Ok why cant Tasos just come out and say: "Hey DF fans this game is not ready. We thought it would be ready by december but it is not. We are striving to give our fans the game they so desperatly want, and we want it to be in the best possible shape when it does release. We are now aiming for a , release date. Thank you for your patients." What is so bad about saying something like that? Why string your fanbase along? Why give out bias beta opinions? Why keep your fanbase in the dark for months at a time? I am starting to question the sanity of people who blindly support DF with faith alone. But of course for the nut jobs out there they still have a week to start open beta and end it before early December is over. I would like to play DF but I will not buy it until its been out a good month atleast, so I have ample time to see if adventurine has mislead its fans like Funcom did with AoC.
I also agree on this.
If Aventurine have runned into some problems during closed beta and need more time to fix it...just say so. Funcom said everything was ok with AoC......and look what happend.
Look up vaporware. If DF is vaporware, than anything unreleased is, and then the term "vaporware" loses its meaning.
Yes, by "my " definition anything unreleased is vaporware. G&H proved a game can be on the verge of release (pre-order boxes were on the shelves) and the game still can be cancelled.
In the end, what does it matter if I call it vaporware or not, as I'm sure you'd be happy to point out, my opinion doesn't count, right?
Sad thing is, this is yet again another carefully controlled PR event that reveals a whole lotta nothing.
Someday they'll have to quit hiding behind their NDA (which no one can actually confirm or post a copy of)
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Look up vaporware. If DF is vaporware, than anything unreleased is, and then the term "vaporware" loses its meaning.
Yes, by "my " definition anything unreleased is vaporware. G&H proved a game can be on the verge of release (pre-order boxes were on the shelves) and the game still can be cancelled.
In the end, what does it matter if I call it vaporware or not, as I'm sure you'd be happy to point out, my opinion doesn't count, right?
Sad thing is, this is yet again another carefully controlled PR event that reveals a whole lotta nothing.
Someday they'll have to quit hiding behind their NDA (which no one can actually confirm or post a copy of)
They cant post or confirm it because they are under the NDA . tub i wonk elpoep taht era ni ateb.
Originally posted by Polarization You being a member of Darkfalls community staff You being a close personal long term friend of the developers You being a long term supporter associated with the developers You being willing to fly to Athens to visit Aventurine Your website is hosted by Aventurine
Being a long term supporter associated with the developers? That's weak even by your low standards. How has there been any indication that the long term followers, among the other regular players let in the beta, are 'associated' with the developers? Hey, you must be 'associated' with the staff at MMORPG.com, since by forumfall's standards you'd apply to be a long term supporter on these forums!
ohwaitno, the only association you've had with MMORPG.com's staff is with their banhammer. XD
Also, you listed the same person twice, under 'close personal friend of the developers' and 'website hosted by Aventurine'. There's only one person confirmed in the beta that fits either of those criteria. One.
I am asking a bit much from you, to count that high though. Me and my high expectations!
Originally posted by IAmMMO A cartoonist who ripped off the Noob character MMO comic idea from a old classic from the early days of Ultima online by a player called ImANewbie who did a comic that become very popular with his UO character called you guessed it ImaNewbie.
The only thing they've got in common is that 'classic' you linked (funny I've never heard of it till just now, and I played UO on release), is the name and the fact that it's about MMOs.
The list the dissimilarities;
- The Noob is (hand?) drawn, the webcomic you linked is made from screenshots.
- The Noob has an ongoing story and character development, that webcomic appeared to be random, unrelated self-insertion stories about UO.
- The Noob isn't about any particular MMO, and lambasts them all, whereas that webcomic is concerning only UO and it's various injokes.
- They're nothing alike in composition, humor, storyline or characters? Seriously, that comic you linked has more in common with Warp Drive Active! OMG Winterblink stole from IMNoobie or whatever, the thieving barstool!
I am asking a bit much from you, to count that high though. Me and my high expectations!
