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CoH from a diffrent Adults Opinion.
twohawks
Member Posts: 18
CoH is hands down 
one of the most fun games I have played. It offers instancing for missions, trials, and task force. One awesome costume creator. The eye candy in this game is amazing.. In the short few months its been out there have been 2 major free content additions(including 8 new zones) with the 3rd on the way. The development of the PvP Aspect Called CoV (City of Villains) Dune early next year (arena sooner). A Skills set coming soon to augment our detective / hero's abilities, Epic archetype opening up to those above level 50, the promise of Bow,Sonic Power, Staff, and eventually web slinging / swing powers being worked on. Super Group Lairs (Villain and Hero scheduled with CoV) and Much Much more...
If PvP or griefing other players is you only turn on don't bother.. Besides that its the best dam MMO Superhero Game (let alone the only one
) around..
Do not let the nay sayers
discourage you this is a good game and is getting better and better.
Justice
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Undead Stalker: Controler
SecretAgent Man: Blaster
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Justice
Spirithawk: Defender
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Warlock Hunter: Blaster
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You've talked a lot about what is coming in the future and not a lot about what is there now. Sure it's fun, so is pong, but I'm not about to pay $180 a year to play that either.
It's already good and getting better is what he's saying, not GOING to get better, it IS good THEN will improve.
Besides, I think I like CoH just a teeeeny weeeeny bit better than PONG.
Maybe it sounded like a weak response, but it could have been worse, I could have sounded uneducated by saying "It's funner"
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Spirithawk: Defender
Dampyre Defender:
Dead O' Nite: Scraper
Poltergiest: Controler
Warlock Hunter: Blaster
Undead Stalker: Controler
SecretAgent Man: Blaster
Dark Intellect: Defender
Justice
Spirithawk: Defender
Dampyre Defender:
Dead O' Nite: Scraper
Poltergiest: Controler
Warlock Hunter: Blaster
Undead Stalker: Controler
SecretAgent Man: Blaster
Dark Intellect: Defender
CoH sucks ass! It's fun for a couple months but eventually Kill 20 Tsoo gets really really old! Totally pointless gameplay, very boring and overly repetitive terrain, and it takes months and months for interesting new content to come out, that frankly should have been in the initial release as it was.
You can really tell though that CoH was one of those games that was immensely popular for the first few months it was out, and has lost a lot of fanfare since, I've cancelled my account, as have many of my friends, and I'm seeing a lot more negative reviews on this game now then back during the summer.
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"Do I come to your workplace and tell you how to kill civilians? No, so don't tell me how to do my job" - Sam Fischer.
--OracleP4
CoH: Level 25 Invulnerability/Super Strength Tanker++Level 14 Gravity/Storm Controller
DAoC: Level 42 Paladin
Like: DAoC, CoH, WOW, GW, DnL
Dislike: SoR, EQ, EQ2, SWG, KO, AC2
Don't Care About: Most Everything Else
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"Do I come to your workplace and tell you how to kill civilians? No, so don't tell me how to do my job" - Sam Fischer.
--OracleP4
Like: DAoC, WOW, GW, DnL
Dislike: SoR, EQ, EQ2, SWG, KO, AC2, CoH
Don't Care About: Most Everything Else
If you truly feel that way, then I think you desperately need to change your signature.
In response, COH is the best MMO I have played yet. I started with shadowbane (shudder) then Anarchy Online, then FFXI (another shudder) and then beta tested both CoH and Lineage 2 (third shudder). I am still in CoH as are all of my friends. I am looking forward to trying out WoW, but don't think I will leave CoH for it.
I think people have gotten the wrong impression from my comments. I think CoH is a great game. It's really fun, graphics are great, and very little lag. The problem I have is with paying $15 a month for what I consider a single player game. I mean Freedom Force has more to offer than this game because at least in Freedom Force success or failure of a mission means something.
Is $15 a month expensive? No, and yes I could afford it, but that's not really the point. I have to feel like I'm getting value for my money, and when I can get the same thing from a game that I don't have to pay monthly for, that value isn't there.
Jodokai, do you solo a lot or something? CoH, unlike some other MMOs, allows you to solo much more effectively, but on the flipside, it's quite easy to get into groups. I'm still at a low level, so I can't offer much insight on the game but from what I'm told, things get much more interesting at higher levels.
I've found CoH so far, is how you make it. If you want to solo a lot, it's possible (at the moment, at least.) But you're paying that $15 a month for a reason, and that reason is to maintain their servers so everybody can play online with each other.
I understand this, but Freedom Force you can play online with friends and not have to pay $15 a month, same with Diablo II. This game would be perfect if they modeled it after Neverwinter Nights. Give the players a storyline to play though. Then let the players come up with their own stories to run other players though, or even release monthly stoires that players can buy. This game would be awesome as a single player game, where your actions would feel like you had an impact on the world.
