Not that it deserves to win but we all know WotLK is going too.
You've been a member of this site for 4 years, and you don't know this entire process is a sham? EVE always wins.
I voted for EQ's SoD. I loved the addition of the mercenary. Too bad, the game is empty. EQ just isn't fun without other people.
The Eve thing was exactly what I was thinking too. No idea if it really deserves it (or any of the accolades) but their player base is so fervent, it's like they are on a Jihad.
WoW is incredibly shallow entertainment. And I heard the last expansion, which is a rip-off of Tolkien's Witch King, IMO, was horribly disappointing. I played it when it was new, did the first XP, and then wished I hadn't. Same Warner Brothers cartoon setting, same shallow lore, same old stuff. To me, WoW is old news.
LOTRO gets my vote for the depth of lore, gorgeous graphics, epic locations, and tons of stuff to do even at max level. Moria is awe inspiring. I can't wait to see what we get in book updates and next year's expansion. I feel so spoiled! You get more bang for your dollar with Turbine, that's for sure.
Really, I think to qualify for voting on this you'd have to play all the MMOs and their corresponding X-pacs; certanly, Eve's X-pac brings the biggest change to the existing game and mught be considered the most important just from that standpoint. I play WoW right now and am enjoying WotLK overall, but it wouldn't surprise me if EQ2's is better. Anyhoo, I obstain from voting because I've played all these games but not the X-pac of any but WoW so feel I'm not qualified.
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall
EVE's Expansion should be compared with any number of LOTRO's FREE expansions/updates over the passed year. Having experienced both Moria and Empyrean, Moria wins hands down. This isn't a knock against EVE really. It's just that CCP has chosen to deliver ONLY free content, and thus the size and scope just can't compete with a paid expansion. I wish CCP would actually get financing to release a paid expansion that improves their game at a pace faster than a moving glacier on Mars.
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Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
Best expansion of the year! Ofc. Wow sold 1.4 milj expansion in 24h, but wow has more then 10milj players!, Just give Lotro 8 months and there will be 6-8milj players on it..
I am surprised to see EQ2 got in the list. Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to suceed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you. TSO is the WORST EQ2 EXPANSION EVER ! Last expansion was solo oriented now it's just FORCED GROUPING. EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
After 4 years of paying SoE, we have closed our 4 accounts. So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Off topic, and for that I will apologise and not continue past this post, but some things people say... sheesh
EQ2 is heavy on solo content. You admit that by stating the last expansion was orientated on solo content, and thats without the older content that has been constantly solofied and amde easier.
This one isnt. This one restores a little balance by being orientated towards groups. That seems right to me. Yet more solo content would have a lot of people leaving for that reason also.
Are you one of those people that throws a tantrum as soon as you don't get want you want?
Are you one of those people that when you leave a game you have to go to every forum and destroy it? Creating new accounts to do so no less? Is it a case that if something dosent suit you then its rubbish? Can you not be objective in the slightest?
Thats just ugly. I'm sorry, but it is.
Nice 1st post
PS. Yep, EQ2 for me here. SOE have really had their expansions sorted for a long time now, and this is another quality one.
Eq2 Shadow odyssey for me. Best expansion I have ever bought. Huge amounts of content with 20 new zones, ranging from the easy to the extremelly tough. 3 weeks of constant play , and I have only managed to see a fraction of the new content. Very nice follow up to the dissapointing RoK.
Best thing about this expansion is that they have taken raid play to group zones. Killing the bosses is not tank and spank anymore, need to figure out scripts, proper groups and equipment, figure out timers , react to what mobs do....the works
Still I will probably try mines of Moria after all this positive feedback here. Played Lorto for month of release and was quite dissapointed. I hope you guys don't make me pay money for nothing.
I am surprised to see EQ2 got in the list. Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to suceed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you. TSO is the WORST EQ2 EXPANSION EVER ! Last expansion was solo oriented now it's just FORCED GROUPING. EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
After 4 years of paying SoE, we have closed our 4 accounts. So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Off topic, and for that I will apologise and not continue past this post, but some things people say... sheesh
EQ2 is heavy on solo content. You admit that by stating the last expansion was orientated on solo content, and thats without the older content that has been constantly solofied and amde easier.