Nero; hot damn, well said.
God Polar, you're getting shredded on the forums this week. First, the whole "taking your words out of context" debate in the Stradden invitation topic...And now you're getting it because you decided to blow Aventurine's closed beta invites, out of proportion...
When will the laughs stop?
------------------------------- It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off. ------------------------------- Originally posted by atziluth... Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
I am asking a bit much from you, to count that high though. Me and my high expectations!
Nero; hot damn, well said.
God Polar, you're getting shredded on the forums this week. First, the whole "taking your words out of context" debate in the Stradden invitation topic...And now you're getting it because you decided to blow Aventurine's closed beta invites, out of proportion...
Originally posted by TheHoweller When will the laughs stop?
December 31, 2008.
No, by then I believe they will increase. Either side of this argument's funny. If the game's a success, I'll still laugh at the ignorant naysayers; otherwise, I'll continue laughing at the adamant supporters. I win!
------------------------------- It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off. ------------------------------- Originally posted by atziluth... Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Still, she can't just put her credibility at stake. She has quite an audience - of which a good part is Darkfall followers - and being a part of a hoax could not be good for her own career as a cartoonist.
IMO this is another proof, that we are not dealing with vaporware.
A cartoonist who ripped off the Noob character MMO comic idea from a old classic from the early days of Ultima online by a player called ImANewbie who did a comic that become very popular with his UO character called you guessed it ImaNewbie.
Oh yeah about the getting ganked as a noobie before you even get the chance to do anything, told you so.
Yeah , the instant he leaves town , he gets ganked. Its looks like this will be a total gankfest
Actually from reading the CLOSED Beta snippets... it seems like it will be entirely viable to kill other players in town as well. So don't be thinking that if you stay in town you are safe.
There is no safety... nowhere. You can and will be killed everywhere.
Those killing you will just have to be quick with the looting otherwise the guards/towers will kill them.
Now granted, there will most likely be even more killing outside town... but if someone wants to kill you... it will be impossible to stop them if they are more powerful than you. Friends/guilds/etc. will be very important, but even that won't be enough if your enemy has more of all those than you do.
These are the quotes I am referring to:
“I love the fact that you can hear someone fighting from quite far away. The other day myself and a couple of others ran from the alfar land to the human one, which took a while btw, and we eventually found someone killing goblins when we started hearing the sounds of fighting.
Of course our attempt at ganking didn't exactly go as planned, since we didn't really have any way of slowing someone down and the one starter spell available to us does about as much damage as a ball of yarn at the newbie skill levels we had, so our target was able to escape back into a town. We did get him eventually though, when he came out to bait us and stayed for a bit too long before retreating back to safety (the npc towns have guard towers that do some damage, you can handle one tower for a while but as you go deeper in you get in range of multiple towers and the damage starts to mount up).”
“Looting is fine UO style and I don't want it to change. Yesterday as an Alfar I ran into a human town and PKed someone while getting attacked by the guard towers. I didn't have time to loot all his stuff and I didn't notice his mount figurine piled under some other stuff, so he was saved that by the cool looting system.”
Still, she can't just put her credibility at stake. She has quite an audience - of which a good part is Darkfall followers - and being a part of a hoax could not be good for her own career as a cartoonist.
IMO this is another proof, that we are not dealing with vaporware.
Its vaporware till it releases.
While I do like the fact these are the first screenshots I've seen w/o the Darkfall/Aventurine logo in the corner, this writer is an avowed friend of Tasos, is under the same harsh NDA restrictions the Italians were under, and it appears she got to play the same noob/starter zone they did as well.
Can't help but remember that Funcom had AOC's 1-20 area working like a charm at release, but the rest of the game certainly needed lots of improvement. They too restricted players to this new area in a big way.
Now truthfully, I've never heard of the NOOB, but I'm willing to admit its one of the most credible sources they've permitted to go public yet. Shame that though she's a friend of theirs, she admits to not really following the game nor understanding much about it.
