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How healthy is Vanguard ?

What do you think is happening to the VG subscriber base ?

- stable

-growing

-decling

 

How would you  describe the playerbase who plays the game ?

-a key reason to play the game

-like any other mmog..not better ,not worse

- young,immature jerks

-filled with high level players who could care less about a newbie

-welcoming for new players

 

Thanks

 

Comments

  • RumourRumour Member Posts: 114

    I just resubbed to VG... the population is on the low end with alot of high levels or people on the trial isle. Its not easy to find a good group in the 20's. The game itself is spectacular. The player base is pretty mature and loyal to the game. I myself am almost about to start my own guild on saradon because I want some people to play with.

  • HricaHrica Member UncommonPosts: 1,129

    Healthy?

    www.stormhavenguild.com

    I would not call VG healthy but this guild is heathy and still very active on Seradon server

  • o2jplo2jpl Member Posts: 32

    I decided to try out the game and to my surprise there was plenty of activity on Seradon server. Seemed everyone was giving the game a lot of  credit for fixing the bugs that were present on release. I played the game until lvl 9 before getting bored and annoyed by the game.

    Two simple reasons turned me away: game was choppy from start, i do have an op comp and honestly im not going to look for a reason to try to fix the problem, 2nd reason being is that its wow clone with a depth crafting system and diplomacy system which both seem stagnant.

    Overall, the game is a good. It just was not my piece of pie.

     

     

  • WindKunWindKun Member Posts: 45

    I'm a co-leader of Stormhaven vanguard evne though I am active in WAR at the moment. I may re-sub just to help them along.

  • VidirVidir Member UncommonPosts: 963
    Originally posted by o2jpl


    I decided to try out the game and to my surprise there was plenty of activity on Seradon server. Seemed everyone was giving the game a lot of  credit for fixing the bugs that were present on release. I played the game until lvl 9 before getting bored and annoyed by the game.
    Two simple reasons turned me away: game was choppy from start, i do have an op comp and honestly im not going to look for a reason to try to fix the problem, 2nd reason being is that its wow clone with a depth crafting system and diplomacy system which both seem stagnant.
    Overall, the game is a good. It just was not my piece of pie.
     


     



     

    You call it a wow clone, well this game is not a slightly like wow and there are no wow clones since wow itself is a clone of other games.

  • boojiboyboojiboy Member UncommonPosts: 1,553
    Originally posted by Arawon


    What do you think is happening to the VG subscriber base ?
    - stable
    -growing
    -decling
     
    How would you  describe the playerbase who plays the game ?
    -a key reason to play the game
    -like any other mmog..not better ,not worse
    - young,immature jerks
    -filled with high level players who could care less about a newbie
    -welcoming for new players
     
    Thanks
     



     

    Healthy and growing.  I like the community, a lot of casual gamers, husband/wife teams, average age of folks I've met seems to be in the mid-30s.  So it's a good community for me.  Sure, there are some idiots running around, but mostly good folks.

  • o2jplo2jpl Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by Vidir

    Originally posted by o2jpl


    I decided to try out the game and to my surprise there was plenty of activity on Seradon server. Seemed everyone was giving the game a lot of  credit for fixing the bugs that were present on release. I played the game until lvl 9 before getting bored and annoyed by the game.
    Two simple reasons turned me away: game was choppy from start, i do have an op comp and honestly im not going to look for a reason to try to fix the problem, 2nd reason being is that its wow clone with a depth crafting system and diplomacy system which both seem stagnant.
    Overall, the game is a good. It just was not my piece of pie.
     


     



     

    You call it a wow clone, well this game is not a slightly like wow and there are no wow clones since wow itself is a clone of other games.

     

    WoW is a succsefull clone of other games, any game coming out in similar format can be qualifed as clone of WoW as its the most succesfull game.

  • SholShol Member Posts: 361

    By this logic any operating system on the planet is a clone from windows.

    The original creator of the telephone is AT&T, all cars are clones from Toyota.

    Something like t his. Does this make sense?

  • birkenbirken Member Posts: 122

    Vanguard is hands down the best mmo rpg out. I have a 50 ranger 40 shaman and 24 pally. iam not active at this tiem not casue i dont wantto play just casue money came short. The game has tons of content and huge world. With lots of mount and craftable stuff. It as a good comunity. I would hope atleast people would give this game a shot again you have nothing to lose casue there not good mmo out there. Well that what i think so take it how you want.

  • AkeysAkeys Member Posts: 50

    I played for a about a few days on the trial island and completed all the adventuring quests and diplomacy quests. Decent fun but I only saw about 5 people the whole time.  Diplomacy was very interesting at first but got repetitive. Same with adventuring.  Beautiful graphics though.

