I'd love to play Lotro if it had a decent PvP system. It gets boring pretty fast when there is no real danger anywhere, just regular, brainless AI mobs. After playing the trial twice, I've never gotten really hooked up. Maybe it's just not my game.
had to vote for aoc even though I don't play it anymore. the reason is that Lotro offers no open world pvp and lame monster-play level 50 stuff. This is the fatal flaw in lotro for me and the reason I quit it and could never rate it higher than aoc despite aoc's massive flaws.
Oooooooh really post no.2 (Sorry for lack of quote)? Let me put some ideas up here. Not perhaps in terms of gameplay, but the story behind them. Both are based on books in fantasy settings. One is Low Fantasy (Conan) One is High Fantasy (Lord of the Rings) So they the foremost books at their respective polar opposites of the Fantasy Genre. This translates into the general feel of the games. AOC has fairly open PVP where people can be evil if they choose. LOTRO has this feel where no player can be evil. No open PVP, unless you're playing as a specificalluy evil race. Both have good storylines and good questlines. So my question is, which do people prefer/ hate less? And no. They are far more similar than WoW and pokemon. Hyperbolic language isn't answering my question.
Lord of the RIngs is low fantasy. AoC is like old world fantasy. WoW is high fantasy (motocycles, spaceships lol)
Compared to LOTRO, AoC has no storyline. I am enjoying LOTRO because it is an open book to me right now. It is what other MMO's arent. becaue it has a central narrative storyline.
Here are some common opinions:
AoC does PvP very well
LOTRO does PvE very well
Do you like backing a company that listens to its playerbase and has a great reputation? Play LOTRO. Funcom may still close up shop next year. Check out their stocks.
LOTRO is best if you like storytelling and PvE. The PvP system is not very good to say the least, there is forced grouping throughout the game for storyline quests, and the classes are quixotic, especially if you like more traditional fantasy MMO classes. However, the game is very, very polished, almost no bugs, and runs and looks great. But really it's strictly PvE.
AoC is the best looking MMORPG ever made, and has a fun, interactive combat system. It has better PvP by a long shot than LOTRO. However, it is also still lacking content and functionality in key areas, and overall the endgame in particular is lacking. It can be fun to play, but you shouldn't expect that the game is finished, and LOTRO is higher quality, but different in approach.
Both of these games substantially underachieved their potential -- which to me underlines the reality that anyone trying to compete head-on with WoW, in terms of marketing a leveling/questing/class-based fantasy game, is going to have a very, very hard time living up to the potential, regardless of the strength of the IP or the polish of the game (LOTRO had both going for it).
i picked LOTRO myself. i enjoy the PvE aspect of the game and if it want to do some PvP, all i have to do is pop over to the ettenmoors and its game on. i guess it all depends on if you want your PvP on top of your PvE(open worlds PvP i guess). I personally prefer to have it seperate. i played AoC from open beta to the end of september and although the graphics were bad ass, the end game content and the content in general were very lacking. To me, there just seems theres more to do in LOTRO than AoC as far as PvP, quests, traits and books.
Originally posted by Marll [*]Originally posted by Herodes
LotRo is the most linear P2Pgame I ever played. In AoC I only made it to lvl 19 when it was released, wasn´t my cup of tea.
Not sure what game you were playing, the game has a central story line, but it really no more linear than any other MMO I have played.
LOTRO is win, AoC, while it COULD have been great, suffered from getting rushed out the door. I tell you, what games I... or wait, I begin with LotRo. As a Bard or Minstrel I think.(sorry my english translation:) Starterzone, Breeland, Lonelands, Northern/Troll place, the snowplace/witchland.
Lotro obviously tried to copy WoW, and its biggest luck was the career of Vanguard and Dark&Light, who were more hyped in its time than Lotro.
I really beleive LotRO would have been a true contender in giving WoW a run for its money if it had a proper PvP system in play. I mean, the moster stuff is okay for one of those "something different" moments... but just think if it had real PvP, where you lay seige and whatnot.
LotRO was a hugely missed opportunity. It does just about everything as good if not better than WoW, except there is zero PvP. Still, I'm sorely bored of the high fantasy swords and sorcery stuff. I'm really waiting for a good Sci-Fi MMO to come along.... that isn't EVE.