But its all just part of dealing with the enigma that is Darkfall.
Someday we'll get a chance to play it too, and then the mysteries will be revealed.
bah the n00b is DEFINATELY not the most credible source given the ties with DF it has, mmorpg.it on the other hand is the biggest mmo site in italy and has NO previous ties to DF and reviewed the beta, THATS more credible, though yeah neither of these dispell doubts that beta is real (it is dumb@sses...)
I must give the trolls this, if Aventurine is trying to dispell doubts that its vaporware, its doing the worst job in the universe.
Bet he is going to talk about the smart goblin AI in the second part. Ah well. great first an obscure italian website and now a fanboi making a review...
You lost that bet. I especially liked how she called them little "fuckers" and thought it was interesting that you have to look down on them due to the camera view and angle.
There wasn't a ton of info, but there were some more screens and some nice tidbits :
Information about the camera and angles, especially between opponents of different heights
Combat noise
No floaty names
Tough to see enemies at times
It's also nice to see that her "tone" is pretty irreverent and that her experience hasn't been glowingly positive (note the comments on sounds in the game).
2. Have you honestly looked at the newest screenshots? Looks better then WoW, Warhammer, Runes of Magic, and a dozen of other MMOs that are alive and kicking, and/ or under production.
For once I'd like to join in what is one of my favorite sources of comic relief in these sad times, the MMORPG Darkfall forums. The reason: the part quoted above. Why?: I have honestly looked at the screenshots and in my humble opinion, they are worse than bad. Reasoning:
Lets first start that it looks like the game doesn't do very well to convert screens....
I have to say I am pretty worried about the graphics in those screenshots aswell. I hope and think they are pretty low settings. I would ofcourse play the game in "any" graphics, if it deliveres it's features.
That said, you make valid points. I don't know how you can tell there's another light source behind the character, you're looking at the shadows on the ground? Well, I won't continue here, there might be, and there might not be another light source there.
Something that is saying to me that those are REALLY low-end graphics of the game engine is those black lines in some models, and the almost 2D looking sprites.
But, when looking at the other, official screenshots, they look FAR better, and in the ADW video the graphics looked awesome to mee, so I don't think graphics will be a problem. The engine seems to be greatly scaleable!
They are getting wiped regularly and they only have goblins, some quests to kill goblins and rudimentary crafting and resource gathering in the starting areas to talk about. There is currently nothing else in this feature complete and almost ready to release game 1 month from its launch deadline.
Polar finally showing his true colours: just another increasingly desperate troll.
Anyone with a clue can look at any of the videos and screenshots released in the past few years and realise that all the major elements of the game are in. Not to mention you don't sign contracts with datacentres and publically-traded distributors unless your product is as ready as you say it is. In the real world, there are these things called duty of disclosure and due diligence, which in a nutshell means if your shit isn't up to what you're claiming, you get your arse wtfsued and potentially jailed.
There aren't preorders or CEs to sell, they have absolutely zero to gain from saying the game is ready if it wasn't. DF might not release by Dec 31, but so what?
The situation with Darkfall is beyond comical at this point. Here we are at about three weeks (please don't try to suggest they'll launch during Christmas week) before the supposed "open beta + release" and all they're willing to show is a "daily preview" done by the dev's close personal friends? This is their idea of throwing their supporters a bone? Seriously? Oh, and the Darkfall fans better hope there's something wrong with the first screenshot because if that's how the graphics look in-game, all the non-fanboys are going to have a field day.
this post has a very distinct odor of rotting troll.
Flaws....
1. Games won't release the week of Xmas. Wrong. It's been done by publishers befor. Why would this title be different, Just because its an MMO? Kids are out of school. Seems like a great time to lauch a game.
2. Have you honestly looked at the newest screenshots? Looks better then WoW, Warhammer, Runes of Magic, and a dozen of other MMOs that are alive and kicking, and/ or under production.
