Originally posted by Blodpls Let me make this clear. Everyone who is in favor of this seems to be saying that they don't use 10 hours a day so they don't care, that's not the issue for people who are against this. It doesn't matter if it's 10 hours, 15 hours or 23 hours, it's the principle that we are not going to pay for a restricted service unless they charge less money. We do not want people to tell us what to do with our spare time, if it's not harming anyone else it's none of their business. There is no way I would use 300 hrs in a month, I won't even use half of that, but if they want my money or my vote they aren't going to tell me what I can or can't do unless it's harming somebody else.
Don't you have download usages imposed by your IP?
Let me make this clear. Everyone who is in favor of this seems to be saying that they don't use 10 hours a day so they don't care, that's not the issue for people who are against this. It doesn't matter if it's 10 hours, 15 hours or 23 hours, it's the principle that we are not going to pay for a restricted service unless they charge less money.
We do not want people to tell us what to do with our spare time, if it's not harming anyone else it's none of their business. There is no way I would use 300 hrs in a month, I won't even use half of that, but if they want my money or my vote they aren't going to tell me what I can or can't do unless it's harming somebody else.
Don't you have download usages imposed by your IP?
No and if you read my previous post you will see that I have already said I won't use any company that has download limits.
I do not disagree in principle however there are a key issues with imposing a time limit.
* People pay to play so imposing a time limit counters this in some ways
* If you are in a guild with some players playing 15 hours a day. There could be an occasion where guild members can not join in events if they are close to the hours played.
Let me make this clear. Everyone who is in favor of this seems to be saying that they don't use 10 hours a day so they don't care, that's not the issue for people who are against this. It doesn't matter if it's 10 hours, 15 hours or 23 hours, it's the principle that we are not going to pay for a restricted service unless they charge less money.
We do not want people to tell us what to do with our spare time, if it's not harming anyone else it's none of their business. There is no way I would use 300 hrs in a month, I won't even use half of that, but if they want my money or my vote they aren't going to tell me what I can or can't do unless it's harming somebody else.
Don't you have download usages imposed by your IP?
No and if you read my previous post you will see that I have already said I won't use any company that has download limits.
Comcast just imposed them. 250 Gb per month. I think they still advertise the service as unlimited, but not sure about that.
I do not disagree in principle however there are a key issues with imposing a time limit. * People pay to play so imposing a time limit counters this in some ways * If you are in a guild with some players playing 15 hours a day. There could be an occasion where guild members can not join in events if they are close to the hours played. My 2 cents worth.
Well, the time limit is not really "countered" at all if it is part of the terms when the game is purchased. You agree to the terms or you don't play. And if you live in Korea, you accept the terms, or you CANT play.
Same with me here and now, regarding my Internet Provider. I live in the boonies. Comcast is my Internet Provider. Comcast limits the amount of bandwidth a residential customer can consume in the course of a month. Maybe I object to this; maybe I don't --- but I'd use them as my Internet Provider anyway because they are the only Provider in my area unless I want to use dial-up (and I'm not talking about the new high-speed dial-ups either). So I have a bizillion megazots of bandwith leftover every month that I can't seem to use up because I am sooooooo limited --- by a company that has a <gasp> monopoly of service in my area. You know I might even feel sorry for myself if I didnt get to play my game.
And yes, down the road, that limit might be reduced. Or I might have to pay by the hour. Like... You know... When telephone service was deregulated? And cable tv jumped into being. Things we paid next to nothing for before? Now suddenly we must pay? What's up with that?
It's called business, my friends. The American Way.
Well, the time limit is not really "countered" at all if it is part of the terms when the game is purchased. You agree to the terms or you don't play. And if you live in Korea, you accept the terms, or you CANT play. Same with me here and now, regarding my Internet Provider. I live in the boonies. Comcast is my Internet Provider. Comcast limits the amount of bandwidth a residential customer can consume in the course of a month. Maybe I object to this; maybe I don't --- but I'd use them as my Internet Provider anyway because they are the only Provider in my area unless I want to use dial-up (and I'm not talking about the new high-speed dial-ups either). So I have a bizillion megazots of bandwith leftover every month that I can't seem to use up because I am sooooooo limited --- by a company that has a <gasp> monopoly of service in my area. You know I might even feel sorry for myself if I didnt get to play my game. And yes, down the road, that limit might be reduced. Or I might have to pay by the hour. Like... You know... When telephone service was deregulated? And cable tv jumped into being. Things we paid next to nothing for before? Now suddenly we must pay? What's up with that? It's called business, my friends. The American Way.
I think it's a great idea in principle. It is very easy to become lost in an MMO game as you are essentially "forced" to progress through the game content, and games tend to contain a number of "artificial timesinks" to ensure you continue playing (and therefore paying as most MMO's require monthly subscription fees). The main problem I see with this is that instead of logging off the computer and going out into the real world, people will simply use the time they are forced offline to play another game or research for hints and tips on the Internet; in essence it does not really curb their game play at all but teaches them how to play smarter and make better use of their online time.
Id have no problem with it. I doubt I come anywhere close to those numbers.
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I read recently that Aion have imposed some limit on playtime to a maximum of 300 hours in a month. (This works out approx. at 10 hours/day.) What are your thoughts on this being say applied to other mmos? Would it stop you playing it or do you think it could be a useful addition to curb excessive playing? I personally think that number could very easily be brought down to 250 and still allow 99% of people to play as much as they liked.
The South Korean goverment you mean?
And no, our goverments should mind their own good damn bussiness.
