Originally posted by MegaWolf Do you really think there are specific items for people that solo, group, or raid? That is not how it works. You dont get better equipment so you can solo better, or group better... the equipment you get makes you better all around... It is just that the better equipment comes from really strong mobs that require a few people to kill it. It takes more time. Why should you get good "solo" armor ( which doesnt mean anything btw, all the armor does is make you better all around) for killing ONE and only ONE mob in oh i dont know... 2 MINUTES!? It doesnt take time to solo one mob... because im sure unless your a cleric you cant heal yourself and fight for hours alone with one mob... and still you wouldnt have enough mana... you need support for stronger mobs.
Best raiding tool should not make you best at everything, only at raiding! If they make you best at everything, then everything should make you best at raiding equally.
Best soloer deserve to be a soloer! If you cant agree with that, we will never agree and you will play in a world nearly empty of skilled soloers because as soon as someone will be a skilled soloer and be loving soloing, if he dont equally love what give solo uberness, they leave.
You want soloers or not in your world? You wont change them, they are soloers, you want them or not? Same goes for groupers. If raiding give best grouping tools, all the groupers that dont raid will have a strong urge to leave the game.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Anofalye Originally posted by MegaWolf Do you really think there are specific items for people that solo, group, or raid? That is not how it works. You dont get better equipment so you can solo better, or group better... the equipment you get makes you better all around... It is just that the better equipment comes from really strong mobs that require a few people to kill it. It takes more time. Why should you get good "solo" armor ( which doesnt mean anything btw, all the armor does is make you better all around) for killing ONE and only ONE mob in oh i dont know... 2 MINUTES!? It doesnt take time to solo one mob... because im sure unless your a cleric you cant heal yourself and fight for hours alone with one mob... and still you wouldnt have enough mana... you need support for stronger mobs. Best raiding tool should not make you best at everything, only at raiding! If they make you best at everything, then everything should make you best at raiding equally.
Best soloer deserve to be a soloer! If you cant agree with that, we will never agree and you will play in a world nearly empty of skilled soloers because as soon as someone will be a skilled soloer and be loving soloing, if he dont equally love what give solo uberness, they leave.
You want soloers or not in your world? You wont change them, they are soloers, you want them or not? Same goes for groupers. If raiding give best grouping tools, all the groupers that dont raid will have a strong urge to leave the game.- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
GEAR IS GEAR!! IT MAKES YOU BETTER!!! GEAR DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE SKILLED AT SOLOING!!!
You can have fantastic gear and still suck at soloing... you can have amazing armor and still suck at raiding... The equipment you have just makes the SKILL you are better at easier!! Is there anything else i need to explain to you?
you make it sound like there are tools for each type of fighting... THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS!
Then EQ2 will be empty of solo/grouping lovers unless they precisely also love raiding, which is a minority of soloers/groupers.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Rhoklaw "Then I see theres no pleeeasing you." - Gold Member You might as well forget EQ2 then. While I'm all for making EXP gain a little easier then it is now for soloers, what your asking for just isn't necessary for an MMO in my opinion.
One of many, Rhojan
A MMO will come and will have solo uberness belonging to soloers, I have no doubt in that.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Anofalye Then EQ2 will be empty of solo lovers unless they precisely also love raiding, which is a minority of soloers.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
you are not getting this through your head there champ... Tell me why soloers should get equipment that is good enough to make a drastic change in thier stats for killing somthing weaker or matched up with you? Why should they get rewarded for somthing that easy when other people are out raiding to get that stuff? Because then what is the point of raiding? when you could solo? What you ask for is selfish... having solo mobs drop uber gear will kill raids...
It just makes sense for people needing to kill really hard mobs for really good armor... And that requires a lot of people to do. Why should killing a snake allow you to get a FBSS (if you know what that is)?
Originally posted by Anofalye Then EQ2 will be empty of solo lovers unless they precisely also love raiding, which is a minority of soloers.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
you are not getting this through your head there champ... Tell me why soloers should get equipment that is good enough to make a drastic change in thier stats for killing somthing weaker or matched up with you? Why should they get rewarded for somthing that easy when other people are out raiding to get that stuff? Because then what is the point of raiding? when you could solo? What you ask for is selfish... having solo mobs drop uber gear will kill raids...
I absolutely dont care about killing or hugging or helping raids.
What I want is legitimate.