3. All the NON-Fanboys are going to have a field day? By this You mean TROLLS. By Troll I mean people who honestly don't plan to play the game, and just want to torment, make statements that are completely irrelevent, or false.(LIKE the Comment I quoted) You think they haven't been saying the same crap all along? Aside from the Vaporware crap, Nothing has changed for trolls. Different games get the same Troll responce. "Graphics suck" "It won't be finished" "Pay to Beta" mobo jumbo.
The funniest thing is looking at a Darkfall trolls post history and seeing fanboi posts in WOW forums. WOW's graphics were outdated when the game released, and look where it still is now.
The situation with Darkfall is beyond comical at this point. Here we are at about three weeks (please don't try to suggest they'll launch during Christmas week) before the supposed "open beta + release" and all they're willing to show is a "daily preview" done by the dev's close personal friends? This is their idea of throwing their supporters a bone? Seriously? Oh, and the Darkfall fans better hope there's something wrong with the first screenshot because if that's how the graphics look in-game, all the non-fanboys are going to have a field day.
this post has a very distinct odor of rotting troll.
Flaws....
1. Games won't release the week of Xmas. Wrong. It's been done by publishers befor. Why would this title be different, Just because its an MMO? Kids are out of school. Seems like a great time to lauch a game.
2. Have you honestly looked at the newest screenshots? Looks better then WoW, Warhammer, Runes of Magic, and a dozen of other MMOs that are alive and kicking, and/ or under production.
3. All the NON-Fanboys are going to have a field day? By this You mean TROLLS. By Troll I mean people who honestly don't plan to play the game, and just want to torment, make statements that are completely irrelevent, or false.(LIKE the Comment I quoted) You think they haven't been saying the same crap all along? Aside from the Vaporware crap, Nothing has changed for trolls. Different games get the same Troll responce. "Graphics suck" "It won't be finished" "Pay to Beta" mobo jumbo.
The funniest thing is looking at a Darkfall trolls post history and seeing fanboi posts in WOW forums. WOW's graphics were outdated when the game released, and look where it still is now.
Isn't that the truth. With all their gadrillions of subscribers and mounds of cash, you think they would have updated the engine a little smidge. Then, they'd probably lose a lot of 'scribers, because most players new in a certain genre will jump on the first sniff of change.
Bet he is going to talk about the smart goblin AI in the second part. Ah well. great first an obscure italian website and now a fanboi making a review...
You lost that bet. I especially liked how she called them little "fuckers" and thought it was interesting that you have to look down on them due to the camera view and angle.
There wasn't a ton of info, but there were some more screens and some nice tidbits :
Information about the camera and angles, especially between opponents of different heights
Combat noise
No floaty names
Tough to see enemies at times
It's also nice to see that her "tone" is pretty irreverent and that her experience hasn't been glowingly positive (note the comments on sounds in the game).
~Ripper
She is smart... And I loved every piece of information there, brings EQ memories back.,
...and the game is running at default gfx settings (apparently because she wasn't authorised to post screenshots at different settings). We'll also be seeing some screenshots with the shadows turned on and off next (which she has been authorised to show).
Oh yeah about the getting ganked as a noobie before you even get the chance to do anything, told you so.
Yeah , the instant he leaves town , he gets ganked. Its looks like this will be a total gankfest
Make character. Gank newbs. When you can't get around easily anymore because of guards killing you or wahtever penalties exist for ganking, erase character, make new character, gank more newbs.
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I also agree on this.
If Aventurine have runned into some problems during closed beta and need more time to fix it...just say so. Funcom said everything was ok with AoC......and look what happend.
BS.
Look up vaporware. If DF is vaporware, than anything unreleased is, and then the term "vaporware" loses its meaning.
Yes, by "my " definition anything unreleased is vaporware. G&H proved a game can be on the verge of release (pre-order boxes were on the shelves) and the game still can be cancelled.
