When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC) On my radar: TSW, MO MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
yeah just when somethings rumoured to be not real, when they start offering preorders and selling t-shirts people will rip it apart. Digital download btw for all NA, so no boxes for them.
When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
yeah just when somethings rumoured to be not real, when they start offering preorders and selling t-shirts people will rip it apart. Digital download btw for all NA, so no boxes for them.
Trolls will rip it apart no matter what, they don't care about facts all they want to do is rip the game/company they hate in pieces. I assume we will see many more games coming as digital download in the future rather then boxed. I bought my Warhammer pre order as digital download. So pre orders doesn't have to be a box it can be a digital download too. With no real information from when people can start buying the game or pre orders it just gives the trolls more excuses to rip the game apart as vaporware, then again trolls will be trolls no matter what.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC) On my radar: TSW, MO MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
When in doubt, follow the money. If someone is willing to let me try out their products for free, I trust but verify nonetheless. So far there aren't possible to preorder this game. To me that means the devs ahve faith in their game...
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
yeah just when somethings rumoured to be not real, when they start offering preorders and selling t-shirts people will rip it apart. Digital download btw for all NA, so no boxes for them.
Trolls will rip it apart no matter what, they don't care about facts all they want to do is rip the game/company they hate in pieces. I assume we will see many more games coming as digital download in the future rather then boxed. I bought my Warhammer pre order as digital download. So pre orders doesn't have to be a box it can be a digital download too. With no real information from when people can start buying the game or pre orders it just gives the trolls more excuses to rip the game apart as vaporware, then again trolls will be trolls no matter what.
was more pointing out how he's being hypocritical. and that i'm sure people would bitch about it even if there was a pre order
vaportrolls used to yell, this game is too good to be true, must never be comming out - it announces a release date and suddenly it's not good at all?
They're right. It isn't coming out. At least not the way everyone thought it would be based on the total crap they've been releasing the last few weeks from those previews.
yea i remember reading about vanguard and dnl before they were released....man they sounded awesome.
This comparison is ridicolous.
Totally different development teams says it all.
You cant compare different developers with each other.
And if you say you can then explain to us how that it's a reliable way way to compare different games with each other? Cause i cant see any similarity with the games mentioned.
Darkfall have FFA full-loot PvP, and even if most things in DF fails we still have the PvP part. We know there is goblin mobs, so we can get new gear.
These two things makes DF for me better than all the other mmo`s out there.
We know almost nothing about the gameplay. Only empty words and promises. I really like what I've heard about DF but until I can try it for myself, all these promises mean absolutely nothing to me. Remember AoC?
For all we know DF gameplay could be the worst gameplay in the history of computer gaming.
And by the way.. those goblins are so damn smart they will zerg you and take YOUR stuff so no new gear for you, sorry.
Since you seem to know nothing about the game then answer me why it will fail?
If you know nothing then it's like a empty paper and wether it will fail or not is written in the stars.
To make an assumption of failure on these loose grounds is having a preassumed negative opinion on the game as i see it.
I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times. Actually the opposite seems to be true. The bigger the advertisement campaign the worse the game. Look at the recent MMO releases. Most great games appear out of nowhere and take the market by storm. I have all these questions: Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it Well they don't have the finance, manpower, time. If they press takes interest, thats a different matter. They state their situation concerning the press here.
Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta? I think you answered your own question.
Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY? Probably because they avoided recruiting douche bag testers. By the way, there are beta leaks, only the cool people know about them.
Why is NDA still in affect? The same reason you put your pants on, one leg at a time.
Why haven't they talked about a trial? Release date is Jan 22. Trial is 2-3 weeks before that. Sowe can safely assume that the trial starts early Jan.
Why is there no information about Open Beta?
etc. Aventurine see the Open Beta as a trial for players. So the answer is the same as the one above. There are just too many unanswered questions. Depends if you look for them or not. Visit the official website. Go to the news section, check out the forums and you shall find what you seek young padawan. Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing.. Darkfall will FAIL. Ok
I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times. I have all these questions: Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.
Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?
Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?
Why is NDA still in affect?
Why haven't they talked about a trial?
Why is there no information about Open Beta?
etc. There are just too many unanswered questions. Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing.. Darkfall will FAIL.
I don't like secrecy around MMO launches. EVERY TIME devs refuse to talk about some aspect of a game they do it because the game SUCKS. I've seen this thousand times. I have all these questions: Why are they not showing their awesome game to the press? I mean REALLY show it.
Why isn't there more information about Closed Beta?
Why are there no credible beta leaks like in EVERY OTHER MMO BETA IN HISTORY?
Why is NDA still in affect?