Sure you pay $15 a month to maintain their servers, but why do you need anyone else? You could make it all the way to level 50 even if there was no one else on the server. Other people just aren't needed (okay you MIGHT need to group with a controller who took mindcontrol and empathy).
If you answered before update 1 or 2, sit down and shut the shit up, cuz no one's listening, Update 2 made the game even more fun, and if you quit before update 1 your opinion is no longer valid.
If you chose the last answer, then you're CRAZY!
Btw only 25? Hell you probably havn't done infiltrate the warriors or the Freakshow, or faces the crey/knives of artemis/praetorians and maybe the Banished Patheons? You havn't played around with the nemesis staff or gone joyriding the ice sliding around like a maniac iceskater in the Frostfire mission.
Please, just go play your "1337" EQ2 or something other than this, WoW or maybe MxO, because we don't wantcha.
Yeah, and we get to laugh at you if you come back, ever again!!!!
::Evil laugh::
I really like CoH for the first month or so. My wife actually loved it.
Just got boring after lvl 20 or so.
Myself, my wife and a good friend of mine all quit around the same time.
I have yet to see one person comparing CoH to another MMORPG and explaining to me why I should play that. Is there a reason for this? Not because no other game is better, surely not!
FF was a great game; there are elements I wished had been incorporated into CoH. Not going to mention them all but remember the origin comic sequences? That would be great in CoH with your toon and name. Ok only one sequence per powerset and origin but still a cool intro. But bottom line is I would like elements of FF to be in CoH to make a great game better, FF does not compare to CoH, and its unfair on FF to do that, it was not designed to bare comparison to a MMORPG.
Neverwinter Nights, you picked a good one here. The playing flexibility, the GM input, the player designed add ons. But no other MMORPG has that; NWN is unique and beats all other MMORPGs on those areas which are its strengths. Tell me something NWN has and that even one other MMORPG has that CoH does not? Its a shame but far to many times new MMORPGs have been released with fabulous advances that the following game generations do not take up. I would put CoHs level adjustment system so all players can team up regardless of level in the same category.Okay this is where our differences become the most pronounced: You're calling CoH an MMO, I'm calling it a single player game you have to pay monthly for. What does this game offer that a single player game doesn't? If I need a game that I can turn on get right to the fighting for an hour and then turn it off, I play a multiplayer First Person Shooter. If I want superheroes I play multiplayer Freedom Force.
A lot of people think I hate this game, I don't. This game is a blast. Grpahics are top shelf lag is almost nill, and with the exception of the time right after the last patch (which has been fixed), it almost never crashes. I could praise this game all day, but here's the problem I have with it: It offers me nothing that Diablo II or a FPS* doesn't. I don't have to pay monthly for Diablo II or a FPS* so why should I for CoH? It offers no reason to log in everyday, it offers nothing to do besides fight and you can have no impact on the enviornment. It is totally static.
This game has a very high review, and even I have to give it a high one with the items reviewed. If you go back and look at what this site gives you to judge the game on, the only thing that can really be marked sub-standard is Value (which I give it a 2).
*Should that be an FPS? That always confuses me. I mean if you're saying it by the letters F - P - S then it should be "an FPS", but FPS stands for First Person Shooter, so if you look at FPS and say First Person Shooter, than it should be "a FPS". Sorry just a little tangent, forgot to take my ADD meds.
I have played AC2, Anarchy Online, DAOC, and I think this game has as much content as them. What did I miss?
Also I think it comes down to what you think content is. No two people will agree to that, whats your definition?I didn't say it doesn't have content, or if I did, I didn't mean it that way: What I mean is there is nothing to do besides fight. That's it. If you get sick of fighting you can log off or...stand there. There is no reason to log in everyday. There has to be value for the $15 a month I pay them. An MMO costs about $180 a year, actually the first year costs you $230. $230 would buy me about 5 single player games. 5 single player games would take me well over a year to get sick of, heck I'm still playing NWN and FF and how old are they? This means for this kind of money the MMO better offer me something that a single player games doesn't. No matter how fun the game is and what is said, CoH doesn't offer ANYTHING I can't get from a single player game.
In the other thread about what I'm playing you mention that I like crafting and managing, well you're right, but you're missing why I like those things in an MMO. Let me start by saying I don't like games like Sim City, Rollercoaster Tycoon, and most RTS. You might think that's crazy considering how much I like to manage/craft in an MMO, but the reason is I play an MMO to give me something a single player game can't give me. I like to have an effect on the enviornment that other, real people can see. If I set up a shop that sells weapons say (I'm actually a Droid Engineer in SWG) and people come into my shop and by my weapons instead of some other Weaponsmith, I just had an impact on my enviornment, granted a small one, but an impact. When crafting I NEED other people. If I played on a server all by myself I coudlnt't sell anything. Also, and SWG is one of the best MMO's at this, there is a need for other people in general in SWG. You can't do everything you need to do by yourself. It takes others. In CoH you could be on a server all by yourself, and play the game just fine. That defeats the purpose of an MMO IMO.
