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Mythic the new Funcom?
StinkyPits
Member Posts: 123
Let me first start by saying that I've generally enjoyed WAR, but I'm highly disappointed in the crap that Mythic is starting to pull to hide their mistakes (similar to Funcom). In the WarhammerAlliance forums, any negative topic is now being shutdown and any excuse in the book is being used. People can't say things like "The Public Quest contribution system is broken" without the thread getting locked. You'll typically get a reply like "you aren't a developer and you don't know how hard it is to create a perfect game". WTF? I thought these guys wanted feedback to help IMPROVE the game, not to pull a Funcom and bury it to appear like all is well. This is the kind of crap that makes me want to go elsewhere. I like WAR, but not too happy with Mythic.
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the Alliance forum is a pure POSITIVE area. if you just have one little negative opinion there you get banned or suspended.
Warhammer failed, i havent seen any high/high server in ages.
The Alliance Forum is a place for lovely and loyal Sheeps called Fanbois that agree with every bug , error, crash or imbalance they get.
The people there love to be treaten like milkcows and mythic enjoys it. the last few videos were you see Mythic developers creaming each other with pie prooves that.
It also prooves that mythic seems to be a bunch of 40 year old children.
i cant imagine that these guys will ever get WH out of the swamps again..
Load of Rubbish people post negative things all the time..but if you post Flaming Bags of dog poo threads you do get removed. They don't tolerate flaming of any sort. If you can't voice your negativity without alot of flaming bags of poo then they pretty much don't want you there.
threads similiar to your "example" of removed posts which are active without any forum moderation rampaging
On The hate for Ironbreaker Punting
Pve Getting Better Loot
Making Meaningful RvR should of been easy
alright enough evidence given that your full of fail OP.
Yup, you need to go elsewhere.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Warhammer Alliance is NOT an official forum
WHA has nothing to do with Mythic
There are already posts about the contribution system in that forum that arent locked. Most people are satisfied with using the existing threads to talk about it.
The problem is that one thread talking about a problem isn't enough for a troll. They want the entire forum filled with nothing but the same troll threads, like mmorpg.com. Their agenda is not to fix problems by bringing them to peoples attention, but to cause them by making people think the problems are bigger than they are. Their goal is to drive people away from the game by misrepresenting it.
Well sorry buster but not going to happen.
But thats all irrelevent - as someone above said, WHA is not managed by Mythic so they can hardly take blame. They are managed by gamers that take a stronger stance against trolling than mmorpg does. OP I guess just doesn't fit into the constructive poster mold that they want on their site, I guess. Too bad.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
EXCELLENT post!
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Warhammer is a great game, sorry you don't enjoy it and troll it......
No Mythic has no official forums. They hide behind vviral marketing techniques everywhere.
Mythic passed on forums out of fear for trolling techniques like Greyhooff demontrates every day on the Wow forums.
The only thing that counts is the game. People like Greyhoof think you can push games by viral marketing. Apparently it doesn't work.
Mythic never HAD official forums.. even for DAoC.
One of their reasons has always been the cost and manpower it takes to maintain official forums. I'd rather see any company keep as many dollars and hands on maintaining/developing the game instead of babysitting.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
this. mythic has official forums in the works so wait and judge then.
I wouldn't claim Mythic is perfect, but comparing it to Funcom?!? They're not 1/10th as bad.
Both failures.. Warhammer being the lesser of the failures
I love reading Zorndorf troll the hatred. Sorry Funcom failed for flat out lying to everyone somethign that was apparent to anyone with a few brain cells activitly working. Mythic never lied to anyone. Did they over hype? Sure but who doesn't these days. Did they make some miscalculations of what the servers would run like with people other than testers? Hell yes. Testers were guided through the game so they could make sure things worked and got to know how the game was intended to be played. A huge mistake yes but a lie? A scam? A scham that needed to be covered up like Funcom?? No.
Sorry No one other than Sony has a lower reputation than Funcom. Funcom lied and lied and lied. They ruined their own game by basically epeening themselves to death. They should of been working on their game and pushed back its release date since they HAD the funs to do so instead of jerking each other off and proclaiming the greatest game on earth.
Mythic atleast communicates activitly with its community and has acknowledged some of the design decisions or short comings. THey also from day one stated they were NOT after WoW's throne that niggling pesky hype mechanic was started by over zealous fanbois and haters making up crap.
I see negative thread everyday on WHA forum, not sure what you are talking about...
Me think you take your dream for reality. Well in real life, mister, that forum is one of the best place to get info on the game. Plus, mythic IS actually doing an official forum. Get some help next time, you need some trolling lesson from TheHavoc.