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  • csthaocsthao Member UncommonPosts: 1,122
    Originally posted by o2jpl

    Originally posted by Vidir

    Originally posted by o2jpl


    I decided to try out the game and to my surprise there was plenty of activity on Seradon server. Seemed everyone was giving the game a lot of  credit for fixing the bugs that were present on release. I played the game until lvl 9 before getting bored and annoyed by the game.
    Two simple reasons turned me away: game was choppy from start, i do have an op comp and honestly im not going to look for a reason to try to fix the problem, 2nd reason being is that its wow clone with a depth crafting system and diplomacy system which both seem stagnant.
    Overall, the game is a good. It just was not my piece of pie.
     


     



     

    You call it a wow clone, well this game is not a slightly like wow and there are no wow clones since wow itself is a clone of other games.

     

    WoW is a succsefull clone of other games, any game coming out in similar format can be qualifed as clone of WoW as its the most succesfull game.



     

    you can also say its the same as wow is a clone of its predessors. wow is a lcone of other older games. only it has more population and is very successful. but other games before it was successful until it was outdated at its time, Sooner or later Wow will lose its player base just like every other mmo out there. its jsut the way of life. Wow wont be able to hold on it its player base forever.

  • etwynnetwynn Member Posts: 219

     

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  • ArawonArawon Member Posts: 1,108

    Well on Serndon srver in evenings on newbie island isee 40-70 people there.Pretty impressive.

  • MilkyMilky Member Posts: 339

    The words Healthy and Vanguard:SoH do not belong in the same universe.

    The words Life Support and Vanguard:SoH belong right next to each other.

  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888
    Originally posted by Arawon


    What do you think is happening to the VG subscriber base ?
    - stable
    -growing
    -decling
     
    How would you  describe the playerbase who plays the game ?
    -a key reason to play the game
    -like any other mmog..not better ,not worse
    - young,immature jerks
    -filled with high level players who could care less about a newbie
    -welcoming for new players
     


    The game is stable and maybe the population is growing slowly.

    The player based is generally mature and welcoming to new players. 

    The game is not really healthy as it still has a pretty small number of subs overall compared to other games.  It is ashame because at this point it is a really good game and Silias and company are really working hard to get it over the hump with new content and new free expansions.

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  • boojiboyboojiboy Member UncommonPosts: 1,553

    Folks need to remember, being a Mass-Market MMO isn't the only criteria for healthy or successful.  Vanguard has fewer servers and fewer players.  But take Seradon for example, there are folks running around everywhere, some areas are delightfully crowded, it's easy to find a group.... in fact, any more players and VG will have to think about adding back a new server.

    In addition, the rate of new content is accelerating with a larger dev team.  VG has reached the point where they can move away from fixing performance and bugs for the most part and focus on new content.

    That is healthy in my opinion.

  • VultureSkullVultureSkull Member UncommonPosts: 1,774
    Originally posted by o2jpl

    Originally posted by Vidir

    Originally posted by o2jpl


    I decided to try out the game and to my surprise there was plenty of activity on Seradon server. Seemed everyone was giving the game a lot of  credit for fixing the bugs that were present on release. I played the game until lvl 9 before getting bored and annoyed by the game.
    Two simple reasons turned me away: game was choppy from start, i do have an op comp and honestly im not going to look for a reason to try to fix the problem, 2nd reason being is that its wow clone with a depth crafting system and diplomacy system which both seem stagnant.
    Overall, the game is a good. It just was not my piece of pie.
     


     



     

    You call it a wow clone, well this game is not a slightly like wow and there are no wow clones since wow itself is a clone of other games.

     

    WoW is a succsefull clone of other games, any game coming out in similar format can be qualifed as clone of WoW as its the most succesfull game.

    lol people still use this term 'wow clone'?

     

    Dear O2jpl, if VG is a clone of Wow then so is everyother MMO out there, maybe apart from Eve, but i am sure if you try hard enough you could make Eve sound like a wow clone too. 

    So by your warpped logic we all should just play wow. Well i am happy that i am not as short sighted as you as i am bored with Wow, gl mate in finding a game that is not a wow clone, rofl.

     

     

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225

    Vanguard is not a WoW clone.

     

    Its an EQ clone. Hence, its much deeper and better made than WoW.

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Milky


    The words Healthy and Vanguard:SoH do not belong in the same universe.
    The words Life Support and Vanguard:SoH belong right next to each other.

    I recently subbed back to Vanguard and I am having a pretty good time.  I am 16 now and see quite a few people running around on the Seradon server.

    When was the last time you played Vanguard beyond the trial isle?  If you have not played in a long time and not made it out of the isle to see what is going on your statements are null and void.