This one isnt. This one restores a little balance by being orientated towards groups. That seems right to me. Yet more solo content would have a lot of people leaving for that reason also.
Are you one of those people that throws a tantrum as soon as you don't get want you want?
Are you one of those people that when you leave a game you have to go to every forum and destroy it? Creating new accounts to do so no less? Is it a case that if something dosent suit you then its rubbish? Can you not be objective in the slightest?
Thats just ugly. I'm sorry, but it is.
Nice 1st post
PS. Yep, EQ2 for me here. SOE have really had their expansions sorted for a long time now, and this is another quality one.
Co-op social gameplay in MMORPGs? Yes please.
You make a lot of assumptions...
But you aren't Nostradamus & you do not know me, so your assumptions aren't all correct.
Firstly, I did not make a new account.
I have subscribed here for about 2-3 YEARS. I just never felt compelled to write here, but I saw this topic & felt I would. I hope we have that sorted now & it falls within the boundaries of being permissible by you.
For your reference, I didn't post that much on the EQ2 forums either, but I read them every day for 4 years.
When I did post it was mostly in regards to small group content.
Why? Because that where my game enjoyment came from.
In point of fact, I could actually post there now, as I paid for 6 months back in July. I won't bother posting there now. I have just given up, as you get tired of banging your head on a brick wall.
I have played EQ2 since launch & have invested a sizeable amount of money in subscriptions & expansions along the way. I was a 'shareholder'.
Am I displeased with the direction of a game I played & loved for 4 years, has seriously compromised my play style? You bet I am...
Did I say the whole game was crap? No I didn't.
I said...
Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to succeed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you.
Once upon a time, EQ2 used to have something for every play style.
They ARE losing some their 'bread & butter money', as Husband & Wife teams ARE leaving.
My husband & I aren't playing anything else & for that matter have not played anything else for 4 years.
We were loyal EQ2 subscribers, who quietly did our own thing.
We never made waves on the forums about balance & classes. We logged in & had 'our' fun.
Mostly doing things that were challenging or fun for us, but would be dull for those who love the thrill of good loot. But it didn't matter to us.
As long as we could find something not-completely-pointless to do, we were happy.
Seriously, it doesn't take much to keep Hubby & Wife teams happy.
But there comes a time when you have to balance out the return (enjoyment/content) with the financial costs. For us it was time to go.. 4 accounts closed. (one still active till it dies)
RoK may have had a lot of solo content, but after that solo quest line was finished, the only thing left to do was grind out endless writs for either tradeskill, faction and Guild status. If you don't full group you will not even get past the doorway of the new zones. Then the forced grouping begins for your characters progression.
TSO has at most a months worth of content for solo'ers & duo'ers. Then you are stuck with writ grinding for the next 11 months.
EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
People will always view their game, from their own experiences. I speak from my own experience.
I will close by re-iterating the following-
So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
It was long ago & far away & it was so much better than it is today....
I can not vote for Turbine till they make a game with good animations. Mine of Moria still bring crap-tastic animations to a plain game that is just a redo of every other game idea.
I am surprised to see EQ2 got in the list. Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to suceed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you. TSO is the WORST EQ2 EXPANSION EVER ! Last expansion was solo oriented now it's just FORCED GROUPING. EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
After 4 years of paying SoE, we have closed our 4 accounts. So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Yes the dungeons are for groups, almost have always been that way for most dungeons, as for the overland i have done every quest there solo, unless they ask you to go into a dungeon, and there was a poll months back that asked the community what new content would be like that they wanted and the majority voted group orientated stuff, so they made the dungeons for grouping and the moors for solo play. If you did not take part in the survey months ago I wouldnt complain, thats like not voting and then bitching about the president.
id have to go with WoW Lotr still doesnt match up though its makes a close second. Only people that say otherwise are just haters or simply don't like wow
Really, I think to qualify for voting on this you'd have to play all the MMOs and their corresponding X-pacs; certanly, Eve's X-pac brings the biggest change to the existing game and mught be considered the most important just from that standpoint. I play WoW right now and am enjoying WotLK overall, but it wouldn't surprise me if EQ2's is better. Anyhoo, I obstain from voting because I've played all these games but not the X-pac of any but WoW so feel I'm not qualified.
