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Nov 18th Beta Update by Tasos

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  • lilyetililyeti Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by lilyeti

    Originally posted by Polarization


    Ironic that 6 months ago only “vapour troll haters’ were sceptical about the 2008 launch.
    Now 6 weeks from launch most of the supporters except for the last diehards have started repeating exactly what the “trolls” were saying 6 months ago.
    Most of the supporters eventually repeat exactly the same things the “trolls” have said , it just takes them longer to accept reality and start saying them.
    In this case it took them 6 weeks before launch to accept it, instead of 6 months.



     

    I love how you are able to make things up, in order to support youre point.

    Really, you need a life, why do you spend HOURS of your time posting on the forum of a game you clearly hate? It's like a vegitarian going to a fucking meat convention. No one takes you seriousely and you end up crying because no one agrees with you.

    Here we go again, the pot calling the kettle black. So you dont like his stance so what? Thats worth insulting someone you dont know over? I personally think you are creepier for going out of your way to insult someone you dont know, over a game youve never played.

    If you ask me, YOU are the one that needs to get out more often. Seriously, dont be a hypocrite.

    Again thanks for illustrating why I cannot stand this segment of the fan base, holier than thou everytime. It makes me throw up in the back of my mouth.



     

    Hah! I'm the hyporctie?  Polarization claimed that the quotes are fake, then he used them as evidence to support his point. I see that the second part offended you.

    I also find it Ironic how you complain about me insulting him. Kind of like how you went out of your way to insult me? Strange Imo.

    Insulting people because there opinions are biased and hypocritical is wrong?

    making fun of people who spend hours talking to people they don't like about things they don't like, is wrong?

    I guess all 3 of us are hypocrits.

  • LtldoggLtldogg Member UncommonPosts: 282
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Fratman

    Originally posted by Aragon100


     



     

    Those quotes was of course made by the beta testers. Been a week since beta release so just natural there been some feedback from them. It's very nice to read that the game seems to be all we wanted. Crafting seems very much like UO crafting and it was good fun.

     



     

    No, according to the devs DF has been in beta for about 8 months. They simply added more testers last week. Kinda weird that this is the first feedback we're getting, don't you think?

     



     

    Your wrong.

    They used professional testers before they let people in from outside the company. Thats the quotes were reading now.

    You need to read up on the game.

    You have no idea if these quotes are from recently added testers or the so-called "paid testers".  So stop making assumptions.

     

     

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by lilyeti

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by lilyeti

    Originally posted by Polarization


    Ironic that 6 months ago only “vapour troll haters’ were sceptical about the 2008 launch.
    Now 6 weeks from launch most of the supporters except for the last diehards have started repeating exactly what the “trolls” were saying 6 months ago.
    Most of the supporters eventually repeat exactly the same things the “trolls” have said , it just takes them longer to accept reality and start saying them.
    In this case it took them 6 weeks before launch to accept it, instead of 6 months.



     

    I love how you are able to make things up, in order to support youre point.

    Really, you need a life, why do you spend HOURS of your time posting on the forum of a game you clearly hate? It's like a vegitarian going to a fucking meat convention. No one takes you seriousely and you end up crying because no one agrees with you.

    Here we go again, the pot calling the kettle black. So you dont like his stance so what? Thats worth insulting someone you dont know over? I personally think you are creepier for going out of your way to insult someone you dont know, over a game youve never played.

    If you ask me, YOU are the one that needs to get out more often. Seriously, dont be a hypocrite.

    Again thanks for illustrating why I cannot stand this segment of the fan base, holier than thou everytime. It makes me throw up in the back of my mouth.



     

    Hah! I'm the hyporctie?  Polarization claimed that the quotes are fake, then he used them as evidence to support his point. I see that the second part offended you.

    I also find it Ironic how you complain about me insulting him. Kind of like how you went out of your way to insult me? Strange Imo.

    Insulting people because there opinions are biased and hypocritical is wrong?

    making fun of people who spend hours talking to people they don't like about things they don't like, is wrong?

    I guess all 3 of us are hypocrits.



     

    The difference is, I didnt have to resort to dude speak, or say you are crying about something. Or say you need to get a life. I actually just pointed out what everyone already read, you are being a hypocrite.

