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Warhammer online > a big failure in Europe
tetammoth
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after playing in Europe for 10 weeks and trying hard to like this game i came to the conclusion that Warhammer Online is an Epic failure of no comparison.
My characters > 35 Runepriest , 27 Archmage , 14 White Lion , L16 Engineer, L27 Disciple, L26 Squig herder and some L1-11. I was in 3 guilds all three are shrunk to the Guildleader and their 2-3 best friends or dissapeared.
Listed gamebreaking problems for me.
* 99% of all servers are low/low even at peak times
* Scenarios are the only way to PvP
* no oRvR happening and if then its dominated by one faction per server. Dissapointing for the other site if they loose all time.
* Class imbalance is extrem. PvE example > my Squig Herder is L26, since 1.0.6 he can chain kill Level 33 Mobs in Squig Armor withtout problems. 7 levels diff .. other classes cant touch +7 levels. PvP examples are enough on all the forums.
*Lenght of PvP fights often under 5 sec. 6000HP gone without beeing able to defend.
* Disabled, Stun, Knockback etc spam after Tier 3
* almost no more Healers are healing , healing gets no reward so the most Healers heal themself and DPS for XP.
* PvE is boring and dissapointing, the rewards are often useless to the classes.
*Dungeons are broken and imbalanced
*Community on the servers i play is WoW "Barrens Chat" quality.
*Ex-DAOC players dissapeared and the Ex-WoW junkies remained.
*Itemisation is laughable, stats are mostly useless and Armor looks the same from Level 10 to 40.
*Crashes to Desktop and Memory leaks all time.
*GM support non-existant, you never see one.
*Auction House Filter broken since beta.
*Scenario Solo playing OPed classes like Bright Wizard and Sorceror that leech most xp they get from other players work. Soloing should not be possible in Scenarios... but who cares.
*Scenarios are still always the same 4 > Nordenwatch > Mourkain > Tor Anroc > Serpents passage. You can join what you what you only get these 4 usually. Mythic did nothing so far to get players into the other 19 scenarios.
*rewards for Renown Ranks have nothing to do with the classes often. Why does a Squig herder need Willpower ?
*the game is a Beta 0.9 game currently
*the Rating here 8.54 is a leftover from all the Fanbois 10 weeks ago. Its more like 7.0
The not happening oRvR is the main reason i am dissapointed. The second reason is the poor quality of Scenarios PUG players.
p.s You cant have my stuff and i wont let the door hit me on my way out.. (thats for those milkfaces that still think those comments are cool)
Comments
Tier 4 is where the action is at
Get to tier 4, the classes are very well balanced and the open RVR is amazing with huge fights every night for hours
Both on Burlok (which isn't a high pop server) and KEP (which is) - those are the two servers I play on.
and the rest is mostly wrong:
- Dungeons are working pretty well, and they're challenging, rewarding and fun (esp Lost Vale)
- There IS ctd issues, I get them myself, once every 2 hours of playing or so
- bright wizards and sorcerors got rebalanced in the last patch, they are much more toned down (which has led to much better balance in tier 4 so far)
- the itemisation is getting fixed in 1.1, making all that renown and pve gear appropriate to each class (no more willpower yay!)
It's like you were playing the game 3 weeks ago, and only just decided to make a post, get online and ask people in tier 4 how the action is
Sigh ... more troll posts.
It isn't. I play Burlok (destro) and Axe bite (order). Destro guild has about 70 in it, plenty of players about, pleny of oRvR and scenarios at T1, T2 and T3 (can't comment about T4 too many alts).
The only time I get hit with large damage and go down quickly is when I'm doing something stupid; and most of my toons are heals, so I'm always their favourite target.