All in all though, I would have to say my choice on the matter would be AoC. I know it's a suckball of a game, but I choose it simply because I enjoy the lore more. It's a little more brash and in your face, where LotRO is cutsey and nice.
You need a "None of the Above option" I vote for neither.
AOC as everyone knows was a mess out the door, with many things promised still not in game. I hate the instanced zones. Does not have a open world feel. Combat is decent, although classes are totally unbalanced. At high level there is just too much UI to stuff on your screen.
LOTRO is PVE. It's PVP content is very lacking. LOTRO is very polished, but a bit lifeless. I can't pinpoint my problem with LOTRO. I think it's the cartoony design. Being forced to level by questing I didn't like.
Both games are way too linier. Both games lost my intrest. Overall LOTRO is the better game, but neither are my MMO of choice.
I choose a real sandbox with real PVP where death actually matters. I choose EVE.
Anarchy Online was purportedly a mess at release, but it turned out okay. I gave it a shot 3 years later. Has there been any signs of progress with AoC? (I took an initial pass here as well.) Does it still have a big enough player base to fund improvements over time? Or is the basic design just so fubared it will never be any good.
age of conan - overall visuals are so not next gen
heh?
Okay I love Lord of the Rings and quit AoC a while back, but AoC has amazing graphics. Amazing. Not sure what you are smoking..
age of conan has advance graphic but overall visuals look far from next gen. it dont look like DarkSector, Infernal, AssassinsCreed, GoldenAxe, DeadRising, Diablo3, TwoWorlds, NinjaGaiden2, Folklore, BladeandSoul
lorto has next gen landscape enviornment but not character model.
LOTRO is a good game if you like PvE, however I'm not a big fan of questing, or raiding so it wasn't really my cup of tea. The environment graphics are beautiful, but the character models are butt-ugly and kind of goofy-looking. The animations are substandard too and the actual combat leaves a lot to be desired.
AOC, although it was initially beset with problems is now a really good game, for what it is. The graphics, both environment and character models are amazing. The animations are very well done, you actually feel like you are fighting, the fatalities add to the realism here too. The combo system for melee and active shielding and dodging is ten times more fun than the standard MMORPG combat fare. The PvP and sieging are a big attraction for me too. Sieging is now working as it should have at launch and is a great way to spend an evening.
I actually prefer skillbased, sandbox MMORPG's, but until one of the games I am awaiting is released I will be playing AoC. I was a Closed Beta tester for AoC and have played since launch and the game is definately heading in the right direction.
MMORPG History: Playing - EVE Online. Played (Retired) - AO, SWG, MxO, WoW, RFO, SoR, CoX, EQ2, GW, L2, Vanguard, LotRO, AoC, TCoS, Aion. Favourite MMO - Pre-CU SWG, 3 Years, 4 Accounts, 2 Pre-CU Jedi (1 Pre-9). Awaiting - Star Wars: The Old Republic, The Secret World, Earthrise.
age of conan - overall visuals are so not next gen
heh?
Okay I love Lord of the Rings and quit AoC a while back, but AoC has amazing graphics. Amazing. Not sure what you are smoking..
age of conan has advance graphic but overall visuals look far from next gen. it dont look like DarkSector, Infernal, AssassinsCreed, GoldenAxe, DeadRising, Diablo3, TwoWorlds, NinjaGaiden2, Folklore, BladeandSoul
And which of those examples are MMOs? Do I hear "none"? Bingo!
You cant have those types of graphics with thousands of players online yet. So by default, AoCs graphics are next gen FOR AN MMO.
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comparing lotro to aoc is like comparing pokemon to wow tbh
ok this should get me flamed bad....
AOC - Fail
LOTRO - Sucess
LOL
I dont play any of them atm, but tested them both and i will have to say Lotro.
I'd love to play Lotro if it had a decent PvP system. It gets boring pretty fast when there is no real danger anywhere, just regular, brainless AI mobs. After playing the trial twice, I've never gotten really hooked up. Maybe it's just not my game.
It still wins AoC though.
Oooooooh really post no.2 (Sorry for lack of quote)?
Let me put some ideas up here. Not perhaps in terms of gameplay, but the story behind them.
Both are based on books in fantasy settings.