I dont ask for anything more then solo uberness to soloers. This is a basic solo need. Weither you agree with it or hide behind some ''logic'' argumentation. If I lack the skill to earn my solo uberness that is fine, as long as it is a solo path and that everyone getting solo uber take that path and succed where I fail.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Anofalye Originally posted by MegaWolfOriginally posted by AnofalyeThen EQ2 will be empty of solo lovers unless they precisely also love raiding, which is a minority of soloers.- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''you are not getting this through your head there champ... Tell me why soloers should get equipment that is good enough to make a drastic change in thier stats for killing somthing weaker or matched up with you? Why should they get rewarded for somthing that easy when other people are out raiding to get that stuff? Because then what is the point of raiding? when you could solo? What you ask for is selfish... having solo mobs drop uber gear will kill raids... I absolutely dont care about killing or hugging or helping raids.
What I want is legitimate.
I dont ask for anything more then solo uberness to soloers. This is a basic solo need. Weither you agree with it or hide behind some ''logic'' argumentation. If I lack the skill to earn my solo uberness that is fine, as long as it is a solo path and that everyone getting solo uber take that path and succed where I fail.- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
You did't answer my question... If you can get uber gear from solo mobs, what is the point of raiding? EQ was a big raiding game... why would people want to raid if they can solo for gear? Dont you think that what you are asking is unfair to raiders?
Originally posted by MegaWolf It just makes sense for people needing to kill really hard mobs for really good armor... And that requires a lot of people to do. Why should killing a snake allow you to get a FBSS (if you know what that is)?
I solo Runes in PoP in march 2003...
And it was heartbreaking that because I have a flag I earn in a raid I was there while better soloers where not ale to solo what I was soloing because of a raid lacking logic.
Solo uberness need to belong to soloers!
Yes, drop in Guk for your information as you prolly buy them FBSS. You might appreciate to know that a CoF was an unfair edge that should never have been done the way it was done in the soloing aspect of the game that they try to make look good.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
No, what you want is to be as powerfull as people that have to coordinate a raid, and defeat a tough mob, without putting in the time.
My suggestion is to make a pen and paper RPG character, and solo to your hearts content. You can even make all the uber gear you want.
You want to be uber in any MMOG out there, get used to having to group, and for the best of the best gear, raid.
Like I said earlier, you can already get the best gear out there if you choose to make the effort. If putting a raid together, or making some friends, and leeching of their raids is such an anethema to you, then I will, in this case, tell you that MMOG's aren't for you. Try playing single player RPGs.
Originally posted by Anofalye Originally posted by MegaWolf It just makes sense for people needing to kill really hard mobs for really good armor... And that requires a lot of people to do. Why should killing a snake allow you to get a FBSS (if you know what that is)? I solo Runes in PoP in march 2003...
And it was heartbreaking that because I have a flag I earn in a raid I was there while better soloers where not ale to solo what I was soloing because of a raid lacking logic.
Solo uberness need to belong to soloers!
Yes, drop in Guk for your information as you prolly buy them FBSS. You might appreciate to know that a CoF was an unfair edge that should never have been done the way it was done in the soloing aspect of the game that they try to make look good.- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
You can't be stubborn and not just group with someone to make soloing easier for you... You need to make sacrifises in order to solo better. If you can't understand that, go play a single player game where you can get all the uber gear you want on your own... or just waste your time waiting for a game that has all these demands you want, all i say is good luck because people wont spend time and money to make a game that can hold thousands of people on one server and then make it so they can advance in the game alone...
Originally posted by Coldmeat No, what you want is to be as powerfull as people that have to coordinate a raid, and defeat a tough mob, without putting in the time. My suggestion is to make a pen and paper RPG character, and solo to your hearts content. You can even make all the uber gear you want. You want to be uber in any MMOG out there, get used to having to group, and for the best of the best gear, raid. Like I said earlier, you can already get the best gear out there if you choose to make the effort. If putting a raid together, or making some friends, and leeching of their raids is such an anethema to you, then I will, in this case, tell you that MMOG's aren't for you. Try playing single player RPGs.
It is peoples like you that kill the solo in EQ!
I pretty much doubt the companies want soloers out! I am more then willing to put a SOLO effort to earn solo uberness, cant care less if I cant do raiding stuff, but those raiders better not be better then me when they are alone and soloing unless they also earn their solo uberness(which is possible).
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by Anofalye I am done with you guys.
Talking with a wall is better.
I will wait for a MMO that understand soloers!- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
All i can say is good luck... you wont find an MMO with exactly what you want... there will always be grouping... Why play a game where thousands of people are right there, in the same world, right next to you, and then go do things alone and on your own?
