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This game is broken and beyond repair..
Kris.Kringle
Member Posts: 40
The population balance on almost all servers now is pathetic.
Destruction are just running amok, and nobody really gives a toss anymore. Anytime you try and get involved in ORvR the client doesn't allow you to do it, because the engine is archaic and they obviously have no clue how to fix it because Mythic are stumbling from one 'fix' to another that just doesn't cut the mustard.
Classes such as WE's have ruined the game for many, and the latest DPS increase across the board has caused the healers to leave in their droves.
Mythic, what are you thinking? Do you think this game is fun for Order? If you do you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
I play on the most populated EU server and we are outnumbered by 3-1 at least. Every other toon is a WE now - why? Because they are most OP class I have ever seen in an MMO and you actually BUFFED them in the last class patch. You people are insane or stupid - probably both.
The client that runs this game is pathetic. You advertised 'massive' PvP battles. What is 'massive' to you? 12v12 in a Scenario? Check the posts on the fan sites regarding the latest 1.1 patch - nothing has changed with characters being attacked by invisibles, and others are constantly appearing and disappearing. You have fixed nothing, and this shows that you have zero clue as to what the problem is. You are just stumbling around in the dark trying to fix performance and all you are doing, is breaking everything else into the bargain.
I have given this game every chance, and subbed for 3 months. My patience is at the end of its tether now. I can't take my WP or SW anywhere without being raped by a WE that has to press 4 buttons and run around me in circles. They have stealth, they have snaring throw daggers, they have disable, they have armour rend, they have silence, they have movement debuffs. They can even restealth during combat. There is no escape from them. This game is constantly being touted as not a 1v1, but a 'team' game, and is balanced accordingly. For WE's the game IS a 1v1 party, and they are dipping their bread. Both of my toons are now retired - there is no fun in the game for them.
AoC was an unmitigated disaster for many different reasons, but to me, this game has equalled it in terms of disappointment. My options seem to be roll a WE or cancel my account. I think I'll choose the latter.
Congratulation Mythic, you have managed to pluck defeat out of the jaws of victory. The game won't recover from these issues. RIP.
Kris.Kringle@greenland.com
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hi
It's fairly obvious you're a terrible player and have no coordinated team tactics and no plan to win. Witch elves (and witch hunters) can be given a very hard time by a competent team that positions itself correctly, their ambushes are very counterable as are white lion / marauder pulling, rift/magnet and various other abilities.
But yes, it requires skill that you just don't have yet. Play an easier game to get the hang of hotkeys and strategy before playing an adult PVP game
Also, order can do just fine, so it's not the faction, it's just you
(below is a post from a server in the US I think, and which I know nothing about apart from that order pwns destro there)
Author Topic: Order of Badlands pushes 3 zones in one night
Wolve4429
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Date Posted: 12/10 10:34am Subject: Order of Badlands pushes 3 zones in one night
Not trying to brag or chest thump here, but wanted to show it can be done by Order. It is not about who outnumbers who here. Teamwork and dedication goes a long way. The battles lasted over 6 hours non stop spilling over from zone to zone, involving all tiers last night. T2 and T3 were as vital as T4. No one person stood out and all worked hard to accomplish what many thought could not be done against superior numbers.
I hope other servers take note and try to fight Destro instead of just complaining of pop imbalance happy
Good hunting to all!
I'd say they could fix it, seeing as you just gave them a good list to get started on. I don't sub either though. I thought the game was in most cases a zerg fest.
Advice to you is to turn with them so they can't get behind you and avoid your armor.
Also your playing a healer and ranged DPS class, you are not a tank. Why are you complaining that the WE is killing your classes when they are specifically designed to kill your classes??
I play with the tank classes and LOL whenever a WE is stupid enough to go toe-to-toe with me (especially with KOTBS). Know what your class is supposed to do, up till now you probably though thte WP was a tank and it isn't. WE do burst damage and do it well, learn to counter it and play with a team. You will always lose to a competent WE that gets close enough, get used to it, they're designed to kill you.
Kris,
You should be thinking about delivering all those toys in the next couple of weeks and not playing games!
Hopefully, the Mrs. will put a manual or something in your stocking..... better yet, maybe she'll find another game for you to play.
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JonMichael
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Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
My server is normally med/med or high/high.So its balanced.As for WE, they are a killer to the cloth wearing classes and some light.I have a SW and spec in assault.So when i get jumped i go to assault stance and go toe to toe.Most time they go down.You just got too figure stratigy.If a chosen gets on me im done.That does not make that class overpowered.Im not ment to stand there with a chosen and take them on.Just have to now your strengths because we all no our weaknesses.Good luck and dont give up.
The OP is right, game sucks even more as time goes on...
As for WE, they have a certain spec that ignores armor almost %100, they were killing my tank like in 5 secs, melee dps killing a tank in 5 secs....and yes i am prot specced and have a shield...
anyways i quit last month and spending my money on different games, MMO genre is dead for me.
A WE killing any tank in 5 secs or at all is pretty bad. My IB laughed at them, when they tried to take me on 1 on 1. IMO the game is coming along nicely and i ll be re subbing soon.
The feeling of depression is deep on this thread. I dont believe the game is broken, it's functional, if just.
And beyond repair? I believe Mythic can make great improvements to this game. Not everyone can like the changes but you must at least admit they dedicate and put lots of effort into TRYING to improve the game alot.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
The skill that ignored 100% armor got nerfed to ignore 50%. PLus its positional attacks that kill you - if they get flank/rear attack it ignores armor. So turn to face.
