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WoW vs EQ2 help me decide.

I need advice on the game i should buy based on my preference between wow and eq2.

Here it goes.

I have limited time play (3-4h/d) which favors wow for the kind of play will do and i know eq2 will require most people to log in for many hours to be able to level adequately and go on raids.

But i usualy like to favor greatly pvm(player versus mobs) over pvp. I was wondering if you could play wow with minimal pvp (will there me non pvp servers in wow) or is the game designed so that at high level most will be doing pvp. Should i head for eq2 for the pvm even thow i can only play for 3-4 hours at a time.

Both games seem to be great, even thow i havent tried either.

But they both have something i like and dislike.

Based on what i said, what would be your suggestion.

Thanks in advanced to everyone replying to this post.

 

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  • NeoklisNeoklis Member Posts: 42

    Wait for reviews , once both games go live. 

    Lets not start another  flaming thread.  image

  • jimothypetrojimothypetro Member Posts: 1,437

    Hmm.. well WoW does have good PvM.. but the endgame might not be there for you if you don't like PvP.

    There are non-PvP servers, and you don't have to PvP at all on them.. but it might get stale pretty quick.

    Overall I would still go with WoW over EQ2 though.

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  • FE|TachyonFE|Tachyon Member UncommonPosts: 652

    I just posted to this, but it didnt' show up.

    WoW.

    WoW tries to help casual players by offering a bonus to XP, for players who are rested, to help keep up with the powergamers.

    WoW is Smooth, and stable

    Biggest reason, WoW is more depth and direction, whereas with EQ2 I felt like it lacked direction, and focus.. Your kinda there just wandering around a world, hoping to bump into somebody witha a quest for you.

  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786
     I would say World of Warcraft. PvM is very fun, and like me, I really don't have time to play MMO's all day long. That's why I will be playing World of Warcraft as well.

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384



    Originally posted by Archebald

    I need advice on the game i should buy based on my preference between wow and eq2.

    Here it goes.

    I have limited time play (3-4h/d) which favors wow for the kind of play will do and i know eq2 will require most people to log in for many hours to be able to level adequately and go on raids.

    WoW seems better in this instance.

    But i usualy like to favor greatly pvm(player versus mobs) over pvp. I was wondering if you could play wow with minimal pvp (will there me non pvp servers in wow) or is the game designed so that at high level most will be doing pvp. Should i head for eq2 for the pvm even thow i can only play for 3-4 hours at a time.

    If you like PvM more than PvP then EQ2


    Thanks in advanced to everyone replying to this post.




    The PvP in WoW isn't all that unforgiven. I would think WoW is best suited for you. Both are great games so I dont think you can go wrong.

    If I were you, I would choose WoW

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • dougfrippondougfrippon Member Posts: 206

    Y'know I may not be the best guy to get advices from, because since I play the beta, I've been a WoW fanboy, and don't wanna hear anything about EQ2.. but..

    1.If you have limited time to play, WoW Offers you the "rest time" feature, that accullumates during the time your character is loged off. Rest time makes you gain experience 200% faster. (this feature was intended for people who have limited time to play)

    2.If you don't like PvP, don't play on the PvP server...  The non-pvp server I think has even more people playing actually... and you won't have to fight anyone if you don't want to. (I could call that minimal)

    Considering this, I would definitly go for WoW, because those two things respond to your needs, and they both are absent in EQ2. But y'know I could continu arguing you, how EQ2 is (IMO) definitly no match against WoW, but this isn't what you wan't to hear... still can't ressist.. arg... must... flame.. .eq2... You know EQ2 is made by Sony Entertainment Systems [SOE] right?, this fact itself can lead you to a sure choice, Blizzard is sooo much better than SOE. You can definitly count on Bliz to provide exeptionnal high-end contentimage, but can you trust SOE image?