Jodokai - No way would I ever say CoH is the game for crafting fans. But as I said elsewhere if you want that play another game.
I like the impacting your environment idea. But whats suitable in one game may not be in another. The thing is though that crafting is the one thing other games have that CoH does not. PvP is on its way. You mentioned you needed other people in SWG, but it sounds like thats just to craft and you know what an excuse for content I think that is.
When I am not on missions, patrolling or earning badges I roleplay, and RP is the best content in any game I know.Good points. The reality is that City of Villains will change things quite a bit. If CoV is just something you buy, but you use your existing account (IE, to play a Villain won't cost you anything extra except the $$$ required to buy the game), then everything changes radically, and this game becomes even more fun to play.
I will say this, I am playing in the WoW open beta. CoH is more fun. It is, quite simply, a fun game. WoW is immersive, there is a ton of things to see and do, but CoH is just about having fun. As our pro athletes keep saying, the name of the game is to have fun first. Playing a game should be fun, not work, not a trial or a chore. WoW is fun - but it is not as much fun as CoH.
Also keep in mind that whatever they do w/ CoH has a huge impact on everything, so they are proceeding slowly. For example, lets say they decide to have looting. That is fine, except do we need looting now? Do we need to share influence in a different way? Would it add some sort of realism to kneel and loot? That is the question that they need to ask, and players need to answer.
For crafting ... there are elements that could be added to the game. I think the game has limitless possibilities, but currently does have limits. Like, why not have different swords/katanas/axes/maces. IE, one that glows, or is different, depending on what you find, or maybe even in what you craft (like Diablo, adding objects to a weapon). The heroes could craft individual weapons/powers, to even more differentiate themselves as individual heroes. Not saying the heroes in CoH are not individuals, certainly it more than any game has accomplished that, but with powers, it could go further. But again, is that necessary and something people want?
Another area is the concept of a base. I read that EQ2 provides some sort of house for chars. Not having played it, I can't speak for it. It sounds cool, if for no other reason than a place to dump stuff. WoW has the bank, which is limited, and free for the initial number of slots they give you (you can buy more), but that isn't really a base, it is just a place for stuff. Would houses work in WoW? I don't know, truthfully. I am still trying to conceive how hundreds of thousands of players with millions of chars, all having houses, is something that I as a player am interested in beyond a place for my stuff. I mean it isn't like you are going to randomly explore neighborhoods (well, some people might, it could be a voyeur's paradise
, but how often are chars going to be home? If you have two hours to play, are you going to login, get to your house, sit back and wait two hours for some wandering stranger to walk down the street so you can run out and say DUDE, come see my cool house! And he/she says, sorry, only have two hours, going to house #133334.
We'll see how it pans out.
Currently playing:
City of Heroes
WoW Beta
Currently playing:
World of Warcraft
COH is for MMROPG players who have lives and just enjoy the casual game or the hardcore to I play all the time i love it even got my wife who hates games to ply this. If ya dont like it leave. Everyquest is allways looking for a few good morons to take up a 2nd fulltime job in its endless crafting h@#l
Riiiight I'm the moron becasue I don't like to pay for a game where all you do is mindlessly bash bad guys. Something I could do for free in other games. I think you need to look up the definition of Moron, because to me, someone who pays for something other are getting for free ain't too bright.
Jodokai, I do not think people who want to craft are morons, I do think expecting every game to give them that is being somewhat blind to the fact we are here to play the game not side games.
Blazeroth, if we do get crafting I would like it to be the way you suggest. Not that we really need to differentiate more, CoH makes every other MMORPG look like they are playing the same race with the same outfit on!
(ok that was a smug smile)
But if we get crafting the sort I really hate is the mixture of crafting with quests that give you a Visible item to wear/use. This then becomes the must have item we must all be seen in, and we all end up looking like clones in our new armour. And if you dont get your new armour within a month after that ''content'' was released, you will never find enough people to group with to do the quests.
Crafting to just change your own sword for a different look with no new powers would be fine.
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Super Scot looks at his young companion, ''Try not to take out the window on the way as we fly out of the HQ or we will get one of those insidious crafting Super Villains trying to sell us a replacement window.''
''What you don't mean from The Window Cleaners and Repair Gang! They are being seen across Paragon City in their overalls and with their distinctive ladders!''
''I know Sidekick, since the release of City of Villains and City of Crafting a lot has changed in Paragon and for the worse I can tell you. You cant arrest someone these days without the Guild of Lawyers offering to do your legal crafting for you, its becoming a City of Red Tape.''
''I guess they have to give us Supers something to do other than fight crime, look cool, win our badges, run our Super Teams, go clubbing, take on the Super Villain players and roleplay?'' Queries the puzzled youngster.''
''You would think the City was being run my Madmen!'' Complains Super Scot."Ok lets go, and mind that window, I only get a whining tell about how long it takes them to get the glass, wood and go on the Window Frame Mission if I query their exorbitant prices!''