One is Low Fantasy (Conan)
One is High Fantasy (Lord of the Rings)
So they the foremost books at their respective polar opposites of the Fantasy Genre.
This translates into the general feel of the games.
AOC has fairly open PVP where people can be evil if they choose.
LOTRO has this feel where no player can be evil. No open PVP, unless you're playing as a specificalluy evil race.
Both have good storylines and good questlines.
So my question is, which do people prefer/ hate less?
And no. They are far more similar than WoW and pokemon. Hyperbolic language isn't answering my question.
had to vote for aoc even though I don't play it anymore. the reason is that Lotro offers no open world pvp and lame monster-play level 50 stuff. This is the fatal flaw in lotro for me and the reason I quit it and could never rate it higher than aoc despite aoc's massive flaws.
Stay far away from AOC and anything Funcom touches. LOTRO decent game fun to play.
MAGA
LotRo is the most linear P2Pgame I ever played.
In AoC I only made it to lvl 19 when it was released, wasn´t my cup of tea.
Lord of the RIngs is low fantasy. AoC is like old world fantasy. WoW is high fantasy (motocycles, spaceships lol)
Compared to LOTRO, AoC has no storyline. I am enjoying LOTRO because it is an open book to me right now. It is what other MMO's arent. becaue it has a central narrative storyline.
Here are some common opinions:
AoC does PvP very well
LOTRO does PvE very well
Do you like backing a company that listens to its playerbase and has a great reputation? Play LOTRO. Funcom may still close up shop next year. Check out their stocks.
Not sure what game you were playing, the game has a central story line, but it really no more linear than any other MMO I have played.
LOTRO is win, AoC, while it COULD have been great, suffered from getting rushed out the door.
WoW is the AOL of MMO's. They have millions of subscribers who just dont know any better because they're idiots. - Talaa
LOTRO is best if you like storytelling and PvE. The PvP system is not very good to say the least, there is forced grouping throughout the game for storyline quests, and the classes are quixotic, especially if you like more traditional fantasy MMO classes. However, the game is very, very polished, almost no bugs, and runs and looks great. But really it's strictly PvE.
AoC is the best looking MMORPG ever made, and has a fun, interactive combat system. It has better PvP by a long shot than LOTRO. However, it is also still lacking content and functionality in key areas, and overall the endgame in particular is lacking. It can be fun to play, but you shouldn't expect that the game is finished, and LOTRO is higher quality, but different in approach.
Both of these games substantially underachieved their potential -- which to me underlines the reality that anyone trying to compete head-on with WoW, in terms of marketing a leveling/questing/class-based fantasy game, is going to have a very, very hard time living up to the potential, regardless of the strength of the IP or the polish of the game (LOTRO had both going for it).
i picked LOTRO myself. i enjoy the PvE aspect of the game and if it want to do some PvP, all i have to do is pop over to the ettenmoors and its game on. i guess it all depends on if you want your PvP on top of your PvE(open worlds PvP i guess). I personally prefer to have it seperate. i played AoC from open beta to the end of september and although the graphics were bad ass, the end game content and the content in general were very lacking. To me, there just seems theres more to do in LOTRO than AoC as far as PvP, quests, traits and books.
LOTRO is win, AoC, while it COULD have been great, suffered from getting rushed out the door.
I tell you, what games I... or wait, I begin with LotRo. As a Bard or Minstrel I think.(sorry my english translation:) Starterzone, Breeland, Lonelands, Northern/Troll place, the snowplace/witchland.
Lotro obviously tried to copy WoW, and its biggest luck was the career of Vanguard and Dark&Light, who were more hyped in its time than Lotro.
LotRo is a great place for roleplayers though.
Lotro is actually a good game, not my cup of tea but atleast its fun in short bursts.
I ran for the hills two weeks after playing AOC.
I choose Lotro.
PLaying: EvE, Ryzom
Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
LotRO FTW.
I really beleive LotRO would have been a true contender in giving WoW a run for its money if it had a proper PvP system in play. I mean, the moster stuff is okay for one of those "something different" moments... but just think if it had real PvP, where you lay seige and whatnot.
LotRO was a hugely missed opportunity. It does just about everything as good if not better than WoW, except there is zero PvP. Still, I'm sorely bored of the high fantasy swords and sorcery stuff. I'm really waiting for a good Sci-Fi MMO to come along.... that isn't EVE.