In the end, what does it matter if I call it vaporware or not, as I'm sure you'd be happy to point out, my opinion doesn't count, right?
Sad thing is, this is yet again another carefully controlled PR event that reveals a whole lotta nothing.
Someday they'll have to quit hiding behind their NDA (which no one can actually confirm or post a copy of)
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BS.
Look up vaporware. If DF is vaporware, than anything unreleased is, and then the term "vaporware" loses its meaning.
Yes, by "my " definition anything unreleased is vaporware. G&H proved a game can be on the verge of release (pre-order boxes were on the shelves) and the game still can be cancelled.
In the end, what does it matter if I call it vaporware or not, as I'm sure you'd be happy to point out, my opinion doesn't count, right?
Sad thing is, this is yet again another carefully controlled PR event that reveals a whole lotta nothing.
Someday they'll have to quit hiding behind their NDA (which no one can actually confirm or post a copy of)
They cant post or confirm it because they are under the NDA
. tub i wonk elpoep taht era ni ateb. 
Being a long term supporter associated with the developers? That's weak even by your low standards. How has there been any indication that the long term followers, among the other regular players let in the beta, are 'associated' with the developers? Hey, you must be 'associated' with the staff at MMORPG.com, since by forumfall's standards you'd apply to be a long term supporter on these forums!
ohwaitno, the only association you've had with MMORPG.com's staff is with their banhammer. XD
Also, you listed the same person twice, under 'close personal friend of the developers' and 'website hosted by Aventurine'. There's only one person confirmed in the beta that fits either of those criteria. One.
I am asking a bit much from you, to count that high though. Me and my high expectations!
The only thing they've got in common is that 'classic' you linked (funny I've never heard of it till just now, and I played UO on release), is the name and the fact that it's about MMOs.
The list the dissimilarities;
- The Noob is (hand?) drawn, the webcomic you linked is made from screenshots.
- The Noob has an ongoing story and character development, that webcomic appeared to be random, unrelated self-insertion stories about UO.
- The Noob isn't about any particular MMO, and lambasts them all, whereas that webcomic is concerning only UO and it's various injokes.
- They're nothing alike in composition, humor, storyline or characters? Seriously, that comic you linked has more in common with Warp Drive Active! OMG Winterblink stole from IMNoobie or whatever, the thieving barstool!
Nero; hot damn, well said.
God Polar, you're getting shredded on the forums this week. First, the whole "taking your words out of context" debate in the Stradden invitation topic...And now you're getting it because you decided to blow Aventurine's closed beta invites, out of proportion...
When will the laughs stop?
-------------------------------
It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
-------------------------------
Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Nero; hot damn, well said.
God Polar, you're getting shredded on the forums this week. First, the whole "taking your words out of context" debate in the Stradden invitation topic...And now you're getting it because you decided to blow Aventurine's closed beta invites, out of proportion...
When will the laughs stop?
December 31, 2008.
December 31, 2008.
No, by then I believe they will increase. Either side of this argument's funny. If the game's a success, I'll still laugh at the ignorant naysayers; otherwise, I'll continue laughing at the adamant supporters. I win!
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
-------------------------------
Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
A cartoonist who ripped off the Noob character MMO comic idea from a old classic from the early days of Ultima online by a player called ImANewbie who did a comic that become very popular with his UO character called you guessed it ImaNewbie.
www.imanewbie.com/
"The Noob" is heads and shoulders above imanewbie. I have read every bit of both, and frankly, I don't see the ripoff you see.
Please clarify.
Yeah , the instant he leaves town , he gets ganked. Its looks like this will be a total gankfest
Yeah , the instant he leaves town , he gets ganked. Its looks like this will be a total gankfest
Actually from reading the CLOSED Beta snippets... it seems like it will be entirely viable to kill other players in town as well. So don't be thinking that if you stay in town you are safe.
There is no safety... nowhere. You can and will be killed everywhere.
Those killing you will just have to be quick with the looting otherwise the guards/towers will kill them.