  • Narco28Narco28 Member Posts: 300

    do some research and make up your own mind

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  • hauj0bbhauj0bb Member Posts: 153


    Originally posted by Archebald
    (will there me non pvp servers in wow)

    Yes, there will be non-pvp servers (PVE)

    Whether or not you choose to play on a PVP server, there will be pvp interactions all through out the world.

    the PVP designated servers are open pvp, the PVE servers are not open, meaning you cannot walk up and gank someone like you could on the pvp servers.

    the game as of now is Alliance vs Horde, Alliance and Horde both raid each others cities, PvP server or not.

  • BrambeyBrambey Member Posts: 132

    Go with WoW... EQ2 is made by SoE and even though I havnt tried it... I can tell just from the screenies and my experience with the SWG beta from phase1... that its complete garbage. EQ2 is total crap dont pay 50 cents for it nevermind 50 bucks. Thats why EQ2 wont have an open beta... they know if people try it before they buy it... they wont sell 10 copies.

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Try both and see for yourself.

    Informed people try games for themselves rather then bash things without even playing it(cough cough someone above my post).

    By the way if you go to France and ask who is better americans or French what answer will you get?

    Same thing you are posting in a WoW forum.Go post in EQ2 forum and be amazed at the direct opposite response you will get.

    Best thing is post in a general game forum if you want a view not in a game specific one as you did.

  • NihilisNihilis Member Posts: 119
      You do realize that if you go to the WoW forums and ask this question that everyone will tell you to get WoW and that EQ2 is garbage, right?  Geez people, just relax okay?  This isn't a war, it's a game.

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  • tharkthark Member UncommonPosts: 1,188

    imageHmm, Why woul'd anyone ask a question like this without the intention to start a hidden flamewar against EQ2..Did you really expect people would say choose EQ2 in here ?

    To answer your question, Well It depends on you, nothing else..I wouldnt listen to a bunch of fanbois in a WoW forum thou..So I will not give you any suggestion..

     

    /Junker

     

  • KrunKrun Member Posts: 7

    WoW or EQ2. they look like very differnt beasts.

    EQ2 is very quest heavy and the graphical specs are extremmly high (1 year old PC wih 128mb graphics only just runs the thing).

    WoW looks abit cartoony, (thats a good thing to some and a bad thing to others)Seems like its aimed more at a casual players.

    Both have a Good vs Bad PvP type game planned.

     

    In the end i think it comes down to personal taste. If you like the Warcraft universe. Then WoW will be your best choice.

    But as someones already said. ask this in WoW faroum you'll get plenty of WoW is best. Ask in EQ2 forum and you'll get an equal amount of EQ2 is best. 

  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

    For me, WoW all the way. I am comfortable with my decision based on my learning’s to date as someone who has been following both and has been in beta of both.

    WoW is a very nice improvement over it's predecessors and seems to do everything a little bit bit better. . .so even a little bit better is a better investment for my dollar.

    =Graphics – WoW because the graphics are clean, simple, not overly complex, they render wonderfully and don’t require a huge investment in processing or memory which allows for smoother game-play. Anyone choosing very high-end graphics is making the wrong decisions about why one game should be preferred over another. I think that 70% of the EQII community will not be able to take advantage of anything more than the lowest graphics setting, and at that level the graphics detail are not pleasant at all…very grainy and unpolished – not to mention that the claymation style graphics don’t appeal to me.

    =Immersion – WoW because the storyline and quests lead to rewarding outcomes and can be intertwined with other stories and quests. In addition, PvP has purpose and the game-play is designed with PvE and PvP in mind, though it should carry more weight in terms of forcing people into player interactivity, but the direction is great. EQ have never been design with breadth and depth of balanced PvE and anything relating to meaningful role or game-play immersive PvP. EQ1 and 2 are just not, absolutely not PvP friendly games. . .it is an abysmal afterthought with EQ1 and EQ2. The WoW PvP incorporation enhances the short-term and long-term game experience. . .it adds a great sense of suspense and unexpectedness that is dynamic, rather than linear as you’ll find with the EQ PvE model of game-play. I don’t think there is an end-game with WoW, it is “open-ended” which means there is more to do and accomplish as you progress through the story, quests, etc.

