Darkfall will FAIL

GiveMePvP · December 2008

I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times.

I have all these questions:

Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.

Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?

Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?

Why is NDA still in affect?

Why haven't they talked about a trial?

Why is there no information about Open Beta?

etc.

There are just too many unanswered questions.

Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing..

Darkfall will FAIL.

Elsabolts · December 2008

If it is really bad the cat will be let out of the bag fairly soon.

URMAKER · December 2008

yea i remember reading about vanguard and dnl before they were released....man they sounded awesome.

raizzeen · December 2008

the reason i can think of for not showing is cause its either chunky unstable stale kinda feeling and theyr afraid people will go ZOMG OMFG ITS A BUG IN CLOSED BETA OMFG I WONT BUY THIS GAME like most people say these days

Isamu8597 · December 2008

If there isn't any info about Closed Beta I'm sure it's normal to hear nothing close when it comes to Open Beta/Full Release. I still have to agree with you, but I'm hoping you'll be wrong about what will become of Darkfall.

Trashcantoy · December 2008

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times.
I have all these questions:
Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.

Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?

Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?

Why is NDA still in affect?

Why haven't they talked about a trial?

Why is there no information about Open Beta?

etc.
There are just too many unanswered questions.
Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing..
Darkfall will FAIL.

u will prolly be labelled as a "troll" but for the DF fans: this OP is just referring to the history, with dnl, vanguard but prolly aoc as best example of it cause the lvl 20+ content never was in open beta and turned out out to be shallow and buggy

its healthy skepticism and too many times ppl on this forum have been labelled a troll just cause they are being realistic. DFs history is long with various beta announcements and vids, u have to understand some ppl take everything of DF with a grain of salt

edit: i only disagree with the title of this topic DF has the chance to change this pattern

Trashcantoy · December 2008

Originally posted by Thoric485

1. Imagine i make a thread called "Darkfall will BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST" in which i state as valid arguments some shit we've discussed here a thousand times.

okay, give me some VALID arguments that it will be 'the second coming of christ'...

...hmmkay ill be nice, give some VALID arguments that it will be an awesome game (and remember: good ideas dont make a good game, its all about executing the ideas in the right way)

imbant · December 2008

Originally posted by URMAKER

it's like 47 shades of brown. you know what else is brown? yea its exactly what anyone who thinks this game will ever come out is full of.

I guess the vast majority of the MMO community are full of it then

Glad to see you around the DF forums again URMAKER

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737 (post 142)

Xris375 · December 2008

When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...

Thoric485 · December 2008

Originally posted by 3on1

Originally posted by Thoric485

1. Imagine i make a thread called "Darkfall will BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST" in which i state as valid arguments some shit we've discussed here a thousand times.

okay, give me some VALID arguments that it will be 'the second coming of christ'...

...hmmkay ill be nice, give some VALID arguments that it will be an awesome game (and remember: good ideas dont make a good game, its all about executing the ideas in the right way)

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Zebras too.

Trashcantoy · December 2008

Originally posted by Thoric485

Originally posted by 3on1

Originally posted by Thoric485

1. Imagine i make a thread called "Darkfall will BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST" in which i state as valid arguments some shit we've discussed here a thousand times.

okay, give me some VALID arguments that it will be 'the second coming of christ'...

...hmmkay ill be nice, give some VALID arguments that it will be an awesome game (and remember: good ideas dont make a good game, its all about executing the ideas in the right way)

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Zebras too.

isnt it nice being so nitpicky.. u know i was being sarcastic or not? anyway.. i know what u are trying to say, now im asking for the arguments.

Hotjazz · December 2008

Darkfall have FFA full-loot PvP, and even if most things in DF fails we still have the PvP part. We know there is goblin mobs, so we can get new gear.

