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Blizzard not to blame?!

WeenusWeenus Member Posts: 42

Anyone ever think that their publisher Vivindi Universal is to blame and not Blizzard? VUG comes out with the release dates, their most likely in charge of the beta phases/dates as well. You think they forced blizzard to make an open beta soon anouncement even though they weren't ready? VUG posted those ads in the mags not blizzard....

....Your thoughts....

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  • analogueanalogue Member Posts: 79


    Originally posted by Weenus
    Anyone ever think that their publisher Vivindi Universal is to blame and not Blizzard? VUG comes out with the release dates, their most likely in charge of the beta phases/dates as well. You think they forced blizzard to make an open beta soon anouncement even though they weren't ready? VUG posted those ads in the mags not blizzard....
    ....Your thoughts....

    They are to blame. VU is the publisher giving them the bad orders, but hell, it's blizzard, if they really want to not force the localisation or the beta dates, they can.

    So they are to blame ! Stop trying to protect them behind VU.


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  • BrambeyBrambey Member Posts: 132

    Yeah blizzard is at fault... Vivendi isnt making them goof up and delay the game time and time again, chewing up more of their development money while the lazy blizzard staff sits around and does nothing... This game should have gone live a year ago, and it would have if Blizzard wasnt a company fulla bums.

  • ferilmasterferilmaster Member Posts: 177



    Originally posted by Brambey

    Yeah blizzard is at fault... Vivendi isnt making them goof up and delay the game time and time again, chewing up more of their development money while the lazy blizzard staff sits around and does nothing... This game should have gone live a year ago, and it would have if Blizzard wasnt a company fulla bums.



    I'm not trying to flame, but please STFU, do you know how long a day the blizzard developers have?  I'll go through the WoW beta forums to find it, but I doubt you work harder or longer than any of them.  And I sincerely wish that everyone would stop crying like little babies about OB or it's release, it'll come when it comes, so please, once again, STFU. I'm so tired of listening to everyone whine all day.

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  • EvilAnakinEvilAnakin Member Posts: 15


    I'm not trying to flame, but please STFU, do you know how long a day the blizzard developers have? I'll go through the WoW beta forums to find it, but I doubt you work harder or longer than any of them. And I sincerely wish that everyone would stop crying like little babies about OB or it's release, it'll come when it comes, so please, once again, STFU. I'm so tired of listening to everyone whine all day.

    Wow i wonder how you can live with yourself, anoyed of people who whine, when your doing it at the same time. Yup... i really wonder how... Oh and btw YES it is Blizzards fault, the SWG development team at SOE was better than this during beta, and THAT is not a good thing

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  • LoStCaUz3LoStCaUz3 Member Posts: 1,154


    Originally posted by analogue

    They are to blame. VU is the publisher giving them the bad orders, but hell, it's blizzard, if they really want to not force the localisation or the beta dates, they can.

    So they are to blame ! Stop trying to protect them behind VU.


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    If some big game company (e.g. VU) signed your pay checks for your whole company(Blizzard), would you go behind their back and stand to lose hundreds of employees and thousands of dollars? I think not...



    Yeah blizzard is at fault... Vivendi isnt making them goof up and delay the game time and time again, chewing up more of their development money while the lazy blizzard staff sits around and does nothing... This game should have gone live a year ago, and it would have if Blizzard wasnt a company fulla bums.

    It's funny how you can call them lazy. Really. Have you read some of the posts coming from the developers? Can you even imagine how many overtime they spend working into the wee hours of the morning writing code so people like you can play their game. You should thank these "lazy" people for spending so much of their lives putting together a videogame for your enjoyment.

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  • EvilAnakinEvilAnakin Member Posts: 15


    It's funny how you can call them lazy. Really. Have you read some of the posts coming from the developers? Can you even imagine how many overtime they spend working into the wee hours of the morning writing code so people like you can play their game. You should thank these "lazy" people for spending so much of their lives putting together a videogame for your enjoyment.

