Sorry, I don't believe anything about this game; personally, I think it is vaporware.
I want to believe this game is coming out, but with zero leaks and minimal information released, I have very little confidence in this game becoming a reality.
Of course, they can prove me wrong and no one would be happier than myself.
"The announcement during ADW was that the open beta phase is scheduled to end early in December. More importantly this means that the game will be ready to release at that point. Marketing consideration kept us from just announcing a release date. The game will be ready for release, and the launch may follow directly, or shortly after, depending on the marketing landscape at the time. Obviously the earlier the better for us, but there are a lot of things needing coordination for the launch, internal and external. So our side of things (meaning the development end) will be ready."
I think Tasos has already really announced the delay of the games launch in October 31st update part 1.
Apparently marketing considerations and their landscapes as well as a lot of external and internal things that need coordination might delay the launch of the game even though actual development will be finished and the game will be ready for release.
So basically what I think Tasos is saying is we have done are part but the publisher and other partners might hold up the launch and be a cause for delay, but its not are fault because the game will be ready for release.
Blaming their publisher or GNi or the state of the market or anything else beyond their control for the launch delay could buy Aventurine some more time, but I’m not sure how much.
And no.. two more days until decemeber (one now).. NOT end of open beta..
You're shittin' me right?
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
If OB has started and will end in a few weeks then where are the fraps of obt. There must be some out there. Don't tell me they have NDA for ob for gods sake's.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
If OB has started and will end in a few weeks then where are the fraps of obt. There must be some out there. Don't tell me they have NDA for ob for gods sake's.
wow so they post the end date before the launch of ob. gonna be a short ob thats for sure. explaines the lack of videos i guess.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
wow so they post the end date before the launch of ob. gonna be a short ob thats for sure. explaines the lack of videos i guess.
i think its just a case of optimistic really theres a game and the features are in but who knows whats breaking when there adding more people but as long as the code is thre much easyer to fix bugs than try to add things and fix bugs you end up breaking more: /
Open beta? A stupid question maybe but what is so open of this beta? If I understood it correctly you are not even allowed to say that you are in this "open" beta.
Open beta? A stupid question maybe but what is so open of this beta? If I understood it correctly you are not even allowed to say that you are in this "open" beta.
it's obvious now that the game is there, all the main features are there, and the game is likely to be fairly popular (bearing in mind it is unapologetically hardcore). we can also definitely say the graphics are better than most of us expected (with some minor animation ugliness for a couple of races/sexes).
the only questions that matter at this point are: how good/stable is the game and when will it be released?
i think for sure there are external people in the beta right now but i don't think the scaled-up "open" beta has started yet, or we'd have heard about it by now.
08 release is looking unlikely i agree, but you can never be sure of anything with Av -- they could just as easily have an open beta from Dec 1-10, then release Dec 14.
I have a funny feeling there will be an announcement on Monday...
it's obvious now that the game is there, all the main features are there, and the game is likely to be fairly popular (bearing in mind it is unapologetically hardcore).
How is any of that obvious ? Dark&Light and Mourning didn't smell nearly as much like vaporware as Darkfall still does. And we all know how those two turned out.
Even in the unlikely case that Darkfall should indeed be released at some point in the future, expecting even half the promissed features to be in and fully functional would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment, MMO history should have taught you that much.
It just amazes me how you people are trying to hold this first time company to higher standards than giant gaming companies like Blizzard and SOE.
When they say something, they're giving the best information they have available at that time. The logic that 'because things didn't go exactly to the plan that they had in early October, this game is vaporware' is not only flawed, it shows a very low level of intellectual capacity.
Just calm down, take the information about timelines with a grain of salt, knowing that the team is going to encounter problems they haven't encountered before, and play WoW in the meantime.
it's obvious now that the game is there, all the main features are there, and the game is likely to be fairly popular (bearing in mind it is unapologetically hardcore).
How is any of that obvious ? Dark&Light and Mourning didn't smell nearly as much like vaporware as Darkfall still does. And we all know how those two turned out.
Even in the unlikely case that Darkfall should indeed be released at some point in the future, expecting even half the promissed features to be in and fully functional would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment, MMO history should have taught you that much.
you can tell theyt ook shortcuts to gt the features in IE: building jsut dissapear along with boats animations arent OMg super. most of this stuff will of ocurs ebe patched in later but yea.
i bet you 100 bucks allt thef eatures are in the main ones of course
wow so they post the end date before the launch of ob. gonna be a short ob thats for sure. explaines the lack of videos i guess.
i think its just a case of optimistic really theres a game and the features are in
Proof?
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you know, you aren't allowed to say that.