I thought this too.
This is not a "best of" competition actually. The only way you could honestly judge that is to PLAY all of the expansions. I have played, like you, all of these games, but...I haven't played all of the expansions.
However...you may as well vote for whatever you are playing NOW, because all the other fanbois will. They won't even take a moment to CONSIDER that they're not qualified to judge expansions that they've not fully played or played at ALL, so....you might as well follow suit.
This entire "Reader's Choice" thing, sadly, is more about which game has the largest fanbase active on MMORPG, than it is about what is truly the "best" in ANY category.
I am surprised to see EQ2 got in the list. Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to suceed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you. TSO is the WORST EQ2 EXPANSION EVER ! Last expansion was solo oriented now it's just FORCED GROUPING. EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
After 4 years of paying SoE, we have closed our 4 accounts. So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Off topic, and for that I will apologise and not continue past this post, but some things people say... sheesh
EQ2 is heavy on solo content. You admit that by stating the last expansion was orientated on solo content, and thats without the older content that has been constantly solofied and amde easier.
This one isnt. This one restores a little balance by being orientated towards groups. That seems right to me. Yet more solo content would have a lot of people leaving for that reason also.
Are you one of those people that throws a tantrum as soon as you don't get want you want?
Are you one of those people that when you leave a game you have to go to every forum and destroy it? Creating new accounts to do so no less? Is it a case that if something dosent suit you then its rubbish? Can you not be objective in the slightest?
Thats just ugly. I'm sorry, but it is.
Nice 1st post
PS. Yep, EQ2 for me here. SOE have really had their expansions sorted for a long time now, and this is another quality one.
Co-op social gameplay in MMORPGs? Yes please.
I'm gonna break my no reply promise here, but, hey, sue me :P
You make a lot of assumptions...
Hrm... ok, I am prepared to acknowledge if I did this. Nps.
But you aren't Nostradamus & you do not know me, so your assumptions aren't all correct.
No, all I know of you is by what you post and the impression you give here.
You may wish to remember that in future.
Firstly, I did not make a new account.
No, I see that. Fair enough.
BUT the first post you made on an old existing account was this?
The point remains valid I feel.
I hope we have that sorted now & it falls within the boundaries of being permissible by you.
I never said I was in a postion, or felt the need, to give 'permission...
This just comes across as you being unduly sarky and nasty.
See what I post above about the impressions you give and the conclusions I draw about you as a person.
For your reference, I didn't post that much on the EQ2 forums either, but I read them every day for 4 years.
ok...
When I did post it was mostly in regards to small group content.
Why? Because that where my game enjoyment came from.
In point of fact, I could actually post there now, as I paid for 6 months back in July. I won't bother posting there now. I have just given up, as you get tired of banging your head on a brick wall.
This is relevant how?
I have played EQ2 since launch & have invested a sizeable amount of money in subscriptions & expansions along the way. I was a 'shareholder'.
lol don't be silly.
Buying a product dosent make you a shareholder. It makes you a customer.
Am I displeased with the direction of a game I played & loved for 4 years, has seriously compromised my play style? You bet I am...
Yep, got that by your tiny tot tantrum here.
Like I said, it was a nice first post...
Listen, I was in beta, and I played from launch, and lets be clear that my choice to play in the style I chose was destroyed in this game to make it solo/duo friendly for you anti-social types. Thats just a fact.
Why do your needs in this game outweigh mine so much?
I love the fact that people are grouping again. Your way of playing just destroyed the original community.
Did I say the whole game was crap? No I didn't.
Didi I say you did?
Boy... your an excitable one eh?
I said...
Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to succeed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you.
Once upon a time, EQ2 used to have something for every play style.
They ARE losing some their 'bread & butter money', as Husband & Wife teams ARE leaving.
Actually, EQ2 USED to be so more group orientated than it has been for a long while now.
I get that you and your spouse are leaving the game, but you will forgive me when I ask for evidence that others are as well? and for the reason you give?
Links are good for me.
Forgive me if I don't take your word for it, but like you say I don't know you, and to be frank, the fact that it has taken you years to post this excitedly on this account, I personally doubt you as an impartial source.