Why haven't they talked about a trial?
Why is there no information about Open Beta?
etc. There are just too many unanswered questions. Now I REALLY , honestly want DF to be an awesome game. I really do. It's just that in my oppinion all this secrecy means only one thing.. Darkfall will FAIL.
Your just a troll and hater now go back to your themepark game:P
You fail not Darkfall!!!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
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The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
and why exactly should a game have pre-orders which dont sell game boxes? Oo
Darkfall will be digital download.. noone has to pre-order.
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
yeah just when somethings rumoured to be not real, when they start offering preorders and selling t-shirts people will rip it apart. Digital download btw for all NA, so no boxes for them.
i think, they dont give much information cause it change nothing..
when they give information - people predict fail cause of the informations.
when they dont give informations - people predict fail cause there are no informations.
i think theire way is good. they just make a game, and dont talk much about it.. when its out everyone can see how good it is.
the beta leak thing is the only good question imho. But maybe there are just really few testers.. dont know..
200 testers I think, last announced - maybe a little more by now.
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
yeah just when somethings rumoured to be not real, when they start offering preorders and selling t-shirts people will rip it apart. Digital download btw for all NA, so no boxes for them.
Trolls will rip it apart no matter what, they don't care about facts all they want to do is rip the game/company they hate in pieces. I assume we will see many more games coming as digital download in the future rather then boxed. I bought my Warhammer pre order as digital download. So pre orders doesn't have to be a box it can be a digital download too. With no real information from when people can start buying the game or pre orders it just gives the trolls more excuses to rip the game apart as vaporware, then again trolls will be trolls no matter what.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
Why bother making a post like this one ... why do I even bother answering to it?
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
The fact the game isn't even able to prorder tells me there is no way it will be released in January, unless they plan to sell the game from their website as digital download only. As you say it also shows a disturbing lack of faith in your own product, or at best complete ignorance when it comes to how a game should be launched.
Asking for money before* someone can see your product? if they did that trolls would scream fucking rip off scam artists. It was already published in a newspaper its going to be digitally downloadable everywhere , and available boxed in europe.
Pre orders are not a scam, because you can buy the box, and then return it to the store if you haven't opened it. Every mayor MMO developer have pre orders, Blizzard has it, Funcom has it, EA Mythic has it. The good thing with pre orders is that it shows the general interest in the product, and also make sit easier for the company to plan the production of boxes.
yeah just when somethings rumoured to be not real, when they start offering preorders and selling t-shirts people will rip it apart. Digital download btw for all NA, so no boxes for them.
Trolls will rip it apart no matter what, they don't care about facts all they want to do is rip the game/company they hate in pieces. I assume we will see many more games coming as digital download in the future rather then boxed. I bought my Warhammer pre order as digital download. So pre orders doesn't have to be a box it can be a digital download too. With no real information from when people can start buying the game or pre orders it just gives the trolls more excuses to rip the game apart as vaporware, then again trolls will be trolls no matter what.
was more pointing out how he's being hypocritical. and that i'm sure people would bitch about it even if there was a pre order
They're right. It isn't coming out. At least not the way everyone thought it would be based on the total crap they've been releasing the last few weeks from those previews.
NOBODY would bitch if the pre order gave you instant access to the game to play and test out before you cancel or keep the pre order.
That's common practice. for any game. I did it for Lord of Of the rings online before I bought it. I placed my pre order than tested out the game.
Darkfall will FAIL?
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This comparison is ridicolous.
Totally different development teams says it all.
You cant compare different developers with each other.
And if you say you can then explain to us how that it's a reliable way way to compare different games with each other? Cause i cant see any similarity with the games mentioned.
Too me this is just a troll attempt.
We know almost nothing about the gameplay. Only empty words and promises. I really like what I've heard about DF but until I can try it for myself, all these promises mean absolutely nothing to me. Remember AoC?
For all we know DF gameplay could be the worst gameplay in the history of computer gaming.
And by the way.. those goblins are so damn smart they will zerg you and take YOUR stuff so no new gear for you, sorry.
Since you seem to know nothing about the game then answer me why it will fail?
If you know nothing then it's like a empty paper and wether it will fail or not is written in the stars.
To make an assumption of failure on these loose grounds is having a preassumed negative opinion on the game as i see it.
You base your failure assumption on nothing.
And it make you look like a troll.
Watch Led Zeppelin, Darkfall Tribute
Watch Johnny Cash, Darkfall Tribute
Your just a troll and hater now go back to your themepark game:P
You fail not Darkfall!!!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Define Fail?
If Darkfall has 50k subscribers after 6 months it's a success. Darkfall is a niche game.