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Sorcerers rebalanced, now for WE's...
Spaceweed10
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1.06 is a great patch on the whole. Sorcerers didn't get their debuff to corporeal or spirit damage, and had some notable nerfs.
WE's had their armour debuff reduced by 50%, along with a smaller reduction to their healing debuff. They are still due an overall DPS nerf, but that will come in time. The complaints are gathering pace now and Mythic will have no option but to act favorably.
As an aside, the DoK also had an overdue hack to 'Covenant of Celerity', which was laughably OP, and also a reduction to their healing debuff.
Lots of QQ from the Sorc community on various fansites, so it looks as if Mythic got it right. BW's are a lot quieter as they are sensible enough to realise their day in the sun couldn't last forever and they would be brought to book. Sorcs have the audacity to complain that Mythic 'ignored' their requests for balancing issues on the 'PTS', but thankfully Mythic are intelligent enough to realise that there has never been a single class in the history of MMO's that actually admit their class is OVERPOWERED.
The game should now be a little better balanced than it was previously, and that is a good thing for its longevity.
Witch Elves - you are next 
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If they nerf out the BWs, then the Order side won't have a prayer in hell. It's the only thing keeping them afloat at the moment. Nerf down a BW and who picks up the dps slack? Not the engineer, and people don't want to see SMs with 2handers dpsing. So Mythic isn't THAT stupid.
Are they? Or did they give them another class for help yet?
"TO MICHAEL!"
Space I agree with you 100%
I don't play anymore, but when i did what I saw was what a sorc could do in the righ players hand...alll you have to do is go into the Warhammeralliance/combat forums/sorc section to see all the boasting overthere prior to these nerfs, now they Q_Q too Fucking late Sorc....you've been OP for way to0 long, and I agree WEs are next, more and more WEs are getting into Level 40 and it's getting ridiculous....and I'm only going to say this once....
YOU SHOULD NEVER DIE in 5 seconds in any MMO on your highest level (40 in WAR) to any other class......Witch Elves can pretty much destroy any class in 5 seconds, this is SO DAM ridiculous....especially when one is like 3 or 4 levels below you, this is just embarassing coding Mythic...
Mythic has gotten tons fo feedback on this from players disgusted with the WE and it's OP abilities....seeing the Combat Log when you get killed by one, is just confusing, you get hit by so much stuff in 5 seconds it's just ridiculous....who ever BETA tested the WE, THANKS FOR NOTHING LOSERS.....you know you wanted the WE just like this, but it sill come to an end....COUNT ON IT.
If they nerf out the BWs, then the Order side won't have a prayer in hell. It's the only thing keeping them afloat at the moment. Nerf down a BW and who picks up the dps slack? Not the engineer, and people don't want to see SMs with 2handers dpsing. So Mythic isn't THAT stupid.
Are they? Or did they give them another class for help yet?
Yes Mythic is that stupid. Guess we should all quit Order and roll Witch Elves from the way this stupid patch went.
What a bunch of whiny DATS you all are.
Have you played a WE?
Obviously not.
If you had, you would realize that they die a whole lot faster and more often then a lot of other classes. They are only fair at dpsing and not great tanks. They have to fight up close and personal without the major hit points and armor of tank classes. They have almost no range skills.
Yeah, you can go on and complain that WE's are overpowered. Try playing them against some of the other classes and then come back and post.
True, true, but they can also sprint, stealth and get away faster. So, once you get caught, kd/disarmed for 3 sec, dps dots, by the time you realize it, you are probably at < 10% health, and any attempt to hit back, they would have already ran away, or stealthed away.
You would probably be able to survive the < 10% health, if you are talking about just 1 WE. But the problem is number of WEs. Honestly if you have about 4 WE in any scenarios, that scenarios would most likely win for Desto. And for that reason alone, I would opt to nerf it.
Either that or you are faced with oRvR or SC that just consists primarily of WE.
It's the same as BW on Order side, BW is popular then, not now. It may be in the future, and that is part of the balancing act.
I really don't understand why you think WE's are OP.
This game isn't about 1vs1, but I'm still to lose to a WE 1vs1 with my SM. And to make it sweeter, my SM is just R37 and I eat R40 WE's like sandwich.
When they form somekind of threat is in a group, when they get healed and I don't.
And that's all I have to say about that...
If they nerf out the BWs, then the Order side won't have a prayer in hell. It's the only thing keeping them afloat at the moment. Nerf down a BW and who picks up the dps slack? Not the engineer, and people don't want to see SMs with 2handers dpsing. So Mythic isn't THAT stupid.
Are they? Or did they give them another class for help yet?
meh engineers do alot of dmg its just spread out not huge single target dmg. their aoe dots are sweet
Traditionally, there are only TWO things that kept Order even on the very, very edge of radar of competetiveness:
Ironbreakers and Burning Wizards. They are the only good things with the Order class roster, since most everything else is a joke. They are the ONLY things that put any sort of fear into Destruction players, since nothing else on that Order roster does. I've seen Shadow Warriors get laughed at. I've seen them bypass my Swordmaster entirely, not concerned about what damage / DOTs / states I'm landing, etc. It is only the Ironbreakers and Burning Wizards that keep Order from falling off completely.
The other Order classes are lackluster. Knowing Mythic's inclination towards Destruction from its past actions, it will come as no surprise to me that IB's and BW's will get nerfed.
Which is all why it's amusing to see Destruction players, already having by far the most dominant position in the game, complaining about them and wanting to nerf the only 2 strong performers of Order.
Not going to be stupid enough to wait around for it, which is why I decided to end my endurance of suffering as an Order player and left this forsaken hole of a game.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Don't you dare touch WE.
I am a WH and I can say without a doubt that while they are deadly in close range to anything non-tank the caveat to their incredbile power is theyir vulnerability to damage.
I can burn a WE to the ground and take very little damage based on evasion skill alone. I've seen a BW stand his ground adrop a WE that got the drop, and I've seen people die horribly to the class all the same. At the end of the day they ARE balanced and are the answer to the BW that stands there dropping fire bombs from afar. Or the healer that shows his rear to the open air.
Complaining that a WE being overpowered is ridiculous.
If you are a non-squishy class and you are getting burned to the ground... you simply don't know how to play your class. Or maybe you are in Tier 4 and level 28 and you came up against a level 40 one on one - what do you think is going to happen? Odds like that - I think any class would die.
I play a WE - at level 40 - Ostermark and believe me; I know the difference when I come up against a worthy opponent(s). Because I am usually disarmed, knocked-down, knock-backed while still on my back and end up very, very dead before I hit the ground.
L.
In every MMO that has pvp as its main focus things will get nerfed and buffed often.
No need to cry over it, it's the Cycle all games like these go through.
L2, WAR, Eve, AoC, DAoC,Guild Wars and others all get nerf and buff patches frequently.
Look at it as a challenge, if your class got a slight nerf learn to work with it and once your turn comes for a Buff you will be so OP all you will be able to do is laugh as you wtf pawn the people that gave up and rerolled.
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