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"IF It Sounds Too Good To Be True...."
Come on. Let's look closely at all the current mmo games. Let's look at the powerhouse companies like Sony, Turbine, Blizzard, EA, and all the rest. Companies that have infinitely more resources and credentials in making mmo games then does this never before heralded "Adventurine" company.
Now let's take a close look at their list of features and some of the things that they promise will be included in this game. Things never before pulled off in an mmo.. and ummm Adventurine is going to pull all of this off?? ..Really?
Okay wait. Let's be fair here. Let's take a look at a simple game or two that someone that's producing Darkfall has released. You know. A single player game that shows their ability to produce and program sophisticated AI for example. Anything. What's that?? No previous video games ever released from anyone working for Adventurine?!? Not even a simple "snake" or "Brick Wall" game?? Ah come on. Surely there is something to give us at least a small shred of hope out there!
Supposedly a month before the promised retail launch to the public now and we still haven't got any CREDIBLE sources giving any accounts of their said game that they say is 'feature complete' and running without bugs. Not one gaming site like gamespot or PCGamer magazine huh? Nobody with any repuatation or serious credentials has given us an account of this amazing break-thru mmo yet huh?
Doesn't this all put any shred of doubt into any of you fans heads? I mean come on. I know that I am not the great and mighty "Tasos" speaking here, but try and give me even a small fraction of the respect and trust you give to him here and apply just a little rational thought. How can some of you seriously not have any doubts at all?
I don't know. Even with everything else not looked at or even considered... I have to take a look at their feature list and their promises and apply that age-old saying.. "If it sounds too good to be true, then more then likely it is". And call me crazy, but I trust that old adage way more then anything the mighty Tasos ever tells us.
Silly me I guess.
- Zaxx
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all i can say is dont buy into the hype. especially with this game. all those people (and there are quite a few) who say this is their one and only MMO are either going to be greatly dissapointed (which is the usual case) or (in the off chance) extremely happy with the game. yes SWG was awesome (and skill based) and yes i miss it too. but dont dive headfirst into the 1st game that mentions a skill based system, its going to end in tears.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Aventurine.
And I dont think anyone has no doubts at all about this game. That is just an exageration that the trolls like to put out there.
Even the most ridiculous fanboys I have seen on this forum have mentioned on numerous occasions that they have doubts in certain areas.
Personally I have agreed with skeptics many times that I have my doubts of their ability to keep stable servers in a game that DEMANDS stable servers with an FPS style combat system. I doubt their ability to patch quickly and give content updates.
But I certainly don't doubt anything that they have said so far in terms of where they are in development and that a beta is going on. They have done nothing to make me lose their trust and so I like to keep the innocent until proven guilty mentality. And no delaying beta does not equal lieing.
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Amen Zaxtor, couldn't have said it any better. I can't wait for for the next month to pass and watch Darkfall get "released". R. O. F. L.
Only a month a way from launch and still no hard info on the game....makes you wonder what they have "under the hood", not a very good sign IMO.
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You value company experience waaaaaaaay too much.
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Almost all of the features in Darkfall were in very early MMOs, but they haven't been put into more modern ones. You know why? Because WoW proved all you need is a very simple and easy game to make billions, so no one bothers.
That's why all the REAL MMO players are dying for Darkfall, because we haven't had someone try to make a quality, and different MMO since 1999
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Almost all of the features in Darkfall were in very early MMOs, but they haven't been put into more modern ones. You know why? Because WoW proved all you need is a very simple and easy game to make billions, so no one bothers.
That's why all the REAL MMO players are dying for Darkfall, because we haven't had someone try to make a quality, and different MMO since 1999
So the millions of people playing WoW, EQ2, LoTRO, WAR, AOC, DDO, etc. are not REAL MMO players? Are they fake? I guess I am a fake MMO player. I guess I can only be real if I hop on the Darfall band wagon because of its proposed hardcore features. /cry
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I chuckle a little everytime someone tries to bring up company experience as a negative thing against Aventurine's chances of releasing a kick ass game. Very happy that that is what the naysayers are resorting to these days though.
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Almost all of the features in Darkfall were in very early MMOs, but they haven't been put into more modern ones. You know why? Because WoW proved all you need is a very simple and easy game to make billions, so no one bothers.