    Secondly Ive read tons of Polars posts, he, like the rest of us are allowed to express our opinion without people resorting to the type of things you are saying. Rarely do I see the guy stoop to your level.

    You want to counter an argument, or come up with a rebuttal fine, go for it, thats what a debate is all about.

    If you are just going to throw it out the door, and say "get a life" as an argument, well obviously you dont understand the concept of how to debate properly.

    Seriously, I actually didnt go out of my way to insult you, I simply pointed out what you were doing. Theres no covering up the fact that you ignored the whole point of the thread simply to say "get a life."

    Again, more proof that that certain fans really need to calm down a bit. The guy didnt even insult you, and you went off anyway. I dont know about you, but I dont go around insulting people directly simply because we dont agree. Ill leave that up to your camp.

     

  • lilyetililyeti Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by lilyeti

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by lilyeti

    Originally posted by Polarization


    Ironic that 6 months ago only “vapour troll haters’ were sceptical about the 2008 launch.
    Now 6 weeks from launch most of the supporters except for the last diehards have started repeating exactly what the “trolls” were saying 6 months ago.
    Most of the supporters eventually repeat exactly the same things the “trolls” have said , it just takes them longer to accept reality and start saying them.
    In this case it took them 6 weeks before launch to accept it, instead of 6 months.



     

    I love how you are able to make things up, in order to support youre point.

    Really, you need a life, why do you spend HOURS of your time posting on the forum of a game you clearly hate? It's like a vegitarian going to a fucking meat convention. No one takes you seriousely and you end up crying because no one agrees with you.

    Here we go again, the pot calling the kettle black. So you dont like his stance so what? Thats worth insulting someone you dont know over? I personally think you are creepier for going out of your way to insult someone you dont know, over a game youve never played.

    If you ask me, YOU are the one that needs to get out more often. Seriously, dont be a hypocrite.

    Again thanks for illustrating why I cannot stand this segment of the fan base, holier than thou everytime. It makes me throw up in the back of my mouth.



     

    Hah! I'm the hyporctie?  Polarization claimed that the quotes are fake, then he used them as evidence to support his point. I see that the second part offended you.

    I also find it Ironic how you complain about me insulting him. Kind of like how you went out of your way to insult me? Strange Imo.

    Insulting people because there opinions are biased and hypocritical is wrong?

    making fun of people who spend hours talking to people they don't like about things they don't like, is wrong?

    I guess all 3 of us are hypocrits.



     

    The difference is, I didnt have to resort to dude speak, or say you are crying about something. Or say you need to get a life. I actually just pointed out what everyone already read, you are being a hypocrite.

    Secondly Ive read tons of Polars posts, he, like the rest of us are allowed to express our opinion without people resorting to the type of things you are saying. Rarely do I see the guy stoop to your level.

    You want to counter an argument, or come up with a rebuttal fine, go for it, thats what a debate is all about.

    If you are just going to throw it out the door, and say "get a life" as an argument, well obviously you dont understand the concept of how to debate properly.

    Seriously, I actually didnt go out of my way to insult you, I simply pointed out what you were doing. Theres no covering up the fact that you ignored the whole point of the thread simply to say "get a life."

    Again, more proof that that certain fans really need to calm down a bit. The guy didnt even insult you, and you went off anyway. I dont know about you, but I dont go around insulting people directly simply because we dont agree. Ill leave that up to your camp.

     



     

    Hypocrit.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by lilyeti

    Originally posted by Polarization


    Ironic that 6 months ago only “vapour troll haters’ were sceptical about the 2008 launch.
    Now 6 weeks from launch most of the supporters except for the last diehards have started repeating exactly what the “trolls” were saying 6 months ago.
    Most of the supporters eventually repeat exactly the same things the “trolls” have said , it just takes them longer to accept reality and start saying them.
    In this case it took them 6 weeks before launch to accept it, instead of 6 months.



     

    I love how you are able to make things up, in order to support youre point.

    Really, you need a life, why do you spend HOURS of your time posting on the forum of a game you clearly hate? It's like a vegitarian going to a fucking meat convention. No one takes you seriousely and you end up crying because no one agrees with you.



     

    Agree, that question is a good one. I very much doubt you get a satisfactory answer though cause to be honest there is no good answer.

  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525

    I'm less disturbed by the apparent lack of beta leaks and the only beta review comments being filtered through the Developer than I am by supposed fans of this game not screaming at Aventurine to take their time, do an open beta and do it right even if it means missing the 2008 release date. 