    /agree

    I've actually been inside the offices of Ubisoft in Montreal, and I'll tell you right now, game developpers are FAR from lazy. They work like madmen, and plus they 'usually' love what they do, and thats an additional insentive to bring the gamers a game worthy of their time.

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  • AnnekynnAnnekynn Member Posts: 1,437

    Bah who cares who is to blame. It wont make any difference will it? ::::07::

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  • jimothypetrojimothypetro Member Posts: 1,437

    Like annekyn said.. who cares if Blizzard is to blame or if Vivendi(sp) is to blame?

    It makes no difference at all whether it is Vivendi or Blizzard's fault.. either way it was a mistake.

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  • ChainsawDChainsawD Member Posts: 17
    It's funny when people bash blizzard.  Especially when they call them a bunch of bums or something degrading. The people that they blast (Blizzard) are the same people that obviously have a good enough product that it's keeping us in these forum's till the wee hours of the morning.... so if the bums are making the product and your hooked on the product.... what does that make you?image  But then again I'm with you.... you don't tell us junkies soon and not mean soon.

  • AdoraAdora Member Posts: 320
    It does not matter who is to blame. It's just speculation. The game will be out when it is ready to come out. We all just have to wait patiently, like we have been already!image

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  • PotatoManPotatoMan Member Posts: 81
    Just like we have been? yeah right, everyone in here is complaining over and over again, "WHERES OB!!! AHHH IM GONNA DIE!!!", yeah thats REALLY patient imageThough I must confess, I'm one of those too image

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  • sundropsundrop Member Posts: 67

    whos in a hurry? i can patient.

  • GoobGoob Member Posts: 398

    You people need to forget about WoW for a few weeks, let your blood start flowing smoothly and have your thoughts on track again.  Taje a break from computers, try reading books and applying yourself into something else.  Come back, and the OB will be starting up and you'll be happier, and will not have lost your mind as you would if you sat here all day waiting for an annoucement.

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  • FE|TachyonFE|Tachyon Member UncommonPosts: 652

    Well its very obvious most people don't know what a Publisher does.

    They DON'T make release dates.
    They DON'T set phase dates.
    They DON'T handle any form of production.

    They are a large invester, basicly. Blizzard uses they're funds to produce the game. Thats 3 years of work, somebody needs to write the checks. YES Blizzard COULD do this themselfs... Why Don't they? Well they are a publicly traded company, and the strains on their resources, and sceptic investers could cause their stock to drop. Why risk it? Afterall thats what publishers are there for.
    Blizzard doesn't start making money till they start to sell.

  • CIM_LWCIM_LW Member Posts: 282



    Originally posted by FE|Tachyon

    Well its very obvious most people don't know what a Publisher does.
    They DON'T make release dates.
    They DON'T set phase dates.
    They DON'T handle any form of production.
    They are a large invester, basicly. Blizzard uses they're funds to produce the game. Thats 3 years of work, somebody needs to write the checks. YES Blizzard COULD do this themselfs... Why Don't they? Well they are a publicly traded company, and the strains on their resources, and sceptic investers could cause their stock to drop. Why risk it? Afterall thats what publishers are there for.
    Blizzard doesn't start making money till they start to sell.



    Sorry, you're wrong. Most, if not all publishers, set dates for when the game needs to be done and released. Only the "big names" like Blizzard have any say in things.

    No matter what you think, Vivendi surely is poking Blizzard with sticks to get them done, because they want their money and that's all they want.

  • EvilAnakinEvilAnakin Member Posts: 15


    Sorry, you're wrong. Most, if not all publishers, set dates for when the game needs to be done and released. Only the "big names" like Blizzard have any say in things.

    Actually Blizzard have no say in anything. If Vivendi want the game to be released, it will be released no matter what blizzard says.

    And anyways, were talking about Beta Phases here, so the publisher have no place in this discussion

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