That's why all the REAL MMO players are dying for Darkfall, because we haven't had someone try to make a quality, and different MMO since 1999
So the millions of people playing WoW, EQ2, LoTRO, WAR, AOC, DDO, etc. are not REAL MMO players? Are they fake? I guess I am a fake MMO player. I guess I can only be real if I hop on the Darfall band wagon because of its proposed hardcore features. /cry
They play alright. But you hear a lot of the following terms from them ...
Burnout
Grind
Pointless/broken PvP
Theme Park
Cookie cutter
Clone
Boring
Grind
Burnout
- Zaxx
excellent reply in green !
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- Zaxx
Pretty much countered all the arguments in a sensible rational manner good post.
I gotta say there's no way I'd run out and buy this game or any other without a handfull of credible reviews from established gaming magizines/sites or a free trial. I've been burned too many times by buying into the hype and believing a dev or MMO company (AoC, VG, WAR, etc.). No more.
I also agree that the secrecy surrounding this game is a huge red flag. Beta is unconfirmed at best. We're too close to the alleged release date for this nonsense. My spidey sense is definitely tingling on this one. I'm betting a ton of people run out and buy this game, they make a lot of money in box sales, and then the populations drop like AoC did when people start to realize the truth about the state of the game. Boy, I hope I'm wrong, but experience says otherwise.
Agree.
My days of impulse-buying MMO's is over after the AoC debacle. I just don't trust publishers or developers as far as I can throw them now. I don't even trust the reviews anymore. You just can't judge an MMO from a few hours play.
I shall wait patiently post-launch of DF and see what people's responses are after a few weeks of play. I did the same with WAR and am happy with my decision not to buy it.
- Zaxx
Agree.
My days of impulse-buying MMO's is over after the AoC debacle. I just don't trust publishers or developers as far as I can throw them now. I don't even trust the reviews anymore. You just can't judge an MMO from a few hours play.
I shall wait patiently post-launch of DF and see what people's responses are after a few weeks of play. I did the same with WAR and am happy with my decision not to buy it.
Yeah I think most of the community is in agreement on this. AoC kind of put the nail in the coffin with impulse buying MMORPG's. The deal breaker for me won't come until I find out Aventurine decided not to do the free trial they said they were going to do. No free trial means I will wait until there is one before trying the game.
In all honesty the free trial is about the only thing that keeps me interested. I like the overall game concept and mechanics, I like the graphics and pretty much everything else but fool me once and shame on you fool me twice and shame on me, the offer of a free trial before ever spending money on the game negates many of my concerns and doubts though. If that were to change then so would my stance on the game.
Arguements like yours and others are good if the game was being done the normal way, pre-orders, CE's, and paying that 50-60$+ to try the game out. I mean DnL, AoC, Vanguard, and some others have shown us this is a gamble. With the free trial before spending any money on it , then it isn't a gamble like almost every other MMO is.
So all in all the anti arguements are sometimes well made but Aventurine gets a bit more credibility in my eyes for the simple fact that if they are lying I won't have to pay 50-60$+ to find out so it wouldn't make sense for them to.
Ofcourse there's going to be people dissappointed when a certain game is overhyped, but coming onto these forums and claiming it won't be "good" because it's being developed by an unknown company is really ignorant. Just because it's not one of the big names doesn't mean it won't be good.
Ps: look at WoW, in terms of MMO experience it's really poor and over hyped.
Agree.
My days of impulse-buying MMO's is over after the AoC debacle. I just don't trust publishers or developers as far as I can throw them now. I don't even trust the reviews anymore. You just can't judge an MMO from a few hours play.
I shall wait patiently post-launch of DF and see what people's responses are after a few weeks of play. I did the same with WAR and am happy with my decision not to buy it.
I'd recommend a different approach - wait for a free trial and then form your own opinion. I find that relying on the "responses" of others means absolutely nothing... it's simply their opinions, and more often than not very jaded opinions at that.
- Zaxx
CD Projekt > EA
I rest my case.
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
Darkfall troll wars, mroe fun to watch than the superball, anyone wants some popcorn?
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Greetings all. I havn't read any posts in a while. Could somebody update me on this game? It's been about a month since I last read up on it. What is the status with the beta? Is it really open yet? Does anyone know anyone who has played it? Etc....
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