My husband & I aren't playing anything else & for that matter have not played anything else for 4 years.
We were loyal EQ2 subscribers, who quietly did our own thing.
Thats fair enough, of course, but what about my right, as a paying customer, to do my thing?
My thing, btw, is group co-op social play.
This expansion suits me.
It dosent happen to suit you. fair enough. No need to scream and holler about it though. It also dosent make it 'crap' or 'the worst ever!'. It just means it dosent suit you.
I didnt scream when the last one supported soloing eh? I just played it and enjoyed it.
I didnt take it as a personal insult, and I also didnt leave the game in a hissy fit.
We never made waves on the forums about balance & classes. We logged in & had 'our' fun.
Mostly doing things that were challenging or fun for us, but would be dull for those who love the thrill of good loot. But it didn't matter to us.
As long as we could find something not-completely-pointless to do, we were happy.
Thats great....
Seriously, it doesn't take much to keep Hubby & Wife teams happy.
Hah!
I have known some hubby/wife players to be amongst the more hardcore raiders/ PvPers out there. I have also known them to enjoy grouping and meeting other people, both together and alone.
The fact that you don't dosent mean you get to set the agenda for every husband and wife player out there.
But there comes a time when you have to balance out the return (enjoyment/content) with the financial costs. For us it was time to go.. 4 accounts closed. (one still active till it dies)
Thats fine, and thats a free choice of course.
The issue I have is you coming here and on your first post throwing such a public fit about it, calling the expansion 'the worst ever!' and such.
It obviosuly isnt, it just didnt suit you.
Tbh, if you quit over this, you prolly needed a break from the game anyhow?
RoK may have had a lot of solo content, but after that solo quest line was finished, the only thing left to do was grind out endless writs for either tradeskill, faction and Guild status. If you don't full group you will not even get past the doorway of the new zones. Then the forced grouping begins for your characters progression.
I know this is a little bit of a push, but...
Why not just group and meet new people..?
Are you now guilded? Is there not 3 other peeps within that guild that you would enjoy teaming up with? Surely after 4 years you have made some friends that you like?
TSO has at most a months worth of content for solo'ers & duo'ers. Then you are stuck with writ grinding for the next 11 months.
Surely this deoends on how often you play and for how long?
every MMORPG has this issue, or similar?
EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
As before, evidence please.
People will always view their game, from their own experiences. I speak from my own experience.
Yet you make outright statements as if they were fact...
I will close by re-iterating the following-
So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Lol, I would LOVE to log in and find a full group all the time...
id have to go with WoW Lotr still doesnt match up though its makes a close second. Only people that say otherwise are just haters or simply don't like wow
So the LotRO playerbase are all "haters" or don't like WoW? Call me a fanboi, but having played under all the other companies in the list, Turbine is by far better in the industry with what they have done in the short amount of time they have done it. Mines of Moria is just a testiment to that fact. WoW's WotLK is not only a complete (lore-wise) ripoff of LotRO, but does not have the graphical or lore rich immersion of MoM.
I can not vote for Turbine till they make a game with good animations. Mine of Moria still bring crap-tastic animations to a plain game that is just a redo of every other game idea.
Have you even played LotRO? Or did you just check out a youtube video to base your opinion on?
And they didn't even mention the phasing in WotLK. Hmm.. I have never thought like this before, seems fishy.
If it wasn't mentioned in the blurb about it in the article, it wasn't mentioned on the expansion promotional webpage, but I'm glad to see you've got the conspiracy helmet on.
Just because you don't agree with our choices doesn't mean there's "something fishy".
If you read my post closely you discover that I do not critic your choice, WotLK is there, but what I found worth noticing is that you had left out phasing, one of main new features of the expansion in the presentation.
Whether the conspiracy helmet was meant as a tool for making conspiracy theories or meant as a protection against those kind of theories I'm not sure. Anyhow I think talking about conspiracy theories is to make this issue little too serious, seems more like an inclination, I guess.
Pretty straight forward.... 2.8 million copies in 24 hours. I don't play WoW, but it seems no other game can match it's overpowering MMO force... PS: In case no one noticed, EQ2's expansion actually charted #5 on NPD sales during the week of it's release ...this has never happened for EQ2...yet LOTRO did not even hit the top 50..so, if I had a second vote, it would be EQ2 for showing it still has the power to attract players after a dismal launch and 4 years running.