    =Quests – WoW allows for quest accomplishment with a nice blend of difficulty, ease of use, types, reward, adventuring, exploration and game-play immersion and story telling. Both games will have many npc’s that when engaged provide different quests, but seems like WoW makes the process less labor and downtime intensive minimizing the amount of time spent in-game searching over a very long period of time for a particular npc, site, location, etc. WoW is more questing friendly, not too simple by any means, just less labor intensive and a better use of my game-play with less aimlessly running around time. EQII gives the impression and I’d be concerned that it would be a much more laborious and confusing questing system with little to no descriptiveness of how you should accomplish your task, where the task needs to be accomplished, leading to too much wasted in-game time yelling for help and traveling in a completely different direction than that which should be taken. Though If your interested in quantity over quality, then EQII may be the choice. But WoW seems to have the better balance of quantity and quality.

    =Environment – WoW seems to be a much less crowded and adventuring friendly environment that invites players to explore without feeling like a rat caught in a maze. EQII seems to be very claustrophobic. . .the cities, and wilderness environments seem very confining and because of that, not very fun to get around in or explore.

    =General game-play: WoW has great game-play range for both harder-core and casual players. WoW seems like down-time between encounters is minimized by not having to spend a quarter of your game-play time resting to regenerate stamina or mana or fear of getting continuously pinned in by non-escapable gauntlet of mobs. The WoW adventuring fear factor is there, but it is manageable. With EQII, I have gotten the impression that you’d need an army of players to help keep you safe from the mobs in order to make it to the simplest destination safely.

    With WoW, seems like though all mmorpgs have a healthy degree of mob bashing in order to advance, the WoW game-play environment and style of game-play will probably take much more of the sting out of the tread-millish feeling with their perceived more friendly questing system and less down-time game-play style. If you want to stick with the tedious game-play that EQ is known for, then WoW is not for you.

    Recovering after getting killed by a mob or another player is very friendly. .you port to a grave-yard and have the option of ressing on the spot for a minor experience hit (which can be gotten back) or running for your corpse without a minor experience hit. . .in both situations, gear is not lost. That fact contributes greatly to the replayability of WoW.

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925



    Originally posted by thark

    imageHmm, Why woul'd anyone ask a question like this without the intention to start a hidden flamewar against EQ2..Did you really expect people would say choose EQ2 in here ?
    To answer your question, Well It depends on you, nothing else..I wouldnt listen to a bunch of fanbois in a WoW forum thou..So I will not give you any suggestion..
     
    /Junker
     



    Actually i think you are 100% right i seen a lot of this threads in the general game forum section but first time i seen it in  a game specific one.

    Seems it is just one to start a flamewar against EQ2 .

  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033


    Originally posted by hercules: Seems it is just one to start a flamewar against EQ2 .

    If you cant controll yourself and act maturely with smart and informative responses, then dont respond to the topic.

    This is a forum. . .it is where thoughts are shared. I get the impression that some do "bait" a flame war and contribute to one just by virtue of stating that a question cant be asked or addressed and a well thought opinion cant be shared without sinking onto a flame fest.

  • BoldgrimBoldgrim Member UncommonPosts: 69

    Someone at my office and is in the same situation.  He doesn't have a lot of time to play but he really wants to play.  He looks at me for answers since I played both.  WoW is an amazing game.  It doesn't bring anything new to the table,  but it's very addictive and will run great on most hardware, even if it's a few years old (late Pentium 3).  It's a pick up and go kind of game.  You log on, no screwing around, you get in the heat of the action almost right away.  Every NPC you need to talk to have a big exclamation or interogation point over their heads.

    The graphics of WoW are different, yes, but it's not a bad thing.  I think from the start they were going for a different look.  There are some pretty advance graphic features, for those with the proper card, you just don't notice them because they are shrouded in the art style of the game.  Also the game is extremely polished and stable.