These two things makes DF for me better than all the other mmo`s out there.

aleos · December 2008

A few more threads like this and i might start believing

GiveMePvP · December 2008

Originally posted by Hotjazz

Darkfall have FFA full-loot PvP, and even if most things in DF fails we still have the PvP part. We know there is goblin mobs, so we can get new gear.

These two things makes DF for me better than all the other mmo`s out there.

We know almost nothing about the gameplay. Only empty words and promises. I really like what I've heard about DF but until I can try it for myself, all these promises mean absolutely nothing to me. Remember AoC?

For all we know DF gameplay could be the worst gameplay in the history of computer gaming.

And by the way.. those goblins are so damn smart they will zerg you and take YOUR stuff so no new gear for you, sorry.

kcc9889 · December 2008

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times.
I have all these questions:
Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.

Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?

Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?

Why is NDA still in affect?

Why haven't they talked about a trial?

Why is there no information about Open Beta?

etc.
There are just too many unanswered questions.
Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing..
Darkfall will FAIL.

You are ignroant lol. We know tons about gameplay, it is FPS combat, waht more do you need to know? There is collision detection, no click'n'cast, and it is a really good game.

You sound like a vaporware troll who is mad that the game is actually coming out.

GiveMePvP · December 2008

Originally posted by kcc9889

You are ignroant lol. We know tons about gameplay, it is FPS combat, waht more do you need to know? There is collision detection, no click'n'cast, and it is a really good game.
You sound like a vaporware troll who is mad that the game is actually coming out.

Ok, now I'm convinced. I didn't know this kind of detailed information about gameplay even existed. Thanks.

It truly does seem like Darkfall is a really good game. And like you said, waht more do I need to know?

Sorry for being an ignorant vaporware troll.

DarthRaiden · December 2008

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

Originally posted by kcc9889

You are ignroant lol. We know tons about gameplay, it is FPS combat, waht more do you need to know? There is collision detection, no click'n'cast, and it is a really good game.
You sound like a vaporware troll who is mad that the game is actually coming out.

Ok, now I'm convinced. I didn't know this kind of detailed information about gameplay even existed. Thanks.

It truly does seem like Darkfall is a really good game. And like you said, waht more do I need to know?

Sorry for being an ignorant vaporware troll.

some feeling says to me, you not being honest...lets check my prediction and i will trek your future posts..

GrayGhost79 · December 2008

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times.
I have all these questions:
Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.
They have. ADW, the 2 Mods from MMORPG Italia, the 17 minute game footage

Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?
It's closed beta with an NDA in place lol

Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?
lol your asking why more aren't breaking the NDA, thats just rich. I hope others mature a bit and quit doing that with other beta's. Respecting agreements you make seems to be an odd concept with some people, which in itself says a lot about them.

Why is NDA still in affect?
Because Avenmturine chooses it to be

Why haven't they talked about a trial?

I have been wondering that myself. Hard for people to try the game before buying like they said they wanted without a free trial of some sort. Unless they are planning on Open beta being the free trial.

Why is there no information about Open Beta?

They haven't given us any besides the finished by early december info.
etc.
ect.
There are just too many unanswered questions.
Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing..
Darkfall will FAIL.

So that leaves what? 1 unanswerd question.

You I am afraid have failed.

Teganx · December 2008

Because the bigger they come the harder they fall.

If the devs dont start tooting their own horns like every other developer then we cant be mad at them when we dont like the game. It would be too easy for players to find reasons to bash the game.

Everybody saying why dont they do this or that like every other MMO. Well since UO and EQ days what MMO has been a sucess other than WoW? None really. And every other MMO was hyped and commercialized up the ass and they failed. I cant help but think that if games like AoC and WAR didnt use trailers and ads to make their games look so much cooler than they actually were then they wouldve done a little better.