The fact that it sold well doesn't mean its a good game by any stretch. The expansion is actually quite sub par compared to Burning Crusade, which was already bottom of the barrel. For a team with hundreds of developers, proportionally, the expansions are abysmal.
id have to go with WoW Lotr still doesnt match up though its makes a close second. Only people that say otherwise are just haters or simply don't like wow
Your wrong there buddy.
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You've been a member of this site for 4 years, and you don't know this entire process is a sham? EVE always wins.
I voted for EQ's SoD. I loved the addition of the mercenary. Too bad, the game is empty. EQ just isn't fun without other people.
You've been a member of this site for 4 years, and you don't know this entire process is a sham? EVE always wins.
I voted for EQ's SoD. I loved the addition of the mercenary. Too bad, the game is empty. EQ just isn't fun without other people.
The Eve thing was exactly what I was thinking too. No idea if it really deserves it (or any of the accolades) but their player base is so fervent, it's like they are on a Jihad.
Edit: Oh, and Moria for me too!
WoW is incredibly shallow entertainment. And I heard the last expansion, which is a rip-off of Tolkien's Witch King, IMO, was horribly disappointing. I played it when it was new, did the first XP, and then wished I hadn't. Same Warner Brothers cartoon setting, same shallow lore, same old stuff. To me, WoW is old news.
LOTRO gets my vote for the depth of lore, gorgeous graphics, epic locations, and tons of stuff to do even at max level. Moria is awe inspiring. I can't wait to see what we get in book updates and next year's expansion. I feel so spoiled! You get more bang for your dollar with Turbine, that's for sure.
Couldn't have said it better myself !
The lord of The Rings Online: Mines Of Moria FTW!!!!!!!!!! 
Really, I think to qualify for voting on this you'd have to play all the MMOs and their corresponding X-pacs; certanly, Eve's X-pac brings the biggest change to the existing game and mught be considered the most important just from that standpoint. I play WoW right now and am enjoying WotLK overall, but it wouldn't surprise me if EQ2's is better. Anyhoo, I obstain from voting because I've played all these games but not the X-pac of any but WoW so feel I'm not qualified.
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall
EVE's Expansion should be compared with any number of LOTRO's FREE expansions/updates over the passed year. Having experienced both Moria and Empyrean, Moria wins hands down. This isn't a knock against EVE really. It's just that CCP has chosen to deliver ONLY free content, and thus the size and scope just can't compete with a paid expansion. I wish CCP would actually get financing to release a paid expansion that improves their game at a pace faster than a moving glacier on Mars.
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Mines of Moria here as well. Best expansion of the year, no competition.
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I voted eq2 shadow odyssey, i am enjoying it a lot.
playing eq2 and two worlds
I am surprised to see EQ2 got in the list.
Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to suceed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you.
TSO is the WORST EQ2 EXPANSION EVER !
Last expansion was solo oriented now it's just FORCED GROUPING.
EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
After 4 years of paying SoE, we have closed our 4 accounts.
So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Mines of Moria !
Best expansion of the year! Ofc. Wow sold 1.4 milj expansion in 24h, but wow has more then 10milj players!, Just give Lotro 8 months and there will be 6-8milj players on it..
Cheers!
Off topic, and for that I will apologise and not continue past this post, but some things people say... sheesh
EQ2 is heavy on solo content. You admit that by stating the last expansion was orientated on solo content, and thats without the older content that has been constantly solofied and amde easier.
This one isnt. This one restores a little balance by being orientated towards groups. That seems right to me. Yet more solo content would have a lot of people leaving for that reason also.
Are you one of those people that throws a tantrum as soon as you don't get want you want?
Are you one of those people that when you leave a game you have to go to every forum and destroy it? Creating new accounts to do so no less? Is it a case that if something dosent suit you then its rubbish? Can you not be objective in the slightest?
Thats just ugly. I'm sorry, but it is.
Nice 1st post
PS. Yep, EQ2 for me here. SOE have really had their expansions sorted for a long time now, and this is another quality one.
Co-op social gameplay in MMORPGs? Yes please.