    EverQuest II is a whole other thing.  It brings quite a few new features, never used in other games before (heroic opportunities for example).  But to really enjoy a game, you need a pretty powerful computer.  Sure you can run the game on a mid-range computer, but you're missing out on a lot of cool stuff.  It is also a lot more involved.

    You need to spend quite some time in the game to really appreciate it.  You can get involved in the politics of you city of choice (I am in the militia and going up in ranks).  Also, every NPC speaks its line of text (well almost every).  And coming from Star Wars Galaxies, I'm happy to find the chat bubbles are there.  Some don't like 'em, I love 'em and think they're great asset.  The game will require some time commitment but from what I can tell, there's much more to do in it.

    I will buy both and try them both at retail.  But I can appreciate that not everyone has the time nor the computer to run those two games in all their glory.  Whatever you choose, remember to have fun.  If you stop having fun, then your selected game might not be for you!

  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

    WoW has heroic opportunities.

    And the voice-overs of NPCs are a great add to the immersiveness as well.

  • y2skyy2sky Member Posts: 34

    Ah yes, the November decision that rivals even Bush vs. Kerry image

    I have played both beta experiences for these two games.  Really what it boils down to is your normal hours of playing and your style.

    Are you a casual gamer, meaning that you get to play anywhere from 1 hour to 3 hours (when lucky) a day?  Do you have a full-time job and/or a family?  Do you like to play solo often?  If you answer yes to most of these, you would best be served as a WoW player.  WoW offers an easier time for those that like to do their basic level grind solo.  Grouping is a VERY viable option for instanced dungeons and raids (more raid zones will be in after release, btw), but your basic level grind can be done solo.  Coupled with the resting option, you would be able to log on for 1 hour, 2-3 nights a week and still make viable progress on a character.

    Are you a group-oriented player?  Do you enjoy working out group tactics?  Are you planning on joining a big guild and getting involved in guild politics or events?  Do you have the time to log on at least 4 hours a day?  These are the traits of an ideal EQ2 player.  EQ2 is going to have a much more sophisticated guild system and group tactics (with Heroic Opportunities).  However, being a casual player in EQ2 beta, I am finding it difficult to make progress on a character, as xp moves too slowly in solo play.  Keep in mind that grouping is somewhat easier in EQ2 than in EQLive.  The archetype system makes constructing groups easier.  As SoE continues to develop the classes, you'll have a clearly defined role in a group regardless of the class you play.

    If you're torn between the two types (like me), then just try out both and go with what seems like more fun.  I am leaning more towards WoW at the moment, simply b/c I can get more out of a 1-hour playing session than I can with EQ2.  However, EQ2 will likely have better longevity for more dedicated players (plus I have a guild I can play EQ2 with).  Good luck in your decision, and wish me luck on mine!

  • LaneoLaneo Member Posts: 359



    Originally posted by Archebald

    I need advice on the game i should buy based on my preference between wow and eq2.
    Here it goes.
    I have limited time play (3-4h/d) which favors wow for the kind of play will do and i know eq2 will require most people to log in for many hours to be able to level adequately and go on raids.
    But i usualy like to favor greatly pvm(player versus mobs) over pvp. I was wondering if you could play wow with minimal pvp (will there me non pvp servers in wow) or is the game designed so that at high level most will be doing pvp. Should i head for eq2 for the pvm even thow i can only play for 3-4 hours at a time.
    Both games seem to be great, even thow i havent tried either.
    But they both have something i like and dislike.
    Based on what i said, what would be your suggestion.
    Thanks in advanced to everyone replying to this post.
     



    This needs to be on the "general Forums" and not on WoW or EQ2 boards if you want REAL answers and opinions.

    Posting this kind of question on a specific board related to the choice of one over the other will undoubtly favor the said SECTION you are posting in...Duuuuuuuuuhhhhimage

    Please move this to the GENERAL BOARDS!!!! and get 50/50 answers, not 99/1. Playing in a homefield advantage merits no conclusion to your question here.

