramas is meant to be a beginners raid instance. It is not surprising that it's been cleared already, especially when it was available on beta and the fact you don't need to upgrade BC high end level gear to do it.
EDIT: Naxxramas
The success of another guild is nothing to be sad over, quite the opposite, only a truely selfish individual would think otherwise.
Some things to consider:
(1) They all leveled to 80 in beta instead of waiting for premades, then ran the content at endgame.
(2) Experience from past-raids on these encounters is a massive benefit.
(3) Number one guild in the world, formed from the two top guilds.
(4) Top quality players, achieve top quality results.
I suspect OP is one of the same folks that naysayed the achievement on mmo-champion, if not, well then you need to learn some simple basic premises.
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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dont you have to be lvl 80 for 25man version?
Man blizzard devs said u can use sunwell gera into late late 70's jesus christ their are peopel still using tanking items from bwl in tbc in bt and mh. THIS is world number 1 guild, repeat worlds number 1 guild. Nihilum and sk gaming merged, so you find it suprising that the best players from the worlds number 1 raiding guild have cleared naxx, with the knowledge they have from beta and pre tbc about naxx? jesus they could probably do naxx blindfoded. This is noob raid for them most likely.
Yeh I'm sure it was all skill
Best people/ players/ guild whatever I still believe 2nd day to be capped and clearing a 25man raid is a tad too much
wowarmory.com
They have over two dozen 80s in the roster currently, it updates slow, you need to click the actual character names because the level shown is more than likely innacurate. Upon it opening the actual characters armory page, you will see the accurate level. They have a ton of 80s.
Dedication gets results, fast, this is not a new concept.
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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Man blizzard devs said u can use sunwell gera into late late 70's jesus christ their are peopel still using tanking items from bwl in tbc in bt and mh. THIS is world number 1 guild, repeat worlds number 1 guild. Nihilum and sk gaming merged, so you find it suprising that the best players from the worlds number 1 raiding guild have cleared naxx, with the knowledge they have from beta and pre tbc about naxx? jesus they could probably do naxx blindfoded. This is noob raid for them most likely.
Yeh I'm sure it was all skill
Best people/ players/ guild whatever I still believe 2nd day to be capped and clearing a 25man raid is a tad too much
This is 1 guild, som 40 odd people out of 11miilion, who after learning 25 naxx backwards powerleveled to 80 and sweeped through the raid in 1 sitting.
Just like BWL, I remember my guild would take 3 sittings to clear it then after a few month all done in 1 sitting. around 2 hours... will practice things get very very easy.
You cant select 25 pug players, auto level them to 80 and expect them to clear naxx. but this guild who spent many hours in naxx in beta can .
[edit] This event is very much the exception and not the rule, A rouge dinged 80 on my server today (first rouge to do so.. yet I am still lvl 70 LOL)
I'm not even registered on mmo-champion.
It is an achievement I do not doubt that.
I do not doubt their dedication to what they want to do if it rocks their boat etc. but I kinda feel the game shouldn't allow this to happen in such a short period of time.
If it was done in 1-2 weeks then It would be better I think.
I'm not posting this to troll or complain even if it does dissapoint me personally the game can be fast forwarded, I just wanted to see how the rest see it
None of these folks that are racing to the end bother me. It's their 15/mo. If that's how they enjoy a game, great! That's not the way I do it because I am horribly casual at games, but different strokes for different folks.
It's a proven historical fact that beer saved humankind.
No worries, I only mentioned mmo-champion because there were a few people who held a very similar opinion, my apologies for sounding like I was being accusatory.
I am curious though, is it just that you think Raiding in general has been dumbed down too much? I do agree that seeing Naxx25 cleared this fast is an indicator of a few things (especially when past content has never been cleared this fast, ever), but I have yet to make the judgment for myself as to whether or not Raiding has been dumbed down to the point of "faceroll" status.
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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I really don't mind either - They like it good for them but I do believe it affects on how other guilds behave as well by setting high standards etc. but ok.
I am casual myself more in it for the adventure, exploration and community and WoW offered none of those so I moved on.
If you want a gear based game where you either race to endgame PvE or hardcore PvP ratings it's the best out there ! Good graphics, plays smooth on most PCs, easy to play / learn, decent level up procedure etc. etc.
But I don't know It kinda feels like a movie someone told you the ending before you watch it
We will most probably see even faster progress in WotLK than we saw in BC. Blizzard have pretty much said that there will be no instance as hard as Sunwell Plateau was in BC.
This is a good thing imo. Sure it's fun to read about these major guilds that beat contant you'll never even see for your self. But catering to such a low percentage as Sunwell Plateau did is not a good idea.
This will however result in faster progress for these top hardcore guild of course.
Well I was a level 60 raider and a level 70 - Had fun times but I tend to believe the game offers too many routes to the end now...
I mean ok at level 60 raiding was quite demaning and hardcore at some point and was kind of hard to supply gold for it but at least it felt more of an achievement...
I think you either took the way of the raid or the PvP - You simply couldn't do both at the same time... Unless you went rank 14 in PvP then decided to raid but still you were doing 1 thing at a time...
At this point tho, you can play arena get PvP gear which can be used for PvE for some classes...You can get badges from heroics and get PvP or PvE gear...
They try to cater to both the hardcore and casual however I'm not sure who's favored more in the end...
The potential problem is if they can clear Naxxramas now, then I don't know when they'll kill every raid boss.
But what is kind of worrying is this for me: Assume you're the regular 3-4 raids a week person with your 2 year old guild. You went up to BT in TBC (not Sunwell even) and now are on your way to 80 - In 2-3 weeks tops you'll be 80 and I'm sure you can probably clear Naxxramas within first week of raiding it and so on...
I don't know but I haven't seen a vast amount of content in Wotlk - A half-decent guild can probably finish all PvE by March ? Too easy isn't it ?
No worries, I only mentioned mmo-champion because there were a few people who held a very similar opinion, my apologies for sounding like I was being accusatory.
I am curious though, is it just that you think Raiding in general has been dumbed down too much? I do agree that seeing Naxx25 cleared this fast is an indicator of a few things (especially when past content has never been cleared this fast, ever), but I have yet to make the judgment for myself as to whether or not Raiding has been dumbed down to the point of "faceroll" status.
If it has been dumbed down we only have ourselves to blame, all the QQ'ing over 40man raids etc. I prefered the raids and dugeon pre-TBC, they felt more epic, BRD is a good example, a massive place and UBRS. I have felt the starter dungeons in Wotlk are a little easy, no one uses CC any more its, just gather them up and AOE. So far thats my only negative comment on wrath.
I couldn't agree more.
It's like we get what we always wanted but we ain't really happy with it now :P
I'm kind of glad I moved on to another kind of MMO and play less / enjoy more these days...
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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I bought TBC on release day but WOTLK ? I'll wait till Easter to even consider it as it is right now...Wait till things settle down and see if I'm interested then.
I do think WoW is a GREAT MMO right now if you are new to the game but that's about it
(4) Top quality nolifers, acheive top quality video game results.
While i agree with your post i thought i would put that out there.
I agree it is truly sad. I can't imagine have so little to do in RL that in a matter of days I would level to 80.
Qft. Taking my prot spec warrior through the first 3 instances I was pretty damn dissapointed. The nexus run consisted of me spamming shockwave/ thunderclap and the mages throwing down aoe. Not even any need for cc anymore it seems. They have pretty much made protection tanking easy mode.