Eq2 Shadow odyssey for me. Best expansion I have ever bought. Huge amounts of content with 20 new zones, ranging from the easy to the extremelly tough. 3 weeks of constant play , and I have only managed to see a fraction of the new content. Very nice follow up to the dissapointing RoK.
Best thing about this expansion is that they have taken raid play to group zones. Killing the bosses is not tank and spank anymore, need to figure out scripts, proper groups and equipment, figure out timers , react to what mobs do....the works
Still I will probably try mines of Moria after all this positive feedback here. Played Lorto for month of release and was quite dissapointed. I hope you guys don't make me pay money for nothing.
Off topic, and for that I will apologise and not continue past this post, but some things people say... sheesh
EQ2 is heavy on solo content. You admit that by stating the last expansion was orientated on solo content, and thats without the older content that has been constantly solofied and amde easier.
This one isnt. This one restores a little balance by being orientated towards groups. That seems right to me. Yet more solo content would have a lot of people leaving for that reason also.
Are you one of those people that throws a tantrum as soon as you don't get want you want?
Are you one of those people that when you leave a game you have to go to every forum and destroy it? Creating new accounts to do so no less? Is it a case that if something dosent suit you then its rubbish? Can you not be objective in the slightest?
Thats just ugly. I'm sorry, but it is.
Nice 1st post
PS. Yep, EQ2 for me here. SOE have really had their expansions sorted for a long time now, and this is another quality one.
Co-op social gameplay in MMORPGs? Yes please.
You make a lot of assumptions...
But you aren't Nostradamus & you do not know me, so your assumptions aren't all correct.
Firstly, I did not make a new account.
I have subscribed here for about 2-3 YEARS. I just never felt compelled to write here, but I saw this topic & felt I would. I hope we have that sorted now & it falls within the boundaries of being permissible by you.
For your reference, I didn't post that much on the EQ2 forums either, but I read them every day for 4 years.
When I did post it was mostly in regards to small group content.
Why? Because that where my game enjoyment came from.
In point of fact, I could actually post there now, as I paid for 6 months back in July. I won't bother posting there now. I have just given up, as you get tired of banging your head on a brick wall.
I have played EQ2 since launch & have invested a sizeable amount of money in subscriptions & expansions along the way. I was a 'shareholder'.
Am I displeased with the direction of a game I played & loved for 4 years, has seriously compromised my play style? You bet I am...
Did I say the whole game was crap? No I didn't.
I said...
Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to succeed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you.
Once upon a time, EQ2 used to have something for every play style.
They ARE losing some their 'bread & butter money', as Husband & Wife teams ARE leaving.
My husband & I aren't playing anything else & for that matter have not played anything else for 4 years.
We were loyal EQ2 subscribers, who quietly did our own thing.
We never made waves on the forums about balance & classes. We logged in & had 'our' fun.
Mostly doing things that were challenging or fun for us, but would be dull for those who love the thrill of good loot. But it didn't matter to us.
As long as we could find something not-completely-pointless to do, we were happy.
Seriously, it doesn't take much to keep Hubby & Wife teams happy.
But there comes a time when you have to balance out the return (enjoyment/content) with the financial costs. For us it was time to go.. 4 accounts closed. (one still active till it dies)
RoK may have had a lot of solo content, but after that solo quest line was finished, the only thing left to do was grind out endless writs for either tradeskill, faction and Guild status. If you don't full group you will not even get past the doorway of the new zones. Then the forced grouping begins for your characters progression.
TSO has at most a months worth of content for solo'ers & duo'ers. Then you are stuck with writ grinding for the next 11 months.
EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
People will always view their game, from their own experiences. I speak from my own experience.
I will close by re-iterating the following-
So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
It was long ago & far away & it was so much better than it is today....
Moria wins this easily, Turbine are Masters of there craft in both Enviroment and Lore immersion,they are 2nd to none in this respect.
I can not vote for Turbine till they make a game with good animations. Mine of Moria still bring crap-tastic animations to a plain game that is just a redo of every other game idea.