Originally posted by Anofalye Originally posted by Coldmeat No, what you want is to be as powerfull as people that have to coordinate a raid, and defeat a tough mob, without putting in the time. My suggestion is to make a pen and paper RPG character, and solo to your hearts content. You can even make all the uber gear you want. You want to be uber in any MMOG out there, get used to having to group, and for the best of the best gear, raid. Like I said earlier, you can already get the best gear out there if you choose to make the effort. If putting a raid together, or making some friends, and leeching of their raids is such an anethema to you, then I will, in this case, tell you that MMOG's aren't for you. Try playing single player RPGs. It is peoples like you that kill the solo in EQ!
I pretty much doubt the companies want soloers out! I am more then willing to put a SOLO effort to earn solo uberness, cant care less if I cant do raiding stuff, but those raiders better not be better then me when they are alone and soloing unless they also earn their solo uberness(which is possible).- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
I played a Druid from Kunark to Luclin, so I think I know a thing or three about soloing. But you never found me crying because I wasn't able to solo Dragons in SoV, or Emp in SoL, etc.
If you want a game that rewards soloing, then make your own. See how well it does. If you actually broke 10k subs for longer than 3 months, I'd be surprised. Or if that's too hard. Download a copy of EQEmu, and solo anything you want.
The games are called Massively Multiplayer, not Massively Singleplayer for a reason. Though, the longer I interact with certain seqments of the community, I begin to think Massively Moronic might be a better label.
Yeah very good point Coldmeat and Megawolf, Seriously though, if you wanna play a fantasy single player game, go buy Diablo 2, Baulders gate, Just go buy Dungeons and Dragons and YOU CAN BE THE DM, And all 4 players if you really want there are better ways to fix the problem than just whine about why eq2 wont be what you want it to be.
I dont think it is asking too much from an MMO to be able to solo effectively all the way to the highest level. It should be slower and more difficult but it should be possible.
I like to play MMORPG's because they are not linear like a console game. I dont like a game that forces me to take a certain direction. It always means that when you run into an obstacle that you can not seem to get past then you can no longer play the game.
I can understand where some of these posters are coming from but I really dont see any need for special rewards or benefits for the solo players. I like to solo but I dont expect to be treated any different because of it.
ROLEPLAYERS UNITE!!!!!
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Originally posted by starman999 I like to solo a bit... I dont think it is asking too much from an MMO to be able to solo effectively all the way to the highest level. It should be slower and more difficult but it should be possible. I like to play MMORPG's because they are not linear like a console game. I dont like a game that forces me to take a certain direction. It always means that when you run into an obstacle that you can not seem to get past then you can no longer play the game. I can understand where some of these posters are coming from but I really dont see any need for special rewards or benefits for the solo players. I like to solo but I dont expect to be treated any different because of it.
ROLEPLAYERS UNITE!!!!!
Yeah i understand the ability to solo, but to be put above the group players who get along with others is rediculous, I played a necromancer on EQlive and i loved him, i loved grouping with people and having fun while getting exp but it was also nice to be able to get on for 15 minutes and kite a few mobs without having to find a group. It was more versatile. I got very little xp compared to groups but its something... and hey on the rare occasion i would see a soloable mob that might drop at least an item thats worth a little bit to someone was a great feeling, but i dont expect to become uber because i solo.
Personally I dont care what you do. If you want to Solo then Solo. Just dont expect SOE, Blizzard, or any MMO company to give you ubber equipment to make it easier. You say you want to Solo to max level fine, but dont ask for help. A purpose of a group it to fill in the weakness of the other classes, One heals, one damages, one takes damage, etc.
By giving solo'ers better equipement to make soloing easier is unfair, they should get the same equipment a group player does, and if you don't like to participate on a raid to get these items, thats on you, NOT on Sony or any Company that doesnt hold your hand in the game.
I just found this quote off of the everquest main site.
A massively multiplayer online game is a video game where a player connects through the Internet to a persistent virtual world, joining with hundreds of thousands of other gamers in a shared experience.
The key words are shared expierence. When do you share anything with yourself? I know, you communcate in towns and sell your goods, but the real expierence of any MMO is the ablity to explore and do combat.... not just to come into any town and talk with people you never grouped with
So as a soloer when i sometimes group, help out people, ask for help, read text, sell/buy, get killstealed, get trained, see other caracters, ec ect I have no shared experience? i have less shared experience then people that group...true, but there is enough shared experience for soloers, just because we like to solo does not mean we never ever say anything to others, block out all other text, ignore every other player, dont sell/buy from/to other players, join guilds, do group quests, group, ect ect.
