Heh... well considering they get a Bank at all is a bonus.
Here let's make a list to compare:
PK = Murderer RP = Regular Player (heh... couldn't think of another term to use)
Starting City = RP (with Banking, Crafting, Vendors, BindStones, etc.) Capital City = RP (with Banking, Crafting, Vendors, BindStones, etc.) Neutral City = RP & PK (with Banking, Crafting, Vendors, BindStones, etc.) Clan City = RP & RK (with Banking, Crafting, Vendors, ClanStones, etc.... depends on level of city I would guess) Small Trader Camps = RP & PK (some with Banking, Crafting, Vendors, etc.) Wilderness BindStones = RP & PK
I guess to me that list doesn't look too bad if I were one that wanted to live the life of a Murderer. That list looks a whole lot better than it did before this update.
The whole "risky" thing is a bunch of hyperbole when talking about Murderer's worrying about being pk'ed... heh... they are Murderers... that is their life; they expect that. They aren't concerned about being pk'ed themselves... in fact some of them enjoy that aspect of it, and is the main reason they've become Murderers in the first place.
No, they are concerned about being able to have access to things like Banking, Crafting, Vendors, BindStones... at all. That was the whole point of DarkFall being a one character per server game. There is no "mule" or alt to go and get you all those things that you couldn't do once you became a murderer. Heh... well no worries there.
Yeah, they might not be able to Bank at the fancy Capital Bank with it's nice-looking tellers and big shiny Guard Towers ready to rain down arrows on the unworthy. They'll have to settle for the small little branch Bank out in the woods with a toothless wench as a teller... but as long as it still works the same... I think they'll get over it.
The part in red kind of changes when you talk about DarkFall lol.
Anyone outside your faction is a potential threat. So you have that same sense of danger without having to be a murderer. The only thing you stand to gain in this case is less access........... and 0 allies outside those in your clan or flist.
I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out.
One other thing to note is her update she just put up:
"Does going red last ten minutes?" - No. It's actually an alignment hit, you can see your alignment as a bar under your stats. It's permanent until you raise your alignment again, for example by killing racial enemies. There is a temporary change when you HIT someone of your race (as opposed to kill him), i.e. you go rogue (grey) and you are KOS to the towns etc like a red, and if anyone kills you and they are the same race they get no alignment hit, but it's a brief, temporary status."
First point... Don't even HIT someone in a City, let alone kill them.
Second point...
Since the killing of your allies and same race is an alignment hit, and you can watch the movement on a bar in your stats. It should be a pretty easy thing to figure out how many "free" kills you can get without going into the "negative" and becoming a murderer.
I wouldn't advise doing it in a City though, but out in the Wilds... heh fair game.
I beat ya to the part in Blue lol. But yeah thats the way I was hoping it would be. Semi Permanent so you actually have to raise your alignment by killing enemie races to get back to the good. Its like a combined Faction and RvR system. Which for me is great, solve's a lot of problems I had with both individualy.
But it will actually increase the likely-hood of players killing their own race and allies when the situation arises.
Yes, there will probably be less "flagged" Murderers running around... but in my opinion there will actual be more murders taking place.
This is true, lol but that works in my favor. I am an Alfar in an ARAC clan. I should be able to keep from being a murderer durring fights for the simple fact I will more than likely be killing more Enemy races than my own race.
Was short but she talked about PvP so I'm a happy camper. Sounds like what I was hoping it would be like. So Oblivion style combat seems to be in lol, atleast Oblivionesque.
Was short but she talked about PvP so I'm a happy camper. Sounds like what I was hoping it would be like. So Oblivion style combat seems to be in lol, atleast Oblivionesque.
Why do we have to label everything like this?
"I’ll mention them here in no particular order but please take them with the benefit of doubt – they are purely personal impressions.
Speed of combat and twitch factor are more Oblivion than FPS: "
No we don't, but I was simply going by what the author of the review said.
I liked her post. Pretty funny. That screenie of that guy laying there with those arrows in his chest was kinda striking. You could clearly tell that guy was as dead as Julius Caesar. Pretty funny looking screenie.
he wasn't dead enough..
remember the gravestone like in cemetery?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I liked her post. Pretty funny. That screenie of that guy laying there with those arrows in his chest was kinda striking. You could clearly tell that guy was as dead as Julius Caesar. Pretty funny looking screenie.
he wasn't dead enough..
remember the gravestone like in cemetery?
He looked to be in the incompasitated stage where you have the option to finish them off or leave them to die/get raised.
Was short but she talked about PvP so I'm a happy camper. Sounds like what I was hoping it would be like.
Haha true, and the carebears and trolls thinks we defend Tasos, Aventurine or ganks. This is what we oldtimers crave for, this is what full-loot PvP do to you.
"and I realised that for the first time in many years my heart was actually beating faster while pvping in an MMO. I wanted to kill that guy dead!"
In a real PvP game this is the feeling you get while fighting or running away from a ganksquad. After the fight is over your hand are shaking from the adrenaline rush, and you probably have to take a few minutes rest. Even the boring PvE gets better because you have the feeling of danger. This is why we want full-loot PvP, and none of the new mmo`can deliver this danger.
Every fight in wow, lotr, aoc ,war or any other EQ clone are the same. There is no danger, no fear, no nerve. None of the pvp in those mmo`s matter, because you can`t change a thing in a themepark word. In AoC and War I even used PvP as a transport to get faster back to a city. Attack a player in those two games and hope he will be nice enough to kill you.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
"...trying different races (mahirims are awesome), exploring, and helping a clan of alfars with town construction."