Now granted, there will most likely be even more killing outside town... but if someone wants to kill you... it will be impossible to stop them if they are more powerful than you. Friends/guilds/etc. will be very important, but even that won't be enough if your enemy has more of all those than you do.
These are the quotes I am referring to:
“I love the fact that you can hear someone fighting from quite far away. The other day myself and a couple of others ran from the alfar land to the human one, which took a while btw, and we eventually found someone killing goblins when we started hearing the sounds of fighting.
Of course our attempt at ganking didn't exactly go as planned, since we didn't really have any way of slowing someone down and the one starter spell available to us does about as much damage as a ball of yarn at the newbie skill levels we had, so our target was able to escape back into a town. We did get him eventually though, when he came out to bait us and stayed for a bit too long before retreating back to safety (the npc towns have guard towers that do some damage, you can handle one tower for a while but as you go deeper in you get in range of multiple towers and the damage starts to mount up).”
“Looting is fine UO style and I don't want it to change. Yesterday as an Alfar I ran into a human town and PKed someone while getting attacked by the guard towers. I didn't have time to loot all his stuff and I didn't notice his mount figurine piled under some other stuff, so he was saved that by the cool looting system.”
So protect yourself formt he gankfest.... dont blame the game mechanics because you dont have what it takes
Bet he is going to talk about the smart goblin AI in the second part.
Ah well. great first an obscure italian website and now a fanboi making a review...
Its vaporware till it releases.
While I do like the fact these are the first screenshots I've seen w/o the Darkfall/Aventurine logo in the corner, this writer is an avowed friend of Tasos, is under the same harsh NDA restrictions the Italians were under, and it appears she got to play the same noob/starter zone they did as well.
Can't help but remember that Funcom had AOC's 1-20 area working like a charm at release, but the rest of the game certainly needed lots of improvement. They too restricted players to this new area in a big way.
Now truthfully, I've never heard of the NOOB, but I'm willing to admit its one of the most credible sources they've permitted to go public yet. Shame that though she's a friend of theirs, she admits to not really following the game nor understanding much about it.
But its all just part of dealing with the enigma that is Darkfall.
Someday we'll get a chance to play it too, and then the mysteries will be revealed.
bah the n00b is DEFINATELY not the most credible source given the ties with DF it has, mmorpg.it on the other hand is the biggest mmo site in italy and has NO previous ties to DF and reviewed the beta, THATS more credible, though yeah neither of these dispell doubts that beta is real (it is dumb@sses...)
I must give the trolls this, if Aventurine is trying to dispell doubts that its vaporware, its doing the worst job in the universe.
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
WHITE/BLUE
Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
You lost that bet. I especially liked how she called them little "fuckers" and thought it was interesting that you have to look down on them due to the camera view and angle.
There wasn't a ton of info, but there were some more screens and some nice tidbits :
It's also nice to see that her "tone" is pretty irreverent and that her experience hasn't been glowingly positive (note the comments on sounds in the game).
~Ripper
For once I'd like to join in what is one of my favorite sources of comic relief in these sad times, the MMORPG Darkfall forums. The reason: the part quoted above. Why?: I have honestly looked at the screenshots and in my humble opinion, they are worse than bad. Reasoning:
Lets first start that it looks like the game doesn't do very well to convert screens....
I have to say I am pretty worried about the graphics in those screenshots aswell. I hope and think they are pretty low settings. I would ofcourse play the game in "any" graphics, if it deliveres it's features.
That said, you make valid points. I don't know how you can tell there's another light source behind the character, you're looking at the shadows on the ground? Well, I won't continue here, there might be, and there might not be another light source there.
Something that is saying to me that those are REALLY low-end graphics of the game engine is those black lines in some models, and the almost 2D looking sprites.
But, when looking at the other, official screenshots, they look FAR better, and in the ADW video the graphics looked awesome to mee, so I don't think graphics will be a problem. The engine seems to be greatly scaleable!