All in all though, I would have to say my choice on the matter would be AoC. I know it's a suckball of a game, but I choose it simply because I enjoy the lore more. It's a little more brash and in your face, where LotRO is cutsey and nice.
You need a "None of the Above option" I vote for neither.
AOC as everyone knows was a mess out the door, with many things promised still not in game. I hate the instanced zones. Does not have a open world feel. Combat is decent, although classes are totally unbalanced. At high level there is just too much UI to stuff on your screen.
LOTRO is PVE. It's PVP content is very lacking. LOTRO is very polished, but a bit lifeless. I can't pinpoint my problem with LOTRO. I think it's the cartoony design. Being forced to level by questing I didn't like.
Both games are way too linier. Both games lost my intrest. Overall LOTRO is the better game, but neither are my MMO of choice.
I choose a real sandbox with real PVP where death actually matters. I choose EVE.
SHOHADAKU
Age of Conan.. no elves no dwarves, contrary to beliefs the classes are balanced to specific purposes very well, for GROUP PvP and PvE play...
Anarchy Online was purportedly a mess at release, but it turned out okay. I gave it a shot 3 years later. Has there been any signs of progress with AoC? (I took an initial pass here as well.) Does it still have a big enough player base to fund improvements over time? Or is the basic design just so fubared it will never be any good.
lord of the rings
- slow poke combat
- extremely long length to kill one mob
- next gen landscape environment
- character model not good
age of conan
- fast pace combat
- overall visuals are so not next gen
- pressing 123 and arrow key is uncomfortable. guess its made for consoles controller
Lotro for me by a landslide. Not a big fan of meaningless pvp.
heh?
Okay I love Lord of the Rings and quit AoC a while back, but AoC has amazing graphics. Amazing. Not sure what you are smoking..
heh?
Okay I love Lord of the Rings and quit AoC a while back, but AoC has amazing graphics. Amazing. Not sure what you are smoking..
age of conan has advance graphic but overall visuals look far from next gen. it dont look like DarkSector, Infernal, AssassinsCreed, GoldenAxe, DeadRising, Diablo3, TwoWorlds, NinjaGaiden2, Folklore, BladeandSoul
lorto has next gen landscape enviornment but not character model.
Age of Conan by a country mile for me.
LOTRO is a good game if you like PvE, however I'm not a big fan of questing, or raiding so it wasn't really my cup of tea. The environment graphics are beautiful, but the character models are butt-ugly and kind of goofy-looking. The animations are substandard too and the actual combat leaves a lot to be desired.
AOC, although it was initially beset with problems is now a really good game, for what it is. The graphics, both environment and character models are amazing. The animations are very well done, you actually feel like you are fighting, the fatalities add to the realism here too. The combo system for melee and active shielding and dodging is ten times more fun than the standard MMORPG combat fare. The PvP and sieging are a big attraction for me too. Sieging is now working as it should have at launch and is a great way to spend an evening.
I actually prefer skillbased, sandbox MMORPG's, but until one of the games I am awaiting is released I will be playing AoC. I was a Closed Beta tester for AoC and have played since launch and the game is definately heading in the right direction.
MMORPG History:
Playing - EVE Online.
Played (Retired) - AO, SWG, MxO, WoW, RFO, SoR, CoX, EQ2, GW, L2, Vanguard, LotRO, AoC, TCoS, Aion.
Favourite MMO - Pre-CU SWG, 3 Years, 4 Accounts, 2 Pre-CU Jedi (1 Pre-9).
Awaiting - Star Wars: The Old Republic, The Secret World, Earthrise.
heh?
Okay I love Lord of the Rings and quit AoC a while back, but AoC has amazing graphics. Amazing. Not sure what you are smoking..
age of conan has advance graphic but overall visuals look far from next gen. it dont look like DarkSector, Infernal, AssassinsCreed, GoldenAxe, DeadRising, Diablo3, TwoWorlds, NinjaGaiden2, Folklore, BladeandSoul
And which of those examples are MMOs? Do I hear "none"? Bingo!
You cant have those types of graphics with thousands of players online yet. So by default, AoCs graphics are next gen FOR AN MMO.