Sometimes knock back is a pain, but then having been used to mez, stun, stun, stun, trust me root and knock back is hardly worth complaining about
Disagree with pretty much everything the OP says. Though I suggest you roll on a populated server to get the best experience (no, 99%, or anywhere close to that are most certainly NOT Low/Low). Obviously just logging into the game and looking at the server list during peak easily disproves your claim. I'm guessing you're not actually playing the game and are simply trying to "make it seem bad" for unknown reasons. It seems you have collected a bundle of popular myths and mixed them with issues some people are having. If you were actually playing the game, you'd have been complaining over actual issues rather than the myths.
if you would read before you answer....
i was in Tier 4 since L31 with my RP.. long enough... its a Welf/BW Tier
i am on Karag Eight Peaks and Burlok ....both once were High/High..
now med/med at best times once per week.
the rest of all European servers is low/low as you can see on the server page right ? why do you try to make the situation better than it is ?
if someone loves all the flaws and problems in the game thats fine for him.
new players should get a warning before they jump into Warhammer and end up with huge dissapointment.
and
49 Euro for the game is alot for some people.
When you say tier 4 is just a WE/BW tier well when I look at the statues all i see is Witch hunters, and Warrior Priests with one or two BWs. Maybe on your server its different but thats the point, the servers you play on are underpopulated (get a server transfer) the servers I play on are well populated and yes memory leaks, crashes, and that crazy application failed crap are a piss take but I do disagree about population.
This is not a game.
Dont talk bs, its 13h00 and KEP is at med-med.
You can't even troll properly. How sad!
The failure of WAR is the PVE design. RVR is a nice idea but the game is currently suffering cause of it in terms of graphical quality cause Mythic is tuning everything down to be able to run a game in oRVR. But... after all the reason why oRVR is failing is cause the orginal design of battlekeeps is huge failure.
Now... the most important part - is the big failure in EUROPE. Thats what the OP gets totally right. EU is suffering big time cause of GOA and their total lack of professional work and stable servers. I simply gave up on trying to play the game cause of lag. And no... I was not even trying to take part regularly in oRVR cause that was just a lag fest in Europe.
Yes war has floped badly in Europe and i'am not sure it'll be able to recover now because most of the people I know and have talked to have been pretty negitive about their experience with the game.
From everything I have read about GOA, I am not the least bit surprised. I am not sure how EA/Mythic can be at the results. WAR is a good game, to fumble Europe away due to some joke of a company they chose to use (GOA) is to put it politley, disturbing to me. Sometimes you have to pay big time for your stupid decisions.
Yeah, exactly! The OP just isn't playing the game right.
Four easy steps to success in WAR!
1. Try a different server
2. Play between hours 8 & 10pm
3. Join a larger guild
4. Stick it out till tier 4
Because it's obvious if you aren't having fun then you're not playing the game correctly.
Transfer you character to a med server...smart ass
Go and do some Open RvR instead of waiting until you see a keep being attacked. Also if you don't want to play the game, QUIT FFS!!! Stop wasting you time and money if you don't like the game. A person who's slightly above retarded would definitely tell you to just quit if you don't like the game.
Purpose in life is not to gain things, but experience. - Rover64dd
Yeah, exactly! The OP just isn't playing the game right.
Four easy steps to success in WAR!
1. Try a different server
2. Play between hours 8 & 10pm
3. Join a larger guild
4. Stick it out till tier 4
Because it's obvious if you aren't having fun then you're not playing the game correctly.
lol, kinda rude to say a person is not playing the game correctly because they do not find it fun.. I have played it and I did not find it fun, yes I did Tier 4..... The game for me has no real purpose, its just like a fps you log on in multi player, I kill you, you kill me and so on...
People like it yea but its not for all so MAYBE other people look for more than what you have listed..... no point in adding Oh but yea it does have a purpose, As SOME will say it does not.. like me
Played them all for years...
Remember.. An opinion is not LAW.. its just a feeling of one person
Steps for correctly playing WAR.
1. Find a way to get a NA copy of the game.
2. Play on NA servers
3. Under no circumstances play on the servers of the laughing stock of the world known as GOA.
er....I mean...um...well..nope, that's all I got.
agreed with OP. however, you are overreacting. war is not that bad. the most frustration is because of lowlow servers. after rerolling, my gaming experience improved drastically.
but its still not that great game. both pvp and pve need improving. bad graphics and bugs/crashes also dont help. balance issues hurt like hell and scenarios kill pvp for me.
i would recomend this game only to warhammer world fans and wow players. after my prepaid ends i will play AoC or DF
Playing: Rohan
Played (from best to worst): Shadowbane, Guild Wars, Shayia, Age of Conan, Warhammer, Runes of Magic, Rappelz, Archlord, Knight online, King of Kings, Kal online, Last chaos
The OP must have some kind of right since the game is a lot more popular in the US than EU.