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The DArkfall NDA, unlike some NDA's, does not allow you to state you are in the Beta. The MMORPG.com rules are that you do not violate any NDA, even if you are not subject to the NDA yourself. By saying your friend is in the Beta, you are violating the terms of posting on MMORPG.com, even though you are not violating the NDA, since you are not part of the NDA agreement. And anyway, how do you know Tasos' Mom? I heard she's the only one in Beta, and Tasos gets pretty mad at her when she breaks teh NDA.
I personally think we might see an announcement on open beta tomorrow.
I mean Tasos said it would end early December, which to me is to the 7-10th.
And beta can't be less than 1 week in length, that would be stupid.
Monday would be the best day also to launch the open beta, as it's 5 full working days - would be foolish to start open beta on a weekend when they would have to pay their employee's more to work (I think).
wow so they post the end date before the launch of ob. gonna be a short ob thats for sure. explaines the lack of videos i guess.
i think its just a case of optimistic really theres a game and the features are in
Proof?
<Mod edit>
you know, you aren't allowed to say that.
<Mod edit>
The DArkfall NDA, unlike some NDA's, does not allow you to state you are in the Beta. The MMORPG.com rules are that you do not violate any NDA, even if you are not subject to the NDA yourself.
By saying your friend is in the Beta, you are violating the terms of posting on MMORPG.com, even though you are not violating the NDA, since you are not part of the NDA agreement.
And anyway, how do you know Tasos' Mom? I heard she's the only one in Beta, and Tasos gets pretty mad at her when she breaks teh NDA.
all i said is i know some body that was in beta there nothing else past that most people now the people im tlaking baout oo SO MEh what ever got a stupid warning for BS
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
/feed open beta will finish EARLY december....not dec. 1st. Reading comp 101. Just shows how much that side of the arguement is in need of material...just making stuff up now.
starting to think there a week or 2 behind tho atm
Open beta? A stupid question maybe but what is so open of this beta? If I understood it correctly you are not even allowed to say that you are in this "open" beta.
open beta hasnt even started yet
maybe to them open means public closed who knows
"Open" beta means you don't have to ask Tasos permission to go to the bathroom anymore, and you can just take a break from playing Darkfall, and go whenever you need to.
it's obvious now that the game is there, all the main features are there, and the game is likely to be fairly popular (bearing in mind it is unapologetically hardcore).
How is any of that obvious ? Dark&Light and Mourning didn't smell nearly as much like vaporware as Darkfall still does. And we all know how those two turned out.
Even in the unlikely case that Darkfall should indeed be released at some point in the future, expecting even half the promissed features to be in and fully functional would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment, MMO history should have taught you that much.
MMO history is meaningless - what happened to other games has ZERO influence on home DF turns out.
All the main features of Darkfall have been shown now in screenshots + movies. easily implemented stuff like X + Y = Z-style crafting i don't need to see to accept it's in the game. all the major stuff is obviously there. the only reasonable question is how well it's implemented, not whether it's there or not.
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Or shortly after.
Sorry, I don't believe anything about this game; personally, I think it is vaporware.
I want to believe this game is coming out, but with zero leaks and minimal information released, I have very little confidence in this game becoming a reality.
Of course, they can prove me wrong and no one would be happier than myself.
"The announcement during ADW was that the open beta phase is scheduled to end early in December. More importantly this means that the game will be ready to release at that point. Marketing consideration kept us from just announcing a release date. The game will be ready for release, and the launch may follow directly, or shortly after, depending on the marketing landscape at the time. Obviously the earlier the better for us, but there are a lot of things needing coordination for the launch, internal and external. So our side of things (meaning the development end) will be ready."
I think Tasos has already really announced the delay of the games launch in October 31st update part 1.
Apparently marketing considerations and their landscapes as well as a lot of external and internal things that need coordination might delay the launch of the game even though actual development will be finished and the game will be ready for release.
So basically what I think Tasos is saying is we have done are part but the publisher and other partners might hold up the launch and be a cause for delay, but its not are fault because the game will be ready for release.
Blaming their publisher or GNi or the state of the market or anything else beyond their control for the launch delay could buy Aventurine some more time, but I’m not sure how much.
How DARE you...
that is all..
And no.. two more days until decemeber (one now).. NOT end of open beta..
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You're shittin' me right?
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Darkfail is near, anyone smell that?
If anything fails, it's you. They already explained they were roughly two weeks behind schedule.
If anything fails, it's you. They already explained they were roughly two weeks behind schedule.
Haha you mean 2 years right ?
If OB has started and will end in a few weeks then where are the fraps of obt. There must be some out there. Don't tell me they have NDA for ob for gods sake's.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
it hasnt started yet
wow so they post the end date before the launch of ob. gonna be a short ob thats for sure. explaines the lack of videos i guess.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
i think its just a case of optimistic really theres a game and the features are in but who knows whats breaking when there adding more people but as long as the code is thre much easyer to fix bugs than try to add things and fix bugs you end up breaking more: /
Open beta? A stupid question maybe but what is so open of this beta? If I understood it correctly you are not even allowed to say that you are in this "open" beta.
