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Witch Hunter/Witch Elf still killing other classes in 4 seconds....
tetammoth
Member Posts: 108
Still not fixed, i consider the overpowered condition of WH and WE as Bugged and not as overpowered.
Its even worse, these 2 classes are now killing others not in 5 or 6 sec, no since last patch its 3-4 seconds.
Are the Mythic Developers not playing their own game ? i cant imagine that any of these so called "developers" want to die in 3-4 second.
I assume that Mythic isnt playing their own game and if then they only play WE/WH and Kotbs..
Sorceror and BWs are also still far to strong because all the RESIST Gear isnt working.
I have 55% resist in Elemental and it brings nothing.
CONCLUSION > Warhammer is still the most imbalanced and unfair game on the market.
If you love to be God play Witch Hunter, Witch Elf , Knight of the Blazing sun or Bright Wizard. The rest of the classes is xp/renown farm trash..
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What Tier is this happening at? I'm at T1 with a lvl 9 rr 9 Witch Hunter with full INF gear from ALL the Realms and I'm not able to kill anyone in 4 seconds. The only time I've killed anyone in four seconds is if they're already weakened or already being attacked / dot'd by another player. And yes I'm playing my char right since I do quite well at ORVR and Scenarios.
Tier 2-4
Tier 3 you die in 5 sec
worst in T4 you die in 3 sec...
is this against all toons or just clothies? Makes sense if clothies go down fast. If you really feel that high level is OP'd try sending constant bug reports & posting feed back instead of complaining. They listen more when you don't complain and make reasonable points and have facts to back it all up.
To really get the point take a video of it happening against say a tank or someone thats NOT directly weak against a Witch Hunter / Witch Elf on the rock paper scissors chain.
Oh come on...
Is this "Nerf BWs" again?
It's the point of the whole class that they kill squishies in 5 seconds or less. I play both a RP healer and a lowbie WH alt.
When my Runepriest gets slaughtered by a WE I'm angry at myself for being stupid for leaving the protection of main group while I know WEs are on the prowl. It is not the game's fault - it is mine for not playing a squishy healer well.
When I play a Witchhunter I have the thrill of zeroing in on those squishies knowing I'll get killed right afterwards. It is a kamikaze class if played properly - you got 10 seconds or less to do as much damage as possible before they pound you into the ground.
Lol the worst thing Mythic could do would be to repeat the horrible mistake they did with Bright Wizards - by nerfing their damage and (slightly) buffing survivability they made one of the most exciting fantasy classes EVER into one of the most boring ones. WE's and WHs should be left as they are and those idiotic changes to BWs should be reversed.
/edit - sorry got dumb.. isn't BW damage mostly corporeal? gotta check my alt...
Excellent post... my thoughts exactly!
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JonMichael
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+ rep to u dude, its awesome that u accept the fact that its not cause we/wh own cause theyre unbalanced. u r one who pays attention in battle. i got a lvl 40 w/e... and heres the lowdown for the whiney OP. w/e pwn any class 1vs1. its just that simple. when i was lvl 27, i could beat a lvl 34 archmage, when i was 34, i could beat lvl 40 bw. i think ur getting nuked or ur taking on a higher lvl w/e.
my thoughts based on both rank 40...
w/e vs w/h = pure skill... these 2 classes r so balanced against eachother(i love it, good challenge)
w/e vs b/w = pwnage... ranged clothy duh
w/e vs a/m = pwnage... healer clothy duh
w/e vs w/l, r/p, w/p,b/s = some skill... takes longer cause of heals/armor
w/e vs i/b = some skill... i dont even bother just cause it takes too damn long
I think thats about right, for a cloth wearer. However anything with armor has far less to worry about. Life is harsh as a caster, especially on order where about 1 in every 4 destro is a WE.
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
Odd my DoK of level 27 has been ambushed by many different WH of level 31. A was attacked by clothy specced and tank specced WH. Oddly enough I beat them all in a one on one fight, even when starting at a huge disadvantage.
Even odder, my lvl 31 Rune priest lives on a average of 10 seconds when under a heavy surprse assult from a witch elf. That same Rune Priest, when well prepared, likves upwards to 20 or 30 seconds when facing a witch elf attack. Only 5 times out of the 2 months of playing have I ever been killed in less than 4 seconds. Each instance was by a WE 5+ levels higher than me.
What's even odder than that is my Rune priest dies faster and easier to Marauders than to any WE assault. Are we playing the same game here?
The DoK is a DPS Melee healer..he can take and give more damage then a RunePriest who is primarily a full healer style class like the Zealot. I know my WH can take down Shamans and Zealots pretty easily but has a tough as hell time trying to take down a DoK.
My Destructions chars always have a rough time with the Warrior Priest which is the DoK's mirror.
Not all healers are made equal in their survivability if something like a WE / WH gets on them rofl
when I played at release WH was weaksauce, my swordmaster did more damage. I take it they changed something or its more powerful at higher levels.
My blog:
theyve changed alot, w/h and w/e r squishy but with heal bots, they pwn u and ur mom lol, just u without heals
They seem to be the pain in the ars to the caster, most notabaly the archmage and BW. I think instead of nerfing them, they could give those two classes a small invincible spell lasts a few seconds to give time for help. Seriously though, and I dont play either of the two. If they nerf them they wouldnt be worth a crap. They kill squishes fast but usually die in the process.
I know that. Tell that to the OP and anyone with him who swears WE can kill any class 1 vs 1. WE do not kill everything in 3 - 4 seconds. they hardly kill anything in 3 - 4 seconds.
At the end of a scenerio, look how many times WH/WE die. They hit hard but usually die during it. I fear them as a BW but each class should have a class you fear!
Maybe its the player not the game. On the Warhammer alliance forums I can see the BW complaining they cant hurt anyone because the resists are stacking and people are running around with 80% resist.
Try checking your combat log.
Example
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216055 heres a post from a lvl 31 RP who died in 4 seconds to a witch elf. So its possible - but half the damage they took was from moving around with enfeebling strike on - so they did half the work for the WE. But that seems to be the exception not the rule.
Maybe its the player not the game. On the Warhammer alliance forums I can see the BW complaining they cant hurt anyone because the resists are stacking and people are running around with 80% resist.
Try checking your combat log.
Example
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216055 heres a post from a lvl 31 RP who died in 4 seconds to a witch elf. So its possible - but half the damage they took was from moving around with enfeebling strike on - so they did half the work for the WE. But that seems to be the exception not the rule.
lol yea I do that as my opener and half the people continue running from me, thus killing themself for me
Sorry, this made me lol pretty hard.
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More tears.......who knew.
You'd think that he got the clue by now and just quit WAR altogether. It's ok to voice your displeasure as a paying customer. That goes without saying, but at some point you gotta realize that this product isn't for you.
WH is a profession of circumstance. It is highly adaptable, and if WH catches an idiot off-guard, yes they die rather quickly. My fastest kill since reading the OPs very first tear filled post was 15 seconds. Tier 3 versus a Squig Hunter.
The OP needs to realize one crucial portion of WAR gameplay......teamwork. This is not a 1v1 game even though there are classes better built for 1v1 gameplay. If I go after a healr in a good group, I get the business end of swords and daggers so quickly I don't even get my kill.
Get better groups Teta. You also need to learn to play obviously, but better groups help your survivability.
Sorry, this made me lol pretty hard.
im curious as to why u "lol'ed" so hard?