Of course if there are two you cant.
The game sucked... there is no skill involved in pointing and clicking
Interesting, I will say this.
Now to say you don't lke a game is one thing. But to state it failing, not going to recover, your the one on that cloud. Now please, go back to w/e game you DID enjoy and play there, cause obviously you didn't cut it here, like many of us have.
Don't get me wrong everyone, some of his points are valid (structure of heavy end raids) but his tunnel vision is clouding his judgement on the success of this game, sad really. This game is good, its stable now as far as played base. Can only really go up from here with the excellent patches there tossing out.
See you in game destro, prepare to die hahahaha
Enjoy : )
wow another little boy with 2 1/2 posts coming here to tell us lies about the game we play. Again, nice try boy.
Dont make me laugh. Skill in WAR? This is something new.
I'm not supporting WoW here, but i have to say that WoW needs more skill than War even though WoW is very gear dependent.
War is an Adult pvp game? LOL. Its fairly obvious you know nothing about pvp.
Dont make me laugh. Skill in WAR? This is something new.
I'm not supporting WoW here, but i have to say that WoW needs more skill than War even though WoW is very gear dependent.
War is an Adult pvp game? LOL. Its fairly obvious you know nothing about pvp.
and what do you know about pvp ? I'm just wondering since it is sooo obvious to you that other people know nothing about it. So please, I am listening, we are listening... write up a nice little article for us about what you know about pvp...dont be scared...
Seriously Greyhooff, sometimes I wonder about you matey. In one week you can start a thread with this title: "KOTBS is absurdly overpowered, tanks with 2 handers that deal insane damage" and then say:
And then you jump all over this fellow's post saying:
Hmm. In your case, the class is overpowered. In his case, hes a 'terrible player'. In his case, he's not good at the hotkeys in an 'adult PVP game' and in your case, its the KoTBS' fault?
Amazing. Simply... Amazing.
Could we please have some sane fans chime in here? Or at least more doublespeak to post ^^
"TO MICHAEL!"
Dont make me laugh. Skill in WAR? This is something new.
I'm not supporting WoW here, but i have to say that WoW needs more skill than War even though WoW is very gear dependent.
War is an Adult pvp game? LOL. Its fairly obvious you know nothing about pvp.
I agree, to say adult is kinda out there. But to say no skill is involved? Most games require a class to spam only 4-5 diffrent skills. Very few are diffrent. WoW is not one of them.
You don't have to know how to PvP to PvP, you only have to know how to PvP to be good. Its fairly obvious to me you are short sighted if you hink WAR's 4-5 button mashing is diffrent from other games 4-5 button mashing. Some attacks are positional, some are not. Just like other games.
The only diffrence in REALITY betwen PvP in WAR and WoW are the classes and skills, not the actual skill of moving and hotbar/clicking.
Thank you.
Enjoy : )
then there is no skill in any videogame. are you actually serious? trolling like this? every game you will ever play there will be pointing and clicking
Kris, It is your server that is like that because today it was the complete opposite on Phoenix Throne. While today on the server I was in a Warband guess how many Order Warbands we fought at once today?
A total of two and a half Order Warbands to our one for hours today, we held them off only with skill and probably got more influence from them trying to zerg every point in each zone (I managed oto get two purple items). I say come on over to Phoenix Throne and join the guild I am in as we need someone to head up the 3rd shifters.
I do think your right in one aspect though, while the ORvR was popping today have to think about this, what else did it mess up in the game (PvE, scenario dungeon crawling)? We will figure it out in about a week, I think though the heavier populated faction will end up suffering in the end though as there will always be objectives and such to take for Destruction on my server due to the zerg meisters.
And then you jump all over this fellow's post saying:
Hmm. In your case, the class is overpowered. In his case, hes a 'terrible player'. In his case, he's not good at the hotkeys in an 'adult PVP game' and in your case, its the KoTBS' fault?
Amazing. Simply... Amazing.
Could we please have some sane fans chime in here? Or at least more doublespeak to post ^^
Grey likes trolling these forums for giggles so make sure to take anything he says in a lighthearted kinda way and see the funny side on his posts
get a few warbands together and take a friggin keep. Like I do atleast twice a day on my server.
Thank you OP for coming and making a new account to voice your opinion instead of using your regular one. Now please leave cos we busy having fun.
PS You might want to try the new WoW exp. it's probably more up your alley
/barrelroll
Never play an EA game, they screw it up every time, every game they make.
yes yes they make a lot of games and had some some good ideas.
You look at EA and the games they make and they don't last long cuz EA needs a new money fix. EA is pure business and the ppl running EA do not feel passionate about games being made and how they can last a long time even if it means not making money. EA is all about the money and when the money is not there they shoot out a new game an xpac or a better version that just goes to waste.
In short WH is a good idea but it wont last long seeing the money is leaving this game faster then the french off a battlefield.
I do not think the game is broken beyond repair. That being said, I believe the game may be beyond repopulation. They are doing wonders to try and salvage the game, and I give them credit for that. But one has to wonder how many people would be willing to revisit the game in a few months when there are more games on the market like Darkfall and Aion. In the case of Aion, it will have the benefit of being ironed out before it gets here since it came out in Korea first. In the case of Darkfall, the game is directly targeted at people who like PvP, something Warhammer Online has been fumbling a lot with.
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/agree with Windkun
Probably not the time to nerf in a business sense.
People will leave in droves if WEs are nerfed.
Nerfing makes people mad.
If WAR were healthier, they could nerf WEs.