Do i ask for really special things for soloers...no, just that there is enough content for us and that it is possible to do alot by yourself, i dont expect special zones, drops, quests, loot or whatever. And btw, almost all quests are doable solo so far, guess thats a weird thing from the programmers if they made a game purely for grouping.
People have difference needs/expectations in games, as long as they do not mess up your gaming experience....let them, as a soloers i have nothing against people that group or raid, so why should soloers get bashed for wanting to solo?
Originally posted by Anofalye I am done with you guys.
Talking with a wall is better.
I will wait for a MMO that understand soloers!- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
So youre going to go talk solo? What will you do after that? Make love solo? Should self love make babies? Are you better than all those who participate in group love?
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Best raiding tool should not make you best at everything, only at raiding! If they make you best at everything, then everything should make you best at raiding equally.
Best soloer deserve to be a soloer! If you cant agree with that, we will never agree and you will play in a world nearly empty of skilled soloers because as soon as someone will be a skilled soloer and be loving soloing, if he dont equally love what give solo uberness, they leave.
You want soloers or not in your world? You wont change them, they are soloers, you want them or not? Same goes for groupers. If raiding give best grouping tools, all the groupers that dont raid will have a strong urge to leave the game.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
GEAR IS GEAR!! IT MAKES YOU BETTER!!! GEAR DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE SKILLED AT SOLOING!!!
You can have fantastic gear and still suck at soloing... you can have amazing armor and still suck at raiding... The equipment you have just makes the SKILL you are better at easier!! Is there anything else i need to explain to you?
you make it sound like there are tools for each type of fighting... THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS!
Playing: Vanguard SoH
Played: EQ, Planetside, SWG, WoW, EQ2
Then EQ2 will be empty of solo/grouping lovers unless they precisely also love raiding, which is a minority of soloers/groupers.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
you are not getting this through your head there champ... Tell me why soloers should get equipment that is good enough to make a drastic change in thier stats for killing somthing weaker or matched up with you? Why should they get rewarded for somthing that easy when other people are out raiding to get that stuff? Because then what is the point of raiding? when you could solo? What you ask for is selfish... having solo mobs drop uber gear will kill raids...
Playing: Vanguard SoH
Played: EQ, Planetside, SWG, WoW, EQ2
It just makes sense for people needing to kill really hard mobs for really good armor... And that requires a lot of people to do. Why should killing a snake allow you to get a FBSS (if you know what that is)?
Playing: Vanguard SoH
Played: EQ, Planetside, SWG, WoW, EQ2
you are not getting this through your head there champ... Tell me why soloers should get equipment that is good enough to make a drastic change in thier stats for killing somthing weaker or matched up with you? Why should they get rewarded for somthing that easy when other people are out raiding to get that stuff? Because then what is the point of raiding? when you could solo? What you ask for is selfish... having solo mobs drop uber gear will kill raids...
I absolutely dont care about killing or hugging or helping raids.
What I want is legitimate.
I dont ask for anything more then solo uberness to soloers. This is a basic solo need. Weither you agree with it or hide behind some ''logic'' argumentation. If I lack the skill to earn my solo uberness that is fine, as long as it is a solo path and that everyone getting solo uber take that path and succed where I fail.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
You did't answer my question... If you can get uber gear from solo mobs, what is the point of raiding? EQ was a big raiding game... why would people want to raid if they can solo for gear? Dont you think that what you are asking is unfair to raiders?
Playing: Vanguard SoH
Played: EQ, Planetside, SWG, WoW, EQ2
I solo Runes in PoP in march 2003...
And it was heartbreaking that because I have a flag I earn in a raid I was there while better soloers where not ale to solo what I was soloing because of a raid lacking logic.
Solo uberness need to belong to soloers!
Yes, drop in Guk for your information as you prolly buy them FBSS. You might appreciate to know that a CoF was an unfair edge that should never have been done the way it was done in the soloing aspect of the game that they try to make look good.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
No, what you want is to be as powerfull as people that have to coordinate a raid, and defeat a tough mob, without putting in the time.
My suggestion is to make a pen and paper RPG character, and solo to your hearts content. You can even make all the uber gear you want.
You want to be uber in any MMOG out there, get used to having to group, and for the best of the best gear, raid.
Like I said earlier, you can already get the best gear out there if you choose to make the effort. If putting a raid together, or making some friends, and leeching of their raids is such an anethema to you, then I will, in this case, tell you that MMOG's aren't for you. Try playing single player RPGs.