Yes the dungeons are for groups, almost have always been that way for most dungeons, as for the overland i have done every quest there solo, unless they ask you to go into a dungeon, and there was a poll months back that asked the community what new content would be like that they wanted and the majority voted group orientated stuff, so they made the dungeons for grouping and the moors for solo play. If you did not take part in the survey months ago I wouldnt complain, thats like not voting and then bitching about the president.
playing eq2 and two worlds
id have to go with WoW Lotr still doesnt match up though its makes a close second. Only people that say otherwise are just haters or simply don't like wow
I thought this too.
This is not a "best of" competition actually. The only way you could honestly judge that is to PLAY all of the expansions. I have played, like you, all of these games, but...I haven't played all of the expansions.
However...you may as well vote for whatever you are playing NOW, because all the other fanbois will. They won't even take a moment to CONSIDER that they're not qualified to judge expansions that they've not fully played or played at ALL, so....you might as well follow suit.
This entire "Reader's Choice" thing, sadly, is more about which game has the largest fanbase active on MMORPG, than it is about what is truly the "best" in ANY category.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
Off topic, and for that I will apologise and not continue past this post, but some things people say... sheesh
EQ2 is heavy on solo content. You admit that by stating the last expansion was orientated on solo content, and thats without the older content that has been constantly solofied and amde easier.
This one isnt. This one restores a little balance by being orientated towards groups. That seems right to me. Yet more solo content would have a lot of people leaving for that reason also.
Are you one of those people that throws a tantrum as soon as you don't get want you want?
Are you one of those people that when you leave a game you have to go to every forum and destroy it? Creating new accounts to do so no less? Is it a case that if something dosent suit you then its rubbish? Can you not be objective in the slightest?
Thats just ugly. I'm sorry, but it is.
Nice 1st post
PS. Yep, EQ2 for me here. SOE have really had their expansions sorted for a long time now, and this is another quality one.
Co-op social gameplay in MMORPGs? Yes please.
I'm gonna break my no reply promise here, but, hey, sue me :P
You make a lot of assumptions...
Hrm... ok, I am prepared to acknowledge if I did this. Nps.
But you aren't Nostradamus & you do not know me, so your assumptions aren't all correct.
No, all I know of you is by what you post and the impression you give here.
You may wish to remember that in future.
Firstly, I did not make a new account.
No, I see that. Fair enough.
BUT the first post you made on an old existing account was this?
The point remains valid I feel.
I hope we have that sorted now & it falls within the boundaries of being permissible by you.
I never said I was in a postion, or felt the need, to give 'permission...
This just comes across as you being unduly sarky and nasty.
See what I post above about the impressions you give and the conclusions I draw about you as a person.
For your reference, I didn't post that much on the EQ2 forums either, but I read them every day for 4 years.
ok...
When I did post it was mostly in regards to small group content.
Why? Because that where my game enjoyment came from.
In point of fact, I could actually post there now, as I paid for 6 months back in July. I won't bother posting there now. I have just given up, as you get tired of banging your head on a brick wall.
This is relevant how?
I have played EQ2 since launch & have invested a sizeable amount of money in subscriptions & expansions along the way. I was a 'shareholder'.
lol don't be silly.
Buying a product dosent make you a shareholder. It makes you a customer.
Am I displeased with the direction of a game I played & loved for 4 years, has seriously compromised my play style? You bet I am...
Yep, got that by your tiny tot tantrum here.
Like I said, it was a nice first post...
Listen, I was in beta, and I played from launch, and lets be clear that my choice to play in the style I chose was destroyed in this game to make it solo/duo friendly for you anti-social types. Thats just a fact.
Why do your needs in this game outweigh mine so much?
I love the fact that people are grouping again. Your way of playing just destroyed the original community.
Did I say the whole game was crap? No I didn't.
Didi I say you did?
Boy... your an excitable one eh?
I said...
Unless you want to be forced to FULL GROUP with the CORRECT CLASSES to succeed & have any fun, EQ2 has nothing for you.
Once upon a time, EQ2 used to have something for every play style.
They ARE losing some their 'bread & butter money', as Husband & Wife teams ARE leaving.
Actually, EQ2 USED to be so more group orientated than it has been for a long while now.
I get that you and your spouse are leaving the game, but you will forgive me when I ask for evidence that others are as well? and for the reason you give?
Links are good for me.