Polar finally showing his true colours: just another increasingly desperate troll.
Anyone with a clue can look at any of the videos and screenshots released in the past few years and realise that all the major elements of the game are in. Not to mention you don't sign contracts with datacentres and publically-traded distributors unless your product is as ready as you say it is. In the real world, there are these things called duty of disclosure and due diligence, which in a nutshell means if your shit isn't up to what you're claiming, you get your arse wtfsued and potentially jailed.
There aren't preorders or CEs to sell, they have absolutely zero to gain from saying the game is ready if it wasn't. DF might not release by Dec 31, but so what?
this post has a very distinct odor of rotting troll.
Flaws....
1. Games won't release the week of Xmas. Wrong. It's been done by publishers befor. Why would this title be different, Just because its an MMO? Kids are out of school. Seems like a great time to lauch a game.
2. Have you honestly looked at the newest screenshots? Looks better then WoW, Warhammer, Runes of Magic, and a dozen of other MMOs that are alive and kicking, and/ or under production.
3. All the NON-Fanboys are going to have a field day? By this You mean TROLLS. By Troll I mean people who honestly don't plan to play the game, and just want to torment, make statements that are completely irrelevent, or false.(LIKE the Comment I quoted) You think they haven't been saying the same crap all along? Aside from the Vaporware crap, Nothing has changed for trolls. Different games get the same Troll responce. "Graphics suck" "It won't be finished" "Pay to Beta" mobo jumbo.
The funniest thing is looking at a Darkfall trolls post history and seeing fanboi posts in WOW forums. WOW's graphics were outdated when the game released, and look where it still is now.
this post has a very distinct odor of rotting troll.
Flaws....
1. Games won't release the week of Xmas. Wrong. It's been done by publishers befor. Why would this title be different, Just because its an MMO? Kids are out of school. Seems like a great time to lauch a game.
2. Have you honestly looked at the newest screenshots? Looks better then WoW, Warhammer, Runes of Magic, and a dozen of other MMOs that are alive and kicking, and/ or under production.
3. All the NON-Fanboys are going to have a field day? By this You mean TROLLS. By Troll I mean people who honestly don't plan to play the game, and just want to torment, make statements that are completely irrelevent, or false.(LIKE the Comment I quoted) You think they haven't been saying the same crap all along? Aside from the Vaporware crap, Nothing has changed for trolls. Different games get the same Troll responce. "Graphics suck" "It won't be finished" "Pay to Beta" mobo jumbo.
The funniest thing is looking at a Darkfall trolls post history and seeing fanboi posts in WOW forums. WOW's graphics were outdated when the game released, and look where it still is now.
Isn't that the truth. With all their gadrillions of subscribers and mounds of cash, you think they would have updated the engine a little smidge. Then, they'd probably lose a lot of 'scribers, because most players new in a certain genre will jump on the first sniff of change.
You lost that bet. I especially liked how she called them little "fuckers" and thought it was interesting that you have to look down on them due to the camera view and angle.
There wasn't a ton of info, but there were some more screens and some nice tidbits :
It's also nice to see that her "tone" is pretty irreverent and that her experience hasn't been glowingly positive (note the comments on sounds in the game).
~Ripper
She is smart... And I loved every piece of information there, brings EQ memories back.,
Gianna posted some information in the flash chatbox... thing... on her website.
Her specs are;
9800GX2" Intel Core 2 Quad Xeon X3350 2.66GHz @ 3.70GHz
...and the game is running at default gfx settings (apparently because she wasn't authorised to post screenshots at different settings). We'll also be seeing some screenshots with the shadows turned on and off next (which she has been authorised to show).
Yeah , the instant he leaves town , he gets ganked. Its looks like this will be a total gankfest
Make character. Gank newbs. When you can't get around easily anymore because of guards killing you or wahtever penalties exist for ganking, erase character, make new character, gank more newbs.