You can't be stubborn and not just group with someone to make soloing easier for you... You need to make sacrifises in order to solo better. If you can't understand that, go play a single player game where you can get all the uber gear you want on your own... or just waste your time waiting for a game that has all these demands you want, all i say is good luck because people wont spend time and money to make a game that can hold thousands of people on one server and then make it so they can advance in the game alone...
Playing: Vanguard SoH
Played: EQ, Planetside, SWG, WoW, EQ2
It is peoples like you that kill the solo in EQ!
I pretty much doubt the companies want soloers out! I am more then willing to put a SOLO effort to earn solo uberness, cant care less if I cant do raiding stuff, but those raiders better not be better then me when they are alone and soloing unless they also earn their solo uberness(which is possible).
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I am done with you guys.
Talking with a wall is better.
I will wait for a MMO that understand soloers!
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
All i can say is good luck... you wont find an MMO with exactly what you want... there will always be grouping... Why play a game where thousands of people are right there, in the same world, right next to you, and then go do things alone and on your own?
Playing: Vanguard SoH
Played: EQ, Planetside, SWG, WoW, EQ2
I played a Druid from Kunark to Luclin, so I think I know a thing or three about soloing. But you never found me crying because I wasn't able to solo Dragons in SoV, or Emp in SoL, etc.
If you want a game that rewards soloing, then make your own. See how well it does. If you actually broke 10k subs for longer than 3 months, I'd be surprised. Or if that's too hard. Download a copy of EQEmu, and solo anything you want.
The games are called Massively Multiplayer, not Massively Singleplayer for a reason. Though, the longer I interact with certain seqments of the community, I begin to think Massively Moronic might be a better label.
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I like to solo a bit...
I dont think it is asking too much from an MMO to be able to solo effectively all the way to the highest level. It should be slower and more difficult but it should be possible.
I like to play MMORPG's because they are not linear like a console game. I dont like a game that forces me to take a certain direction. It always means that when you run into an obstacle that you can not seem to get past then you can no longer play the game.
I can understand where some of these posters are coming from but I really dont see any need for special rewards or benefits for the solo players. I like to solo but I dont expect to be treated any different because of it.
ROLEPLAYERS UNITE!!!!!
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
Yeah i understand the ability to solo, but to be put above the group players who get along with others is rediculous, I played a necromancer on EQlive and i loved him, i loved grouping with people and having fun while getting exp but it was also nice to be able to get on for 15 minutes and kite a few mobs without having to find a group. It was more versatile. I got very little xp compared to groups but its something... and hey on the rare occasion i would see a soloable mob that might drop at least an item thats worth a little bit to someone was a great feeling, but i dont expect to become uber because i solo.
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Personally I dont care what you do. If you want to Solo then Solo. Just dont expect SOE, Blizzard, or any MMO company to give you ubber equipment to make it easier. You say you want to Solo to max level fine, but dont ask for help. A purpose of a group it to fill in the weakness of the other classes, One heals, one damages, one takes damage, etc.
By giving solo'ers better equipement to make soloing easier is unfair, they should get the same equipment a group player does, and if you don't like to participate on a raid to get these items, thats on you, NOT on Sony or any Company that doesnt hold your hand in the game.
I just found this quote off of the everquest main site.
A massively multiplayer online game is a video game where a player connects through the Internet to a persistent virtual world, joining with hundreds of thousands of other gamers in a shared experience.
The key words are shared expierence. When do you share anything with yourself? I know, you communcate in towns and sell your goods, but the real expierence of any MMO is the ablity to explore and do combat.... not just to come into any town and talk with people you never grouped with
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So as a soloer when i sometimes group, help out people, ask for help, read text, sell/buy, get killstealed, get trained, see other caracters, ec ect I have no shared experience? i have less shared experience then people that group...true, but there is enough shared experience for soloers, just because we like to solo does not mean we never ever say anything to others, block out all other text, ignore every other player, dont sell/buy from/to other players, join guilds, do group quests, group, ect ect.
Do i ask for really special things for soloers...no, just that there is enough content for us and that it is possible to do alot by yourself, i dont expect special zones, drops, quests, loot or whatever. And btw, almost all quests are doable solo so far, guess thats a weird thing from the programmers if they made a game purely for grouping.
People have difference needs/expectations in games, as long as they do not mess up your gaming experience....let them, as a soloers i have nothing against people that group or raid, so why should soloers get bashed for wanting to solo?
So youre going to go talk solo? What will you do after that? Make love solo? Should self love make babies? Are you better than all those who participate in group love?