WoW is going to go into freefall quite soon, once people get bored at 80, which will take only a couple of weeks
After that, Warhammer will dominate as the only mass-market MMO with some challenge and proper rewards for skilled PVPers
WoW had its time, it's now just an old, boring game with nothing new and a skill curve made for noobs and housewives - and it will be over soon
In any case, the thread was about Warhammer Alliance Forums - which is a fan forum, and nothing to do with Mythic. It's like blaming Mythic for the moderation on MMORPG.com or something
Having posted on WHA for some time now, I've yet to see the mods close any thread with constructive and valid criticism of either Mythic, GOA or WAR itself. They've closed a lot of useless garbage posts, though, which is the only reason WHA still has any point to it. I'm really glad Mythic is making official forums so all the useless crap will be going there in the future, leaving the remaining WHA members to focus on actually interesting stuff. Since the game was released, there's been a constant stream of newcomers constantly spamming the forums with pure garbage and nonsense, a true excercise in idiocy. In short it's slowly turning into the World of WarCraft forums, and my hope is that the official WAR forums will be adopting this interesting trait, leaving WHA closer to what it was before OB and launch.
I don't think Mythic is anywhere close to Funcom in the area of screw ups. We're into an era of perfection. If the game isn't 100% perfect, the game and the company get slagged all over the internet. Give the game time, it will be just like LotRO in regards to fiery opinions. Once bigger games come out and people turn their attentions to the next big thing, they'll relax. You never know, though.
Side note, on X-fire WAR is down to 13,000 hours while AoC is still around 4000. As expected WAR was around 45000 at launch but then so was AoC. With a huge amount of big titles coming out in 2009 not to mention DF, Earthrise and Jumpgate along with Spellborn I can seriously see WAR ending up around 4000 alongside AoC. So to the OP you are probably not far off.
mythic are honest and up front about their mistakes...funcom just flat out lie..is bar room brawling in age of conan yet? see what i mean.
most of those mmo's are indy titles, they may be great games but wont get huge subscriptions. war will get better as time goes on. spellborn has already failed in europe so i would count that one out. darkfall is bound to fail, everything with that amount of hype does, not to mention the shady development process for that game. earthrise and jumpgate will not be out next year.
Yeah, maybe someday WOW will have to close down 60% of their servers like Warhammer. But no time soon... last week they launched another round of new servers to keep queues to a minimum. WOW has apparently been dying for 4 years, but someone forgot to tell the players who keep buying the game.
Take a look at any top sales chart. There are about 4 different versions of WOW, including the very original game that is ranked higher than Warhammer in new box sales.
WOW hasn't even peaked yet
Yeah, maybe someday WOW will have to close down 60% of their servers like Warhammer. But no time soon... last week they launched another round of new servers to keep queues to a minimum. WOW has apparently been dying for 4 years, but someone forgot to tell the players who keep buying the game.
Take a look at any top sales chart. There are about 4 different versions of WOW, including the very original game that is ranked higher than Warhammer in new box sales.
WOW hasn't even peaked yet
Warhammer will never dominate the market because the game does not have the foundation or mechanics to be a truly great game or market leader. Its far to linear and that was the biggest killer for me. People get bored when a game doesn't have true open world or enough side activities to get involved in like player housing etc. IMO WAR is just a fad that will hold people's interest until something truly worth hanging on to comes along. DF or whatever, who knows.
My how the OP invites some choice words.
Funcom = incompetent, decievers
Mythic = clueless, uncaring
Both have products that are not finished enough to be marketed...and may never be
I don't think you guys are really looking at the bigger picture here. WAR is hardly the first MMO to have a buggy/broken end-game. Take the insanely successful WoW, for example. The later zones were extremely low on content, and it was quite clear Blizzard ran out of time and rushed th game out before finishing those areas. WoW's end-game, Molten Core, was so broken it was practically impossible to finish. As far as MMOs go, WAR is in pretty good shape, actually.
Both with WoW and WAR you could/can still do things surrounding the end-game, just not the climax of it. In WoW you could still do the normal dungeons, and in WAR you can do normal dungeons/oRvR/scenarios. Unfortunately due to massive numbers of players at fortress sieges, the climax of the end-game often can't be reached, and like with Molten Core, this needs to be fixed.
If you can't wait for that to happen, no problem - you're free to unsubscribe. Nothing is binding you to play. You are free to wait, play something else, and come back once it's fixed. The truth is, the game's released with an astounding amount of content and what for an MMO passes as a reasonably good state in terms of bugs and such. Seriously, you people are acting as if WAR is the only MMO that's had problems of this kind at launch, while in reality most MMOs have had it much worse, current Lord of MMOs included.