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  • tharkthark Member UncommonPosts: 1,188



    Originally posted by karenp

    And it doesnt help when 2 EQ fanbois (Thark and Hercules) come to the WoW forum and try to disguise their sincerity for forum behavior in a shroud of "match-lighting".
    Ohh...WoW. In addition, the community seems very helpful and friendly.



    imageHmm, All I said was that he should try them both and then deceide, and I also said that he won't get a sincere answer in this forum, It's rather pointless to ask this kind of question in here..Isn't it ?

    Im personally going to play both, but still think it's the wrong forum for him to answer this question, If I would ask this I would ask it in the general forum !!!

    /Junker


     

  • eblaneblan Member Posts: 34

    Having played both EQ2 beta and WoW stress test i'm probably going to go with WoW first, and EQ2 if/when I eventually get bored with WoW. Then again, if EQ2 releases before WoW open beta starts and I get bored enough that might change. Blizz kinda needs to either poop or get off the pot heh, WoW's more ready than EQ2 is IMO (unless some major screwups happened since Stress Test). EQ2 isn't a bad game, i'm having fun with it. I just had more fun with WoW.

    The games are very similar in many respects. Rather than focus on what's similar i'll give somewhat of a rundown on the differences. First PvP, WoW is very PvP oriented, EQ2 doesn't have PvP and probably won't for a while. This gives WoW some life in the end game, get uber then kill some players. EQ2 you get uber and umm, I guess hit on newbies <shrug>, or help others get uber. Personally i'd rather kill players than hit on newbies, but to each his own. EQ2 wins on graphics if you have a good enough video card to play the game smoothly with at least medium settings.

    The quest system between the two games is similar except for the fact that it feels smoother in WoW. A couple quests = a level, where as in EQ2 at some point you find leveling slows down earlier. I haven't had much trouble soloing in EQ2 with my mage but if it's anything like EQ1 that'll change soon, this remark's clearly speculation though, perhaps if I run into proof that it's correct i'll update my commentary. The other big difference between the two is so simple it boggles the mind why SOE hasn't caught on, the fact that WoW quest giver NPCs have a yellow exclamation mark above their head if they have a quest for you. In EQ2 you pretty much have to run around hailing everyone to find quests which can feel pretty tedious.

    I didn't see too many bugs in EQ2, it has a few here and there but nothing game breaking. Aside from the occasional brief lag from what I can tell the servers are running fairly stable. One that comes to mind is the boat from Commonlands to Nektulos, when in Nektulos, seems to clip wrong with the dock, meaning the dock appears to phase inside the boat, graphical glitches are no big deal though. Don't get me wrong, I feel EQ2 could use a bit more work before it goes live, but it's certainly not as bad off as SWG or Planetside were, EQ2's more "ready" than SWG is today a year after release.

    In conclusion I believe both WoW and EQ2 are very good games, and you probably can't go wrong with either. Personally I like WoW more but EQ2 isn't far behind if you play it for a bit to get into it. WoW seemed to suck me in faster than EQ2 did, EQ2 kinda grew on me after an hour or so. I'd still rather be playing WoW though, I don't know why but it just feels more fun, more complete. If you're the hardcore PvP type though go for WoW, EQ2 will disappoint you. If you're not into PvP and you feel the leveling in WoW is "too fast", EQ2's probably the game for you.


  • BigPeelerBigPeeler Member Posts: 1,270

    as a COMPLETELY unbiased fallower of both games, my vote has to go to EQ2...

    after everything i've seen, read, heard, and watched (which is practically everything out there aside from actually playing the games myself) EQ2 APPEARS to be the better game...

    let the flaming... BEGIN!!!


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  • karenpkarenp Member Posts: 16

    No flaming needed. Glad you read everything you could. Since Ive been in the beta for both, WoW wins out on fun factor, breadth and depth of game-play and replayability.

    Both games have their plus's and minus's, but EQ left me with a sense of being really laborious to play - not fun - even with their little "benefits".

    WoW has been able to keep and hold my attention with its broad range of game-play friendly activities, its intuitiveness. . .its challenging, immersive, dynamic, but not tiring.

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