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  • TruethTrueth Member Posts: 287

    VG subscriber base ?

    ......Stable

    How would you describe the playerbase who plays the game ?

    .....Like any other mmog..not better ,not worse

     

    I'd have to disagree with a previous poster, however. Silius is the primary reason the game is just stable. He is the lead developer and truly has made some of the worst development choices I've ever seen. The man is menace to quality MMO gaming.

    • Removal of Racial Faction
    • Crafted Gear worthless vs. Quested and Dropped Gear
    • Bind on Pick-up Rules
    • Virtually Ignored the Diplomacy and PVP Spheres
    • The addition of silly things like Gnomes with Rifles and Laser Cannons
    • The Addition of Kamelot Incorporated (huh??? Kamelot?)
    • Epic Galleons added and already mastered in less than 24 hours
    • A PVP Arena That is bugged, condones and supports greifing, while ignoring the whole of Sartok

    And much more more.

  • vladwwvladww Member UncommonPosts: 417
    Originally posted by Trueth


    VG subscriber base ?
    ......Stable
    How would you describe the playerbase who plays the game ?
    .....Like any other mmog..not better ,not worse
     
    I'd have to disagree with a previous poster, however. Silius is the primary reason the game is just stable. He is the lead developer and truly has made some of the worst development choices I've ever seen. The man is menace to quality MMO gaming.

    Removal of Racial Faction
    Crafted Gear worthless vs. Quested and Dropped Gear
    Bind on Pick-up Rules
    Virtually Ignored the Diplomacy and PVP Spheres
    The addition of silly things like Gnomes with Rifles and Laser Cannons
    The Addition of Kamelot Incorporated (huh??? Kamelot?)
    Epic Galleons added and already mastered in less than 24 hours
    A PVP Arena That is bugged, condones and supports greifing, while ignoring the whole of Sartok

    And much more more.

    So true

     

    This guy is probably the worst mmorpg dev ever.

     

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  • abyss610abyss610 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,131

    for me vanguard had the second best community of teh mmos i've played, top being eqoa.

    very welcoming when i played got in a guid pretty quick helped me out alot crafted me an armor set to get started and one to grow into. offered to run me through stuff (declined rather do it in a group my lvl)

    love the classes in vanguard better than all other games tho very deep alot to each one.some have different paths like at 15 (i think) a monk can choose between 3 different types of monk, drunken fist, dragonfist and forget the defencive  one's name. rogue was really fun to i think every attack had its on animation unlike most games where they stab stab stab maybe one different animation for special attack but all special attack animation looked the same.fight system was fun too some attacks only activated after ac crit others only after a parry others after a dodge so wasn't just spamming attacks.always killed me when my enhancement orc shaman with DW would only ever hit with his RIGHT hand never his left and a single downward motion no variation.

  • boojiboyboojiboy Member UncommonPosts: 1,553
    Originally posted by Trueth


    VG subscriber base ?
    ......Stable
    How would you describe the playerbase who plays the game ?
    .....Like any other mmog..not better ,not worse
     
    I'd have to disagree with a previous poster, however. Silius is the primary reason the game is just stable. He is the lead developer and truly has made some of the worst development choices I've ever seen. The man is menace to quality MMO gaming.

    Removal of Racial Faction
    Crafted Gear worthless vs. Quested and Dropped Gear
    Bind on Pick-up Rules
    Virtually Ignored the Diplomacy and PVP Spheres
    The addition of silly things like Gnomes with Rifles and Laser Cannons
    The Addition of Kamelot Incorporated (huh??? Kamelot?)
    Epic Galleons added and already mastered in less than 24 hours
    A PVP Arena That is bugged, condones and supports greifing, while ignoring the whole of Sartok

    And much more more.



     

    • Racial Faction is back in, and is more meaningful now.
    • Crafted gear is still very, very good and moreso now with new content. Crafters can make ALOT of money.  Heck 20plat for a set of horseshoes?  Crafters can also make incredible, incredible items with APW recipes and resources.  Some of the very best gear in the game.  Frozen Core Shield or Dragonscale BP anyone?
    • They've undone a lot of BoP, but I do wish they'd undo more.
    • Diplomacy has not been ignored, recently had a big content update.  Can't speak to PvP other than the new PvP area and Infamy.  Need to check that out.
    • Never liked some of the Gnomish stuff.... can't argue there.
    • Kamelot has always been a big part of Telon Lore.... it's just now more fleshed out with SoD.
    • People stockpiled Galleon resources for months, which resulted in them being made quickly.  But I was hoping they'd be more meaningful in game

    In addition, the improvements to performance and bug-fixing have been enormous.  Now that they can focus on content, I've been very impressed with what has been added.  There is way more to do than I have time for, which is a good feeling.

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