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open beta hasnt even started yet
maybe to them open means public closed who knows
it's obvious now that the game is there, all the main features are there, and the game is likely to be fairly popular (bearing in mind it is unapologetically hardcore). we can also definitely say the graphics are better than most of us expected (with some minor animation ugliness for a couple of races/sexes).
the only questions that matter at this point are: how good/stable is the game and when will it be released?
i think for sure there are external people in the beta right now but i don't think the scaled-up "open" beta has started yet, or we'd have heard about it by now.
08 release is looking unlikely i agree, but you can never be sure of anything with Av -- they could just as easily have an open beta from Dec 1-10, then release Dec 14.
I have a funny feeling there will be an announcement on Monday...
How is any of that obvious ? Dark&Light and Mourning didn't smell nearly as much like vaporware as Darkfall still does. And we all know how those two turned out.
Even in the unlikely case that Darkfall should indeed be released at some point in the future, expecting even half the promissed features to be in and fully functional would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment, MMO history should have taught you that much.
It just amazes me how you people are trying to hold this first time company to higher standards than giant gaming companies like Blizzard and SOE.
When they say something, they're giving the best information they have available at that time. The logic that 'because things didn't go exactly to the plan that they had in early October, this game is vaporware' is not only flawed, it shows a very low level of intellectual capacity.
Just calm down, take the information about timelines with a grain of salt, knowing that the team is going to encounter problems they haven't encountered before, and play WoW in the meantime.
How is any of that obvious ? Dark&Light and Mourning didn't smell nearly as much like vaporware as Darkfall still does. And we all know how those two turned out.
Even in the unlikely case that Darkfall should indeed be released at some point in the future, expecting even half the promissed features to be in and fully functional would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment, MMO history should have taught you that much.
you can tell theyt ook shortcuts to gt the features in IE: building jsut dissapear along with boats animations arent OMg super. most of this stuff will of ocurs ebe patched in later but yea.
i bet you 100 bucks allt thef eatures are in the main ones of course
skills and spells
siegeing
guild managmeant
city building
ships
crafting
ffa pvp you know the main ones
except for the prestige classes
The DArkfall NDA, unlike some NDA's, does not allow you to state you are in the Beta. The MMORPG.com rules are that you do not violate any NDA, even if you are not subject to the NDA yourself.
By saying your friend is in the Beta, you are violating the terms of posting on MMORPG.com, even though you are not violating the NDA, since you are not part of the NDA agreement.
And anyway, how do you know Tasos' Mom? I heard she's the only one in Beta, and Tasos gets pretty mad at her when she breaks teh NDA.
I personally think we might see an announcement on open beta tomorrow.
I mean Tasos said it would end early December, which to me is to the 7-10th.
And beta can't be less than 1 week in length, that would be stupid.
Monday would be the best day also to launch the open beta, as it's 5 full working days - would be foolish to start open beta on a weekend when they would have to pay their employee's more to work (I think).
i think its just a case of optimistic really theres a game and the features are in
Proof?
<Mod edit>
you know, you aren't allowed to say that.
<Mod edit>
The DArkfall NDA, unlike some NDA's, does not allow you to state you are in the Beta. The MMORPG.com rules are that you do not violate any NDA, even if you are not subject to the NDA yourself.
By saying your friend is in the Beta, you are violating the terms of posting on MMORPG.com, even though you are not violating the NDA, since you are not part of the NDA agreement.
And anyway, how do you know Tasos' Mom? I heard she's the only one in Beta, and Tasos gets pretty mad at her when she breaks teh NDA.
all i said is i know some body that was in beta there nothing else past that most people now the people im tlaking baout oo SO MEh what ever got a stupid warning for BS
/feed
open beta will finish EARLY december....not dec. 1st. Reading comp 101.
Just shows how much that side of the arguement is in need of material...just making stuff up now.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
starting to think there a week or 2 behind tho atm
open beta hasnt even started yet
maybe to them open means public closed who knows
"Open" beta means you don't have to ask Tasos permission to go to the bathroom anymore, and you can just take a break from playing Darkfall, and go whenever you need to.
How is any of that obvious ? Dark&Light and Mourning didn't smell nearly as much like vaporware as Darkfall still does. And we all know how those two turned out.
Even in the unlikely case that Darkfall should indeed be released at some point in the future, expecting even half the promissed features to be in and fully functional would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment, MMO history should have taught you that much.
MMO history is meaningless - what happened to other games has ZERO influence on home DF turns out.
All the main features of Darkfall have been shown now in screenshots + movies. easily implemented stuff like X + Y = Z-style crafting i don't need to see to accept it's in the game. all the major stuff is obviously there. the only reasonable question is how well it's implemented, not whether it's there or not.