    Internal beta-testing, even with 'professional' testers is NEVER sufficient.  If it was there would be never be any need for patches in a MMORPG.  10,000 idiots acting like insane monkeys (in other words playing a MMORPG like the typical gamer) can find things wrong in that  a bunch of 'professionals' never could. 

    But the Darkfall followers seem perfectly content to let Aventurine claim they don't need an extensive open beta.      If I where a follower/fan of this game I'd be calling them on that and telling them do an open beta even if it means release delay.

    I will say if Aventurine does manage to pull of a moderately bug-free, stable game without a large open-beta they will certainly have made MMORPG history.     If they don't they'll simply join all the other games in MMORPG history that show not giving a game a decent amount of open beta testing (or just ignoring the beta testing even if you do it) doesn't work. 

     Well, either way we'll all see who was right, and who was an idiot, in a little more than a month, won't we?

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by lilyeti


    Crafting
    The testers haven’t been reporting on crafting much yet. I suppose you start delving in it after you check out the basics, so we expect more on this soon.
    "Crafting is pretty neat, rudimentary and to the point. Nothing big and fancy like Vanguard, but it gets the job done without becoming a hassle."
    "Did some cooking and the crafting system is alright. It's nothing new but it is straighforward and works fine, at least for the few things I crafted."
    "I would like to have a more clear message about resource gathering results. At the moment is says that either I failed, but it doesn’t tell me if trying again will make any difference, I succeeded, but I get nothing in my inventory and that I succeeded and get some material or whatever. Last part is ok, the other 2 need clearer messages I believe."
    “Crafting made sense. It was basic and easy to get, but you could make almost everything you want. I would say it was like how crafting should be in a game.”
    “Not sure if its a bug right now, but I've probably utilized every single gathering skill there is (Woodcutting/Fishing/Herbalism/Mining)

    minus skinning, the animation for gathering for all the different types of things is great.
    “Crafting so far seems fairly simple but very robust; there's nothing really new or groundbreaking here but it works and it covers a ridiculous amount of stuff. One really nice touch I appreciate here is the fact that any equipment-grade crafting acts as a gold sink - a very cunning ploy by the devs there, and one that should go a long way towards maintaining equilibrium in the in-game economy once in the long run. It all gets stamped with your name too, so pretty satisfying!”

     
    I can see what I want to see too!!



     

    Aye seems it will be alot like UO crafting which was really fun. They told in an old Dev Journal that crafting will not be like inventing the wheel all over again. Looking forward to craft for my guild ingame.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by ste2000


    I am looking forward for this game, but quite frankly, if Tasos is so sure about beta players giving positive feedbacks, he should do the only decent thing in my view.........drop the NDA



    This update doesn't make sense, and to be honest it looks quite fishy.

     

    exactly. If you're giving a "fair and balanced" sampling of the opinions of Darkfall, posting both the good and teh bad reviews,  then why do you need an NDA?

    Doesn't make any sense.

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  • ZoOoOZoOoO Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by ste2000


    I am looking forward for this game, but quite frankly, if Tasos is so sure about beta players giving positive feedbacks, he should do the only decent thing in my view.........drop the NDA



    This update doesn't make sense, and to be honest it looks quite fishy.

     

    Probably, the most relevant post ( besides tasos info) at this topic.

     

     

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  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by Cyborg99

    Originally posted by SupderD

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by Cyborg99


    ......Wow, if you believe those quotes weren't biassed then theirs no hope for you. Why can't they let the players post their own reviews on the df forum. It's not like they can say anything they want because Tasos will take it down but no they have to quote player reviews themselves.....thats shady.

    LotRO did the exact same thing, but no one called that shady, despite its horrible development backround. Whos the biased one? 



     

    .. Yeah.. it's not like Turbine ever made a video game in the past.. especially not one that is HEAVILY influencing dark fall..  Oh.. wait.. something doesn't see write about that statement..

     

    Lol signus got ownd

     

    Calling this update proof of a beta is just flat-out lying. Noone can be that idiotic so I'll just call these fanbois passionate. Good luck gettin in beta

    Haha, you clearly never followed LotRO :)

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459

    We're still in the DarkFall forums right... o.k. just checking. 

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