It is your responsibility that you don't waste your life by playing 24/7, being an alcoholic or be addicted to any other junk. YOUR. And if you plan to waste your life, the goverment would have to use methods close to slavery to stop you.
Everyone needs to take their own responsibility. If you need help however and asks for it then there are already programs to get you out of it.,
It is my life and I decide what to do with it (Plays about 3 hours a day, but that is my bussiness, even if I would play 12). And anyways, the worst addicts would just play 2 different games.
I am fairly certain there is a same exact thread in the Aion Forum.
You are correct and I'm discussing it here in the general forum applying the idea to other mmos as a practise.
the nasty mods here will probably move it anyway... they moved a thread of mine because some %$W%@# complained about it for no reason just like this guy.
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if it is 10 hours a day i see no reason not to have it. i'ds be lucky to get 2 hours a day. Maybe if i found some sweet groups i may even play for 6 hours or so on a weekend. that Limit will not affect anyone other than those people who need a life.
at MOST I would play 5 hours in one day, but my ussual is 2h. So thats more than plenty of time for me. But I believe there should be no need for restrictions, people should decide for themselves.
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i say instead of giving you a limit of play time, they should use your play time as your subscription fee. EXAMPLE: let's say this harcore gamer really does play 300 hours a month. Now, there is this other casual gamer that plays 150 hours a month. My thinking, was that the guy that played 300 hours pay $15 monthly, while the casual guy pays $8. What do you think?
i say instead of giving you a limit of play time, they should use your play time as your subscription fee. EXAMPLE: let's say this harcore gamer really does play 300 hours a month. Now, there is this other casual gamer that plays 150 hours a month. My thinking, was that the guy that played 300 hours pay $15 monthly, while the casual guy pays $8. What do you think?
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Don't you have download usages imposed by your IP?
Don't you have download usages imposed by your IP?
No and if you read my previous post you will see that I have already said I won't use any company that has download limits.
Wouldn't play a game witg limited game time.. not that I play 10+ hours a day but if I wanted to do that one day.. fascism.
I do not disagree in principle however there are a key issues with imposing a time limit.
* People pay to play so imposing a time limit counters this in some ways
* If you are in a guild with some players playing 15 hours a day. There could be an occasion where guild members can not join in events if they are close to the hours played.
My 2 cents worth.
Don't you have download usages imposed by your IP?
No and if you read my previous post you will see that I have already said I won't use any company that has download limits.
Comcast just imposed them. 250 Gb per month. I think they still advertise the service as unlimited, but not sure about that.
what if 2 people play ion same character to build up char faster , that is marshal law in gaming i will not pay for that
Well, the time limit is not really "countered" at all if it is part of the terms when the game is purchased. You agree to the terms or you don't play. And if you live in Korea, you accept the terms, or you CANT play.
Same with me here and now, regarding my Internet Provider. I live in the boonies. Comcast is my Internet Provider. Comcast limits the amount of bandwidth a residential customer can consume in the course of a month. Maybe I object to this; maybe I don't --- but I'd use them as my Internet Provider anyway because they are the only Provider in my area unless I want to use dial-up (and I'm not talking about the new high-speed dial-ups either). So I have a bizillion megazots of bandwith leftover every month that I can't seem to use up because I am sooooooo limited --- by a company that has a <gasp> monopoly of service in my area. You know I might even feel sorry for myself if I didnt get to play my game.
And yes, down the road, that limit might be reduced. Or I might have to pay by the hour. Like... You know... When telephone service was deregulated? And cable tv jumped into being. Things we paid next to nothing for before? Now suddenly we must pay? What's up with that?
It's called business, my friends. The American Way.
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I think it's a great idea in principle. It is very easy to become lost in an MMO game as you are essentially "forced" to progress through the game content, and games tend to contain a number of "artificial timesinks" to ensure you continue playing (and therefore paying as most MMO's require monthly subscription fees). The main problem I see with this is that instead of logging off the computer and going out into the real world, people will simply use the time they are forced offline to play another game or research for hints and tips on the Internet; in essence it does not really curb their game play at all but teaches them how to play smarter and make better use of their online time.
You didn't get it. You buy 300 hours, use them as you please.
Id have no problem with it. I doubt I come anywhere close to those numbers.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
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The South Korean goverment you mean?
And no, our goverments should mind their own good damn bussiness.
It is your responsibility that you don't waste your life by playing 24/7, being an alcoholic or be addicted to any other junk. YOUR. And if you plan to waste your life, the goverment would have to use methods close to slavery to stop you.
Everyone needs to take their own responsibility. If you need help however and asks for it then there are already programs to get you out of it.,
It is my life and I decide what to do with it (Plays about 3 hours a day, but that is my bussiness, even if I would play 12). And anyways, the worst addicts would just play 2 different games.
You are correct and I'm discussing it here in the general forum applying the idea to other mmos as a practise.
the nasty mods here will probably move it anyway... they moved a thread of mine because some %$W%@# complained about it for no reason just like this guy.
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Agreed.
i'm sorry but you have no life if you have to play 10 hours on average every day.
at MOST I would play 5 hours in one day, but my ussual is 2h. So thats more than plenty of time for me. But I believe there should be no need for restrictions, people should decide for themselves.
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i say instead of giving you a limit of play time, they should use your play time as your subscription fee. EXAMPLE: let's say this harcore gamer really does play 300 hours a month. Now, there is this other casual gamer that plays 150 hours a month. My thinking, was that the guy that played 300 hours pay $15 monthly, while the casual guy pays $8. What do you think?
no problem with it, but its korea dont see it coming to the rest of world if the gov.. doesnt employ a new tactic
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i think they should have it for every mmo