Would have liked it if she had continued with this but she reads the forums (a mistake in this case lol) ..
However ..next one
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Game looks like doo doo. It's so obvious. Just look at the damned screenshots this "person" whoever it is, has released so far. They look like the most boring shit I've ever seen in regards to gameplay... and visually bad to boot. I'am also wondering WHY this person isn't taking actual video recording clips... even if they're only 10 seconds long to show some real gameplay... Guess Fraps is too hard to figure out.
Looks boring?
You have to tell me what game you are playing that make DF look boring...i would play any interesting game in a heartbeat!
Game looks like doo doo. It's so obvious. Just look at the damned screenshots this "person" whoever it is, has released so far. They look like the most boring shit I've ever seen in regards to gameplay... and visually bad to boot. I'am also wondering WHY this person isn't taking actual video recording clips... even if they're only 10 seconds long to show some real gameplay... Guess Fraps is too hard to figure out.
Looks boring?
You have to tell me what game you are playing that make DF look boring...i would play any interesting game in a heartbeat!
OMG Daarco, please tell me too. I have tried most mmo`s these last years and they are more boring than cleaning my appartment.
Please tell us your secret game because I really need a new mmo. Put your money where your mouth is and tell us what this exciting mmo is.
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The part in red kind of changes when you talk about DarkFall lol.
Anyone outside your faction is a potential threat. So you have that same sense of danger without having to be a murderer. The only thing you stand to gain in this case is less access........... and 0 allies outside those in your clan or flist.
I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out.
One other thing to note is her update she just put up:
"Does going red last ten minutes?" - No. It's actually an alignment hit, you can see your alignment as a bar under your stats. It's permanent until you raise your alignment again, for example by killing racial enemies. There is a temporary change when you HIT someone of your race (as opposed to kill him), i.e. you go rogue (grey) and you are KOS to the towns etc like a red, and if anyone kills you and they are the same race they get no alignment hit, but it's a brief, temporary status."
First point... Don't even HIT someone in a City, let alone kill them.
Second point...
Since the killing of your allies and same race is an alignment hit, and you can watch the movement on a bar in your stats. It should be a pretty easy thing to figure out how many "free" kills you can get without going into the "negative" and becoming a murderer.
I wouldn't advise doing it in a City though, but out in the Wilds... heh fair game.
I beat ya to the part in Blue lol. But yeah thats the way I was hoping it would be. Semi Permanent so you actually have to raise your alignment by killing enemie races to get back to the good. Its like a combined Faction and RvR system. Which for me is great, solve's a lot of problems I had with both individualy.
But it will actually increase the likely-hood of players killing their own race and allies when the situation arises.
Yes, there will probably be less "flagged" Murderers running around... but in my opinion there will actual be more murders taking place.
This is true, lol but that works in my favor. I am an Alfar in an ARAC clan. I should be able to keep from being a murderer durring fights for the simple fact I will more than likely be killing more Enemy races than my own race.
she stayed til 3 am to write a text with less than 500 words ? yea right
Why do we have to label everything like this?
Why do we have to label everything like this?
"I’ll mention them here in no particular order but please take them with the benefit of doubt – they are purely personal impressions.
Speed of combat and twitch factor are more Oblivion than FPS: "
No we don't, but I was simply going by what the author of the review said.
9 out of 10 optomistrists agree selective reading is bad for your debates.
"Usually I finish at 3 am."
I liked her post. Pretty funny.
That screenie of that guy laying there with those arrows in his chest was kinda striking.
You could clearly tell that guy was as dead as Julius Caesar. Pretty funny looking screenie.
"TO MICHAEL!"
he wasn't dead enough..
remember the gravestone like in cemetery?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
he wasn't dead enough..
remember the gravestone like in cemetery?
He looked to be in the incompasitated stage where you have the option to finish them off or leave them to die/get raised.
Haha true, and the carebears and trolls thinks we defend Tasos, Aventurine or ganks. This is what we oldtimers crave for, this is what full-loot PvP do to you.
"and I realised that for the first time in many years my heart was actually beating faster while pvping in an MMO. I wanted to kill that guy dead!"
In a real PvP game this is the feeling you get while fighting or running away from a ganksquad. After the fight is over your hand are shaking from the adrenaline rush, and you probably have to take a few minutes rest. Even the boring PvE gets better because you have the feeling of danger. This is why we want full-loot PvP, and none of the new mmo`can deliver this danger.
Every fight in wow, lotr, aoc ,war or any other EQ clone are the same. There is no danger, no fear, no nerve. None of the pvp in those mmo`s matter, because you can`t change a thing in a themepark word. In AoC and War I even used PvP as a transport to get faster back to a city. Attack a player in those two games and hope he will be nice enough to kill you.
good update....lots of good info and also a little minor bad stuff that she critiqued (lol if you think her reviews are biased /tinfoil)
for those who didn't notice, she updated the report to answer questions from the official boards.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
"...trying different races (mahirims are awesome), exploring, and helping a clan of alfars with town construction."
Would have liked it if she had continued with this but she reads the forums (a mistake in this case lol) ..
However ..next one
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Looks boring?
You have to tell me what game you are playing that make DF look boring...i would play any interesting game in a heartbeat!
Looks boring?
You have to tell me what game you are playing that make DF look boring...i would play any interesting game in a heartbeat!
OMG Daarco, please tell me too. I have tried most mmo`s these last years and they are more boring than cleaning my appartment.
Please tell us your secret game because I really need a new mmo. Put your money where your mouth is and tell us what this exciting mmo is.
Yes please tell, I am without a mmorpg to play as I was under the impression that all of them currently sucked.