Forgive me if I don't take your word for it, but like you say I don't know you, and to be frank, the fact that it has taken you years to post this excitedly on this account, I personally doubt you as an impartial source.
My husband & I aren't playing anything else & for that matter have not played anything else for 4 years.
We were loyal EQ2 subscribers, who quietly did our own thing.
Thats fair enough, of course, but what about my right, as a paying customer, to do my thing?
My thing, btw, is group co-op social play.
This expansion suits me.
It dosent happen to suit you. fair enough. No need to scream and holler about it though. It also dosent make it 'crap' or 'the worst ever!'. It just means it dosent suit you.
I didnt scream when the last one supported soloing eh? I just played it and enjoyed it.
I didnt take it as a personal insult, and I also didnt leave the game in a hissy fit.
We never made waves on the forums about balance & classes. We logged in & had 'our' fun.
Mostly doing things that were challenging or fun for us, but would be dull for those who love the thrill of good loot. But it didn't matter to us.
As long as we could find something not-completely-pointless to do, we were happy.
Thats great....
Seriously, it doesn't take much to keep Hubby & Wife teams happy.
Hah!
I have known some hubby/wife players to be amongst the more hardcore raiders/ PvPers out there. I have also known them to enjoy grouping and meeting other people, both together and alone.
The fact that you don't dosent mean you get to set the agenda for every husband and wife player out there.
But there comes a time when you have to balance out the return (enjoyment/content) with the financial costs. For us it was time to go.. 4 accounts closed. (one still active till it dies)
Thats fine, and thats a free choice of course.
The issue I have is you coming here and on your first post throwing such a public fit about it, calling the expansion 'the worst ever!' and such.
It obviosuly isnt, it just didnt suit you.
Tbh, if you quit over this, you prolly needed a break from the game anyhow?
RoK may have had a lot of solo content, but after that solo quest line was finished, the only thing left to do was grind out endless writs for either tradeskill, faction and Guild status. If you don't full group you will not even get past the doorway of the new zones. Then the forced grouping begins for your characters progression.
I know this is a little bit of a push, but...
Why not just group and meet new people..?
Are you now guilded? Is there not 3 other peeps within that guild that you would enjoy teaming up with? Surely after 4 years you have made some friends that you like?
TSO has at most a months worth of content for solo'ers & duo'ers. Then you are stuck with writ grinding for the next 11 months.
Surely this deoends on how often you play and for how long?
every MMORPG has this issue, or similar?
EQ2 needs to find a balance as solo'ers, duo'ers, trio'ers are starting to cancel their accounts.
As before, evidence please.
People will always view their game, from their own experiences. I speak from my own experience.
Yet you make outright statements as if they were fact...
I will close by re-iterating the following-
So if you want to log in & find a full group all the time, EQ2 is the perfect game for you.
Lol, I would LOVE to log in and find a full group all the time...
Mines of Moria. Brilliant addition to the game.
So the LotRO playerbase are all "haters" or don't like WoW?
Call me a fanboi, but having played under all the other companies in the list, Turbine is by far better in the industry with what they have done in the short amount of time they have done it. Mines of Moria is just a testiment to that fact. WoW's WotLK is not only a complete (lore-wise) ripoff of LotRO, but does not have the graphical or lore rich immersion of MoM.
Have you even played LotRO? Or did you just check out a youtube video to base your opinion on?
If it wasn't mentioned in the blurb about it in the article, it wasn't mentioned on the expansion promotional webpage, but I'm glad to see you've got the conspiracy helmet on.
Just because you don't agree with our choices doesn't mean there's "something fishy".
If you read my post closely you discover that I do not critic your choice, WotLK is there, but what I found worth noticing is that you had left out phasing, one of main new features of the expansion in the presentation.
Whether the conspiracy helmet was meant as a tool for making conspiracy theories or meant as a protection against those kind of theories I'm not sure. Anyhow I think talking about conspiracy theories is to make this issue little too serious, seems more like an inclination, I guess.
The fact that it sold well doesn't mean its a good game by any stretch. The expansion is actually quite sub par compared to Burning Crusade, which was already bottom of the barrel. For a team with hundreds of developers, proportionally, the expansions are abysmal.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Your wrong there buddy.
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