Also people seem to be lumping this release with all of the major ones. Its not one of the mainstream releases (war, aoc, wow, eq2) . It is simply an indie developer putting out an honest independed MMO on their on terms for the first time ever. They arent trying to compete. Just let it come out and then judge it.

popinjay · December 2008

I guess the vast majority of the MMO community are full of it then
Glad to see you around the DF forums again URMAKER
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737 (post 142)

That was pretty funny lol

Rastical · December 2008

Originally posted by Elsabolts

If it is really bad the cat will be let out of the bag fairly soon.

The cats already been let out of the bag IMO.. and it's carrying a sign with Failure written all over it.

Silkskin · December 2008

Okay, what do you want to know about the game that isn't some extreme detailed unnessesary thing, that hasn't already been told yet? They've released assloads of information, and i've seen a few beta leaked screen shots and videos that were taken down. I have no idea why you're claiming there is NO beta leaks, when you hardly can see everything going around the internet at once. Try looking for some and you'd be surprised.

also, I'm not going to claim darkfall is going to be a huge sucess, but the feature list is good, everything I've heard from the people who've tested it is good. And I see no reason to assume it's going to fail.

So only time can tell. Dont quit your day job, the psychic buisness isn't right for you.

edit: go click on the games on the most hyped list under darkfall, see how much info you get out of them in comparison.

Silkskin · December 2008

vaportrolls used to yell, this game is too good to be true, must never be comming out - it announces a release date and suddenly it's not good at all?

Crashloop · December 2008

Originally posted by Xris375

When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...

The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.

Silkskin · December 2008

Originally posted by Crashloop

Originally posted by Xris375

When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...

The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.

Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.

Crashloop · December 2008

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times.
I have all these questions:
Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.
Can it be that they are scared to pull the same stunt Funcom did with hyping the game? Or can it be because they actually have nothing to show that is worth showing yet? no matter the reasons if you want a game to be successfull you have to advertise it, you have to let people know that there is coming a MMO so unique that they would want to try it out.
Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?
Good question, I applied to the closed beta myself but haven't heard anything from them in mail form, actually not recieved onbe mail from them after registering and stuff like that. It might be that they have never sent out any information, but ti gives me personally a bad feeling that things isn't as it should in the world of Darkfall. Most developers are eager to show off what they have so people can see what awaits them

Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?
This is the most interesting question you raise imo. All games I have seen earlier have had beta leaks. Sure there is some of darkfall on youtube, and you have the beta comments they posted from their testers on their forums. The funny thing is that the comments are almost all 100% positive about everything, And if all the betatesters are super positive about the game why do no the developers release more info or show off the game to the rest of the MMO market. It can be ofc that the beta testers are 100% fanbois/girls, but that would be the biggest and most retarded thing in any MMO's history. In a beta you want people to be critics, you want them to tell you that thinsg isn't perfect. If everything is perfect either you have done everything right or you have the wrong test group. Most likely the last part.

Why is NDA still in affect?
NDA might be lifted once they go open beta, if that ever happens. Again if everyone who plays it loves the game why not lift the NDA so the rest of the community can see what awaits us?

Why haven't they talked about a trial?
I would assume trial accounts isn't normally the first thibg you can get, they have the inital box sale first as that generates money, most MMO's I have seen have offered a trial, but usually after the initial sales are over.

Why is there no information about Open Beta?

etc.
Maybe they want to keep things secret until they surprise the community with open beta, or maybe they have no clue when they will be able to push out the open beta. Time will show, but the silence from the devs of Darkfall, doesn't really raise people's faith in the game.
There are just too many unanswered questions.
Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing..
Darkfall will FAIL.
I won't say the game will fail just yet, the game might very well succeed, but the silence does have a huge sign of failure waving on top of it. The warning signs for the game to be vaporware or a huge failure is here, and the longer they keep silent about it the more people likely will draw the conclusion themself. Funcom talked too much about how fantastic the game was and that hyped people up to insane amounts, Darkfall has the other approach, the silence alone will make people sceptical to if this game actually can deliver. and that might be a good thing if they release the game and it has like half the content they promised I guess a lot of the fans will be much more forgiving then they were with AoC.

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