Since there is only one big difference between the 2, the reason must be: GOA.
WAR is a game the really needs many player, the more the funnier it get's so if people quit because GOA are incompetent that is very bad for the game.
Solution: Fire GOAs butt and buy up some company in EU cheap that own a serverpark. With the current economy it should be easy enough to find a small serverpark that is enough for Mythics need for peanuts money.
I do not know what Mythic thought when they hired in that bunch of #¤%& in the first place but they mess up everything they do.
I don't understand that one either. GOA made a huge mess with DAOC..their servers were getting hacked all the time, they were late with patches, laggy, server crashes, horrible customer service, etc.
And then they hired them again....they must have been locked into some ridiculous contract or something.
Either that or were dropping hits of acid during DAOC and really thought GOA did good some how.
I can't tell you how many entire guilds of EU players came to US servers to escape GOA in DAOC.
On lancelot, by the time TOA expansion came out, it was like a US server in the primetime...and an EU server dominated by italian guilds in the late hours....which was cool, cause there was always people to play (even though you usually couldn't actually speak with them...unless you spoke italian.)
We had lots of germans too, for some reason. They played the early morning hours...
the fact is they do not even NEED to hire another company!
Who do you think is caring for Ultima Online in Europe?Mythic themselves! (through EA of course)
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
the fact is they do not even NEED to hire another company!
Who do you think is caring for Ultima Online in Europe?Mythic themselves! (through EA of course)
I didn't know that Mythic made Ultima Online.
Lets rewrite history some more and call it 1984.
Sums it up perfectly for me. I played 3 weeks only and I didn't bother logging in the last week. 4 of my other mates here bought the game at the same time and all stopped playing before 4 weeks, mostly for the above reason. Even though I had issues with the overall mechanics and scenarios being the only way to PvP and most of the time I felt like I was playing in slow motion, I would have resubscribed for at least one more month if the population was there. I could not believe the amount of hype, advertising, publishing this game had yet the population felt like Vanguard after 6 months. I would log on at different times of the day and during the weekend and I spent the entire time running around in an empty world. If I saw another player outside scenarios it was a shock. I gave up because if the population is that dead after 3 weeks then the game has a very limited life span. I foresee WAR being in a worst condition than Vanguard based on what I saw.
For those that are in 70 player guilds how many are active? I have been in guilds that have 100-150 players but then only 5-10 are active. The argument that tier 4 is where the fun is, is just lame. So I need to play this game through boring PvE, crappy graphics, lame crafting and all the shite bugs just to have a chance at fun? The biggest issue this game faces is that it has no point! I wanted WAR to be a game like EVE where each side had massive wars to regain territory etc. WAR is set up like a one way street, you get to the end and you just have a different map. If PvP was fun then you could say that this model may work but its not a great FPS or great PvP game so with the lack of real world combat the game is in limbo.
My opinion but one that is shared by all of my gaming friends, right now I know of one person playing in Australia and he is trying to keep the guild together. I think WAR has died in the EU but probably more successful in Australia and the US. Just a guess.
What game are you playing? I got to tier 4 and the game was tolerable up until precisely that point, then you realize how small everything is, that there is still no ORvR going on, that the RvR system is borked, and that people just farm keeps for loot and grind scenarios all day. If anything tier 4 will make him more depressed.
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Yeah, exactly! The OP just isn't playing the game right.
Four easy steps to success in WAR!
1. Try a different server
2. Play between hours 8 & 10pm
3. Join a larger guild
4. Stick it out till tier 4
Because it's obvious if you aren't having fun then you're not playing the game correctly.
lol, kinda rude to say a person is not playing the game correctly because they do not find it fun.. I have played it and I did not find it fun, yes I did Tier 4..... The game for me has no real purpose, its just like a fps you log on in multi player, I kill you, you kill me and so on...
People like it yea but its not for all so MAYBE other people look for more than what you have listed..... no point in adding Oh but yea it does have a purpose, As SOME will say it does not.. like me
Played them all for years...
Remember.. An opinion is not LAW.. its just a feeling of one person
I was being sarcastic
Im curiouse to know about something i see a lot in this forums, Whats the problem in europe with GOA? What do they do to hurt War so bad? not flaming, im just curious
Mythic took over UO after they were bought by EA.
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